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    Where are all those vaccines you promised us years ago 7om? Have you cured everything yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browning View Post
    Where are all those vaccines you promised us years ago 7om? Have you cured everything yet?
    Two of the projects I was on are in clinical trials now, so that's nice. I left the company though. I'm in medical school now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    The Niko article

    Pull up the pages of the thread where we discussed the Bournemouth/Sydney/etc beach pics and publically humiliate every cretin that said a bad word about man enjoying mother nature in the most natural of acts.

    My short and long-term recall is fully burned out thanks to this so I will be sweating I am not one of said cretins.
    Sounds like long covid.

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    Let's not scaremonger, I'm hoping it's just as a result of the unrelenting nature of the disgusting routine alongside the daily screen time averaging approximately 34.5 hours and the constant information consumption that brings with it.

    I'm pinning a lot of my hopes on the sun.

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    No outdoor meeting up until Easter, says the Sun. