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Thread: December: Rockin' around the Premier League

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    I'd love to know the reasoning for this confidence given your defence is as watertight as the Titanic.
    Got to stay positive haven’t you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Copium confirmed.
    His posting stopped having any basis in reality a while ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Come back to me with the medals.
    Plural?

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    I'm sorry but I'm absolutely not having a statistical method that suggests we should have more points than Villa.

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    I'd agree but it does have Tottenham in 10th so I have to say it has some validity.

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    "Juandy Carroll"

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    Man City playing a hard match in the Champions League challenge *impossible*

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    Must be the deadest round of CL knockouts in history.

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    Yes, awful draw. Inter v Atletico and Sociedad v PSG the only live games.

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    Fluminense currently trying to drag themselves past Al Ahly if anyone wants some competitive cup football. Zip zip at 54 minutes.

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    Who shows this?

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    It's on TNT over here.

    Both Felipe Melo and a very fat Marcelo are waddling around for 'Flu'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    It's on TNT over here.

    Both Felipe Melo and a very fat Marcelo are waddling around for 'Flu'.
    You forgot Ganso. Wasn't he supposed to be the next brazilian football deity or something along those lines?

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    The next Diego.

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    Now Porto are a disgrace of a team this season and he was up against a 40-year old Pepe but having just watched Gyokeres, fairplay Chelsea scouts.

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    I've always said if you can do it against Wigan you can do it against Porto.

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    Copium

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    The guy whos entire life is guided by spite and a massive inferiority complex? Cant imagine it.

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    Why's phonics talking in the third person?

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    Jose dialling in for John Obi Mikel's podcast after all these years I find kind of touching.

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    Mourinho's always been such a conundrum of a person. He's clearly an absolute legend, particularly as a bit of an outsider in football, in terms of looking after people/being loyal/whatever you want to call it and probably just being a good guy generally, but then, via his persona, he comes across as a monumental bellend a lot of the time.

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    I think it says a lot by how much the players seemingly love him afterwards and those still want to play for him again after. He is a knob in public though.

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    A lot of his antics are aimed at making himself the story/focus, and taking the heat off his players. By the most generous possible reading, it's actually hugely reputationally selfless behaviour.

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    Under the protocol, referees will halt play when a player with a suspected injury remains down on the field of play for 15 seconds or more.

    The player in question will then be removed from the field for further treatment on the sidelines, for a period of at least two minutes before being permitted to return.
    Another new measure approved Thursday will force substituted players to exit the field of play within 10 seconds.

    Failure to leave within the 10-second limit will force the substitute coming onto the pitch to wait 60 seconds, meaning the team making the change will be temporarily down a player.

    The only exceptions to the rule will involve substitutions forced by injury, or goalkeeper substitutions.
    This is the new MLS rules. Interesting. They reckon the trial in the junior/reserve league worked well. But the injury loophole seems too easy, especially if referees continue to be fooled by players rolling around like dickheads.

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    Two minutes is at least an attempt at a deterrent. I'd make it five.

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    I like that sub rule. We've got it so subs can be told to just get off the pitch wherever they are but it seems to be selectively applied still.

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    Kuala Lumpur: Match officials at the AFC Asian Cup Qatar 2023™ will be able to enhance their decision-making process with the Semi-Automated Offside Technology (SAOT)

    It will be implemented at all 51 matches of the tournament, making AFC the first Confederation to apply the system at the Continental men’s national team level!
    Great, perhaps.

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    As soon as the numbers board goes up, blow the whistle to get play underway.

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    Pochettino has one of the worlds most gifted footballers running about more than Conor Gallagher and taking less touches

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    You'd imagine that the worlds most gifted footballer could rack up 15 wins in 18 months.

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    World Cup will do.

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    Lopetegui fell through so Forest are going for Nuno? Fuck me, just keep Cooper instead of these mediocre foreign names, you ain't going down.

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    I came here to post pretty much exactly this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Lopetegui fell through so Forest are going for Nuno? Fuck me, just keep Cooper instead of these mediocre foreign names, you ain't going down.
    What an odd decision. There's no way there's not better available than Nuno. The guy is a complete fraud.

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    Nuno is so shit. Why do this?

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    Utd to poach Ashworth from Newcastle.

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    That’s very good news until you realise that means Graham Potter taking over

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    Oh no, not the greatest English mind in the history of the sport.

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    Hard fail.

    United aren't going to stats spaz their way out of their current predicament, much like Liverpool didn't. It doesn't work like that.

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    Liverpool sort of did initially under Comolli, but it only gets you so far.

