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    I interviewed for a nuclear policy job in 2019 and said that, should we choose to keep pretending that we're a credible nuclear power, we needed more warheads to do it (my number was 'closer to three-hundred', and twice that if you want to hassle China). I got the same 'What about the Non-Proliferation Treaty?' response off them that all of the anti-nuclear campaigners are coming out with, but all that does is commit you to thinking about talking about things. If it wasn't meaningless nobody would have signed it.

    Not that it will happen. We'll have at least two more strategic reviews in the next decade, and each of them will scale the numbers back, so they will suddenly decide in around 2029 that the current number is exactly right.

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    What makes a country a credible nuclear power?

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    To be honest, the only nuclear powers I fear are the ones just mental enough to drop one. Ahmedinejad's Iran, North Korea and that's it. Even then, I only worried the former might drop one on Israel whilst the latter might drop on in the sea off South Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    And fucking hell, we really are an unbelievable species.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-56411157
    These developing countries are 2000 years behind the western world. Absolutely barbaric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post
    What makes a country a credible nuclear power?
    It means being capable of actually using what you have for what you want to use it for - so if North Korea wants them to directly threaten the Americans then they aren't, because their delivery systems are shit, but if they want them to hold off an invasion then maybe they are.

    For decades our deterrent policy was based on the 'Moscow Criterion', which is the idea that if one submarine can flatten Moscow then the Soviet Union/Russia will at least think twice about pushing us to the brink (hence always having one chugging around out there). You could definitely flatten Moscow with one submarine, but the thinking behind it was that Moscow was of absolute importance to them because it contained ninety per cent of all the decision-making centres etc., which isn't really applicable to China, so a comparable policy aimed towards deterring them would need to be able to scrub about ten cities.

    With that in mind, this can't really be aimed at China, and it's not really adding anything to whatever Russian policies currently exist (getting new tactical munitions might if NATO wants to Europeanise a bit), which is why it sounds like a wheeze to avoid any further reductions.
    Last edited by Lewis; 16-03-2021 at 07:01 PM.

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    The UK doesn't need more warheads. In terms of nuclear deterrence, the UK is basically an exclave of the US, so you can count our WMDs to your total. You should instead prioritize things you have a comparative advantage at, such as Stilton cheese

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    What if we want to bomb Spain and you don't?

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    Mobilise ETA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    The UK doesn't need more warheads. In terms of nuclear deterrence, the UK is basically an exclave of the US, so you can count our WMDs to your total. You should instead prioritize things you have a comparative advantage at, such as Stilton cheese
    The US just elected a Pro-EU candidate with significant Irish-American donors and a history of not being massively fond of the UK.

    The US also has a history of not being particularly quick to back us in war. ~3 years late to both World Wars and opposed to the Falkland War all together.

    We're just another military base to them.
    Last edited by Spikey M; 16-03-2021 at 09:16 PM.

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    I was having a real grim day but this piece on Syrian war victims on BBC news has really sorted me out. Properly brutal stuff, the sort you wonder how it even got allowed to air on the news. Get it watched on iplayer if you missed it, first 10 mins of the news. God bless perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    The US just elected a Pro-EU candidate with significant Irish-American donors and a history of not being massively fond of the UK.

    The US also has a history of not being particularly quick to back us in war. ~3 years late to both World Wars and opposed to the Falkland War all together.

    We're just another military base to them.
    If someone nuked a military base of ours we’d be in it to win it

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    How interesting.

    In New Zealand’s Southern Alps, braided rivers radiate turquoise from the glacial flows coming off snow-capped mountains. Breathtaking vistas like these have provided the backdrop for Hollywood epics like Lord of the Rings and underpin one of the world’s most recognised tourism campaigns, “100% Pure New Zealand”.

    But behind New Zealand’s clean and green image is a dirty truth — its freshwater rivers are among the most polluted in the developed world. Last year, a government report found nearly 60 per cent of the country’s rivers carry pollution above acceptable levels, with 95 to 99 per cent of rivers in pastoral, urban and non-native forested areas contaminated
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-...&sf243960431=1

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    Probably explains the stunted growth of Hobbits.

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...658.html%3famp

    UN Women: COVID-19 is `most discriminatory crisis' for women

    The bandwagon is on the move.

