May will get a (shit) deal through unless there is more defection DRAMA or the parliamentary arithmetic changes for some other reason.
Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman
May will get a (shit) deal through unless there is more defection DRAMA or the parliamentary arithmetic changes for some other reason.
I've had that meeting with the British Embassy on what my rights are going to be delayed 3 times since I moaned about it. Whatever this deal is, it's absolutely mental to me that it seems that after being absolutely desperate to put this deadline on it for political reasons/a really shit hardball tactic. At least 90% of the system has literally no idea what it means if it does pass and even less clue if it doesn't.
I live in Switzerland making it twice as complicated as I have no idea whether literally any of the bilateral stuff in the Swiss-EU deal is even applicable in this deal. If it doesn't the Student Loan Company can chase me down.
Going back through the thread, I said they should have chucked her as soon as they agreed to that 'backstop' disgrace, so I think that that officially makes me and space cadet Andrew Lilico the toppest Brexit lads.
I remember you giving May a fewOriginally Posted by Lewis
's back in the day which, no matter the time period, renders any of that void. Like when GS said Cameron was one of the greatest PM's of all time, there's just no coming back.
Her various big Brexit speeches were all sound. As with Gordon Brown, the full details (not even that, since there will be loads of lol shit in the inner circle memoirs to come) of what a complete and utter mong she is have emerged too late. The most pathetic election campaign in history should have been a clue, but I was too busy getting high on the Williamites coming to the rescue.
The po-lice have been consistently hating her since 2010, so it's nice to see the British Bobby (and their slightly unsettling Twitter community) proven right again.
Reading this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_O...er_Theresa_May
I'm not sure I could find a single thing in there that would be described as popular outside of deporting Abu Qatada.
How would you guys deal with the Irish border, out of curiosity?
It is typical that you spent decades solving that whole situation, and now look like you might unsolve it again.
I stand by my 'just leave and do nothing about the border' argument. Just leave it open. Let the EU fuck about with it if they want a hot potato.
Irish unification.
Thankfully any such notion would be shut down from the Irish side, on the unlikely chance it had legs on the Northern Irish side.
The best way is a hard border. Just like that have all over the world.
I always assumed a national poll on the whole island would break largely on religious lines, would that not be the case?
It's modern times. People are all too aware of how much of a money sink that NI is and how bereft of industry it is. There's also the matter of how much of our own heritage that would need to be given up to accommodate loyalists (or try to - you'd never be able to really) and you'd basically be starting all over again. Romantic notions are dying and people realise they are happy with the Ireland they have for the most part.
Even in NI, you'd be surprised at how many Catholic 'nationalists' would vote to stay in the Union once they seen how it would hit their bank balances.
A border with quick crossing for anyone with a UK or Republic passport would possibly work.
In December 2016 RTE's Claire Byrne Live/ Amárach Research panel asked 'Is it time for a united Ireland?' Forty-six percent of those asked said yes while 32% said no and 22% said that they didn't know,. Support was highest among those aged 25–34 with 54% saying yes.[86]
From here - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Ireland
And as to the point about Catholics in NI voting for the union because they're materially better off in it, while that might have been true before, it won't be after Brexit.
Wait until an actual campaign starts if there was to be an actual vote. That 32% would be 60 after a week once a few truths arrive.
It would be pretty lol if the war kicked off again because both sides - understandably - don't want the gaff.
If Northern Ireland wants to join the Irish then whatever. I like to consider myself pretty STAUNCH, but you can't stop them, and keeping them sweet isn't worth remaining in the European Union.
We want to stick a normal border up and start doing everything we can to undercut the Irish economy.
Isn't that just creating a decent stout that costs less than a tenner?
Can you be a 'staunch' anything other than socialist or unionist?
Socialists tend to be 'proud' these days, as if they have achieved something, like Roddy Piper in They Live but with Zionists.
If someone was described as a 'staunch' conservative, I would immediately peg them as a member of an old wealthy family, but not the main heir. So they had to go out and get one of their parent's mates to give them a pointless position in an investment firm where they knock around for 20 years coining money, before getting out, going into politics, and launching into spirited defences of the aristocratic system at any opportunity. A conservative who values tradition even over "principle", if you will.
