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    Jammy Scouse cunts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonsky View Post
    That was brilliant. Feels like a completely different defence since van Dijk arrived, never imagined we’d get a clean sheet here.
    Given how the second half started, I'm still amazed they kept the clean sheet.

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    At half time I'd have put money on any other score than 3-0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    At half time I'd have put money on any other score than 3-0.
    Yep. And that's the kind of thing people say is beyond Klopp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Did you ever debate the relative merits of Ken Bates and Alan Sugar like you would be doing now?
    True, back then it was more innocent debates like Taricco v Melchiot.

    Anything off the field would have been filed under 'finances' and never spoken of again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    True, back then it was more innocent debates like Taricco v Melchiot.

    Anything off the field would have been filed under 'finances' and never spoken of again.
    Unless you're a Leeds fan then since 2003 it's all you ever speak of.

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    Liverpool aside, it's almost a shame in the fact that I'd have liked to see City up against a Madrid or Barcelona. I think they'd do better than against Liverpool, at least at Anfield.

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    Liverpool were definitely the worst side City could've drawn. Likewise Liverpool need to draw Bayern in the semis, who they will absolutely do over.

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    Speaking of football twitter, the power dynamics involved in Neil Custis calling James Richardson arrogant, and James Richardson then retweeting it, are absolutely sensational. I get very annoyed by both of them for different reasons but it feels like a watershed moment in the battle for cultural turf between the match going, working class old timers and the sofa-bound, middle class intelligentsia.

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    My thinking was that anybody who doesn't defend like total mongs could (and hopefully will) see Liverpool off in a semi-final, but those same teams might end up playing to City's strengths in a crabbing it about contest.

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    By the way Spoon, is that yodelling Walmart kid you?

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    ahhh

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    CSKA Moscow still fielding Ignasevich and the Berezutsky twins in defence is oddly comforting. Imagine they’ll be there for decades to come.

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    The CSKA defence have a total age of 108. We've put Cech in. I've gone hard on CSKA 2-1.

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    Don't worry about it lads. Ramsey has >18 months on his contract and refuses to sign another under Wenger. You won't have to worry about Arsenal having much about them for long.

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    Holy shit, CSKA still have the berezutski twins and ignashevic at back

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    Told you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    CSKA Moscow still fielding Ignasevich and the Berezutsky twins in defence is oddly comforting. Imagine they’ll be there for decades to come.
    Them and Akinfeev all started in the same game 12 years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Them and Akinfeev all started in the same game 12 years ago
    For context, Arsenal played Jens Lehmann, Gilberto Silva, Alexandr Hleb and Justin Hoyte that night.

    Not in defence I should add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    The CSKA defence have a total age of 108. We've put Cech in. I've gone hard on CSKA 2-1.


    Is it easy to keep making such a fool of yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post


    Is it easy to keep making such a fool of yourself?
    Am I that far off outside of overrating our incompetence in front of goal?

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    Shockingfayev is a garbage keeper. How was he so hought rated on FM? Woeful.

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    FUCK ME. THAT IS A FUCKING BEAUT.

    lol

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    There was five goals in that first half, but the referee has blown for half time on 45:00.

    How is that anything other than gross incompetence? What else is the fourth official doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Shockingfayev is a garbage keeper. How was he so hought rated on FM? Woeful.
    I don’t think I’d ever seen him play until the 2014 World Cup, so I was looking forward to a MONSTER performance from him...

    And it was the game against Korea when he let the ball through his hands, basically knocking Russia out in the process.

    So much of my teens wasted

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino View Post
    There was five goals in that first half, but the referee has blown for half time on 45:00.

    How is that anything other than gross incompetence? What else is the fourth official doing?
    Over 5.5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weaver View Post
    I don’t think I’d ever seen him play until the 2014 World Cup, so I was looking forward to a MONSTER performance from him...

    And it was the game against Korea when he let the ball through his hands, basically knocking Russia out in the process.

    So much of my teens wasted
    Wasn't it something like a decade without a clean sheet in Europe even prior to this?

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    That Ramsay goal was pretty tidy.

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    Arsene Wenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Arsene Wenger.
    If this all ends up in a final with Diego Costa getting MINDGAMED like the FA Cup and Wilshere scoring a winner he can have the job till he dies and then we can knock down Kikos flat and replace it with a Mausoleum for the big man.