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    From what I've witnessed it's true that women are bearing the brunt of it. I work with 4 women with children. All of them have been looking after the kids at home whilst working. Myself and the other 2 dad's tend not to have to (thank fuck).

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    I've seen it the other way round where two fellas in my office asked to go on furlough as their wives also worked and they were struggling with childcare.

    There are struggles on both sides of the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    If someone nuked a military base of ours we’d be in it to win it
    That will be a crumb of comfort to western europe during the ensuing nuclear winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Probably explains the stunted growth of Hobbits.
    Only explanation of their under 18s.

    Edit: I have a massive chip so I have to dig in when possuble.
    Last edited by Queenslander; 17-03-2021 at 10:07 AM.

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    Doesn't it kill 2 men to every 1 woman?

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    Imagine voting for the Liberal Party.

    Australia accused of flouting international obligations over child's 'disturbing' deportation to New Zealand
    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australi...to-new-zealand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    That will be a crumb of comfort to western europe during the ensuing nuclear winter.
    Yeah, well, that wouldn’t happen, because nuking Europe would be akin to nuking Philadelphia.

    You can count on us

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-56438842

    I swear a Tokyo Olympics official resigns over something or other almost every week, but this is the best yet. I can only assume the brilliance of the gag was lost in translation.

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    Can they get Beat Takeshi to introduce an obstacle course during the marathon?

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    Japan rules!

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...boyfriend.html

    Is this bad because a woman was killed, or good because a nonce was killed?

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    How come we knew about these women being under a patio in Dundee considerably ahead of the beeb?

    Or is their most recent story about it just a cobbling of older stuff?

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    Because we have Waff, our man on the street / because dead women are fashionable again.

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    Mr Henderson said: "Many women have to get up early hours and go to work and they are fearful of coming out of their street and putting their key in their car door.
    You could probably pick a better example than someone with their own transport.

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    Aussie! Aussie! Aussie!


    The federal opposition says farm workers need to be guaranteed a minimum wage if they are paid according to how much produce they pick.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-...&sf244077281=1

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    I like how even the most prestigious of investment banking environments isn't safe from the soft shite brigade these days.

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    Joining GS and then complaining over sub 100 hour weeks. Like fuck are you actually leaving if you went through all the bullshit to get there. You'll get a nice substance addiction, shorten your lifespan 5 years, and rake in more cash in bonuses than the average person makes in a year, it's all upside.
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    If they're anything like actual GS they'll settle for ninety-seven hour weeks.

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    I still don't believe that people actually work those hours. I think that they are full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    I still don't believe that people actually work those hours. I think that they are full of shit.
    100%.

    There is an incredible amount of people over here that ignore a normal work life balance as though its some sort of badge of honour but thats just got to be bullshit

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    It's easy to do those kind of hours when you're just sitting in conference calls not actually doing shit.

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    Or travel, assuming they can still run that racket in a pandemic.

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    It's easy to work those hours when you're working in live deal environments. Just because they are at Goldman, it doesn't mean you should expect to have zero sleep. Just hire a few more grads.

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    What an egg.

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    Does he think his own subtitle is deeply ironic rather than actually true or does he just have an unusual level of self awareness for his sort?

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    https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-annual-report

    Thank goodness everybody's got their priorities right.

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    There really are some absolute morons who become MPs.

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    At least you dont have a bunch of rapists running up and down the halls.

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    Sounds like somebody doesn't love The Flag enough, traitor.

    EDIT: Out the way, QL.

    Also: what?

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    Would any non-moron want to be an MP?

    Worse than MP's, are Councillors. I used to work with this cunt.

    I still have him on Facebook, asking his 'friends' why THIS CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT is not prioritising things he personally likes.

    Give us a fucking dictator.

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    "Thankyou to the resident who brought to my notice the state of the pavement outside 1 Cliffsea Grove (The Priest's House at Our Lady Of Lourdes Roman Catholic Church.)

    This has been reported to the Highways Team, who will inspect the site within 24 hours, and I will report back to you on how they get on."

    A modern day hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Sounds like somebody doesn't love The Flag enough, traitor.

    EDIT: Out the way, QL.

    Also: what?
    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...dured-by-women

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