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    Stats relate to when Comolli left in April 2012, and I guess he was the DoF under Dalglish [apparently he was there for 13 months]. 11 signings.

    1 Andy Carroll, (22 when he signed on 31 Jan 11): £35m, 49 total appearances, 10 goals
    2 Luis Suárez (24 on 31/1/11): £22.7m, 46, 17
    3 Jordan Henderson (20 on 9/6/11): £20m, 41, 1
    4 Charlie Adam (25 on 8/7/11): £8.5m, 35, 2
    5 Stewart Downing (26 on 9/7/11): £20m, 39, 2
    6 Doni (31 on 15/7/11): free, 2, 0
    7 José Enrique (25 on 12/8/11): £7m, 39, 0
    8 Sebastián Coates (20 on 30/8/11): £7m, 10, 1
    9 Craig Bellamy (32 on 31/8/11): free, 32, 9
    10 Jordan Ibe (16 on 12/12/11): £500k, 0, 0
    11 Danny Ward (18 on 30/1/12): £100k, 0, 0

    Couple of decent signings there, and a couple turned for profit, I guess. Not sure what strategic direction he provided. Laid the foundations under FSG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post


    Hard fail.

    United aren't going to stats spaz their way out of their current predicament, much like Liverpool didn't. It doesn't work like that.
    Well I'm sure the approach of just letting the latest manager sign players they know isn't going to get any better so let's see what happens with a bit of a modern day setup.

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    What is "stats spazzing"?

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    Liverpool went through that phase with Rodgers, yielding greats like Joe Allen and Fabio Borini. Most managers love to sign their former players, for better or worse. What you need, although it is obviously quite a challenge, is a manager who can identify with the core of the club, identify with the fanbase, and provide overall leadership and direction that everyone believes in. I guess for United that is likely going to have to be someone in the Ferguson mould, an aggressive winner. Smaller ships can be turned around with mild mannered reasonableness, but Potter will be no better than Ten Hag, save for perhaps not being as liable to buy his former players, although beware the Chelsea sales!

    Superstar behind the scenes guys are almost always one hit wonders, as if it takes some sort of genius level intellect to be a Dan Ashworth of Michael Edwards. That sort of stuff is about gaming the system at a lower level though, mostly.

    I suppose having some sort of structure is better than whatever is there at the moment, but I don't see why the implementation of that would necessitate a managerial change, particularly not a majorly sideways one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Stats relate to when Comolli left in April 2012, and I guess he was the DoF under Dalglish [apparently he was there for 13 months]. 11 signings.

    1 Andy Carroll, (22 when he signed on 31 Jan 11): £35m, 49 total appearances, 10 goals
    2 Luis Suárez (24 on 31/1/11): £22.7m, 46, 17
    3 Jordan Henderson (20 on 9/6/11): £20m, 41, 1
    4 Charlie Adam (25 on 8/7/11): £8.5m, 35, 2
    5 Stewart Downing (26 on 9/7/11): £20m, 39, 2
    6 Doni (31 on 15/7/11): free, 2, 0
    7 José Enrique (25 on 12/8/11): £7m, 39, 0
    8 Sebastián Coates (20 on 30/8/11): £7m, 10, 1
    9 Craig Bellamy (32 on 31/8/11): free, 32, 9
    10 Jordan Ibe (16 on 12/12/11): £500k, 0, 0
    11 Danny Ward (18 on 30/1/12): £100k, 0, 0

    Couple of decent signings there, and a couple turned for profit, I guess. Not sure what strategic direction he provided. Laid the foundations under FSG.
    Didn't he bring in all the backroom stats wankers that underscored the subsequent success? I could be wrong.

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    Regardless of whether he did or not, the lapse of time probably makes the boot room of the 80s about as relevant, anyone who thinks that is what got Liverpool to where they are now is entirely out of their mind. Liverpool certainly struck gold with some transfers, but they struck bigger gold with their manager, unless the stats wankers get credit for that as well. In which case, I guess all decisions good or bad are attributable to the ebbing tide of statistical analysis. All hail the byline cutback.

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    I was giving him credit for getting you from Roy Hodgson to not a complete shambles, I'm not saying he personally performed Jurgen Klopp's tooth job.

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    In that case, are there any extant United legend's to take up the reigns in January? Get Fergie back?

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    Potter. For about 7 months. Then Solskjaer again.

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    Steve Bruce.

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    Giggs to Vince McMahon it back in through the Old Trafford front door, wearing a suit with the words "not guilty" written into his suit.

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