I rarely talk politics on here because I think I'd just find it frustrating and upsetting as I like and respect most of the right-wing people on here, and you're better at debating things than me, but I'm finding politics quite depressing at the moment.
It's not so much the right-wing establishment attacking Corbyn cus like, that's what they're supposed to do. It's the mad Blairite dinosaurs. Ages ago now obviously, but I saw a clickbaity article in the fucking NEW STATESMAN about Corbz looking SCRUFFY AND DISHEVELED in his raincoat at the cenotaph. Like, what the fuck are you up to lads? What are you actually hoping to achieve?
And the fucking centrist liberal celeb elite, fuck sake. I mean there is the possibility that Jeremy Corbyn really is a Jew hating danger to our country and I'm just a total idiot, but for now I'm sticking with my opinion that the likes of Richard Osman and J K Rowling are total fucking dunces.
We really need someone quite radical to come along and shake things up. I don't mean radical in the sense of nationalising paperclips and the other dreary 100 year old ideas put forward by Corbyn's drab-left position, I mean someone to actually chuck some middle fingers around and do something maverick that no one has thought of yet.
Someone will come along when we're least expecting it.
Not the old or the new but some kind of....third way.
Like what exactly?
'that no one has thought of yet'
Atheist.
Im a dirt bag lefty these days. The right are too far gone with religion and syphoning off tax payers money. PNG is currently laundering billions of our money through our off shore detention scam.
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The Aussie right is as mental as the US Right, so you don't really have much of an option.
Willing to die on a hill that defends a convicted pedo is worse than the US surely?
Do you think Trump would be evicted from the White House if they found out he was a nonce? I reckon he'd survive a fucking nuclear winter at this point.
Yeah true. Our right wing nutters really are in the minority over here.
The Aussies really get a poor choice with their politics, with the added kicker they have to choose them all the time.
Institutionalised corruption, or, well, the other side.
Or, I suppose, the Nick Xenephon "What have you got for South Australia?" Independent mob. Is he still going?
Nah he went balls deep on his own brand for a SA state election and got lolled out.
The Greens are the only choice for me at the next election.
The time is right for a 'Big Mal' comeback. Revving up the boys in Canberra, flushing out the dickheads.
I saw Mal at servo on the way up the coast and fuck me he is such an intimidating bloke.
Exactly. He has unfinished business in politics. First order of business, lay Glenn Lazarus out.
Lazo is long gone from politics after it was revealed that he cant spell his own name.
Is Clive Palmer still hovering? He's getting king hit if so.
I should have acknowledged that part. Throw some ideas out at least. Stick an AI in charge?
REAL centrism. More money for Our NHS. Less oxygen for paedophiles.
Yep. Im pretty sure he running candidates in every state. Robo texting and robo dialling his way to another defeat.
I dunno. Give babies the vote? Create 10,000 new bus routes? Ban wine? Your guess is as good as mine.
I should have acknowledged that part. Throw some ideas out at least. Stick an AI in charge?
The bloke policy wise is a traditional gop Republican so not sure that counts.
The McD buffet (that he paid for) was something no one had thought of before.
The New York Times did a piece of Grayling that ended with this correction
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/03/world/europe/grayling-ferries-uk.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimesCorrection: March 3, 2019Because of an editing error, an earlier version of this article misstated the amount that a Labour Party’s report claimed Chris Grayling misadventures had cost British taxpayers. It is 2.7 billion pounds, not 2.7 million.
Also this quote is just absolutely damning of modern politics
Look he might be shit at his job but at least he doesn't have opinions on it.“The lot of Brexiteers who are willing to work with Theresa May and aren’t bonkers is quite small,” said Rob Ford, a politics professor at the University of Manchester. “And one can argue he’s incompetent, but he’s not a flaming ideologue.”
Single-handedly?
Tim Montgomerie is such a twat. He would have been lolled out of the party during the Glory Years.
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