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    Winning this should actually save his job. He doesn't need another contract, but it gives them a year to actually recruit properly rather than just taking whoever is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Winning this should actually save his job. He doesn't need another contract, but it gives them a year to actually recruit properly rather than just taking whoever is available.
    Hard disagree. What he's gained in tactical adaptiveness in the last few years he's fallen apart on buying players. I was 100% behind him right up until the year we bought Cech and no-one else. We've been close so many times but those times we had excuses whether it was injury/ego/lack of squad, the one time I felt we weren't financially limited he bottled it.

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    I meant recruiting his replacement. The league is off limits for the foreseeable, so just finish fifth and bank the Champions' League money for the next manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I meant recruiting his replacement. The league is off limits for the foreseeable, so just finish fifth and bank the Champions' League money for the next manager.
    What are the great managers that are going to be available next year? For all of the hipster journalists moaning about Pardew, Allardyce, Pulis and Moyes getting a job the only one's available that they rate are Tuchel, Conte, Sari and Enrique.

    A list that involves 2 managers involved in the second division until recently and a Barcelona binman.

    edit: Would take Conte. Just for the lols and his absolute pettiness at making sure we never lost to Chelsea ever again.

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    Somebody out of work this summer (Unai Emery, hair transplant, whoever) might want a trendy sabbatical.

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    What does being involved in the second division have to do with it? If they're good they're good. Wenger himself came from Japan.

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    Lazio will win it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    What does being involved in the second division have to do with it? If they're good they're good. Wenger himself came from Japan.
    Name a change of a manager that'd been there for >10 years that has resulted in an upturn in fortunes for the team. I'm 99% sure it'll go completely tits up, I'd rather it went tits up on someone I trusted. None of the current options, I do.

    Allegri's the closest I can think of but he was considered a joke at Milan which we're far more comparable to then a Juventus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Name a change of a manager that'd been there for >10 years that has resulted in an upturn in fortunes for the team. I'm 99% sure it'll go completely tits up, I'd rather it went tits up on someone I trusted. None of the current options, I do.

    Allegri's the closest I can think of but he was considered a joke at Milan which we're far more comparable to then a Juventus.
    Give me a list of recent managers who've stayed with a team for ten years and we'll see.

    What's the solution then? Just keep Wenger forever?

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    He should have gone after the 2nd FA Cup. You had a squad set for real things then. Now you just have a mish mash of random shit and anyone taking over from him can't impose a philosophy on them because of that and can't set them up tactically because they're not good enough from midfield back to do that either.

    Frankly I don't have a clue what you do outside of hope Wilshere, Ramsey and Reiss Nelson sign long term contracts and boot a good third of the squad to fit a way whoever you hire wants to play.

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    I hope Klopp’s still at Liverpool in ten years.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    Over 5.5?
    Surprisingly not, but it's definitely such situations that has made me aware of the phenomenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    What are the great managers that are going to be available next year? For all of the hipster journalists moaning about Pardew, Allardyce, Pulis and Moyes getting a job the only one's available that they rate are Tuchel, Conte, Sari and Enrique.

    A list that involves 2 managers involved in the second division until recently and a Barcelona binman.

    edit: Would take Conte. Just for the lols and his absolute pettiness at making sure we never lost to Chelsea ever again.
    Rodgers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino View Post
    Surprisingly not, but it's definitely such situations that has made me aware of the phenomenon.
    Not sure if it's still the case, but referees in Germany used to be ridiculously stingy with injury time. There was usually easy money to be made by lumping on at something like 1.05 when it was 89 minutes because a lot of the time, the ref would blow bang on 90.

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    It is worth mentioning that goals are not explicitly included in the FIFA rules regarding injury time:

    Quote Originally Posted by FIFA Law 7
    An allowance is made in either period for the time lost through:
    • substitutions
    • the assessment of players' injuries
    • the removal of injured players from the field of play for treatment
    • time-wasting
    • when the play is stopped for different reasons (e.g. critical weather conditions, goalpost broken, floodlights failure)

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    Interesting. I remember when we beat City with Owen's 97th minute goal, the media seemed to all agree that it was meant to be 30 seconds extra per goal.

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    I was wondering if that was the case. 30 seconds per goal is all I've ever heard cited as well, is that just nonsense?

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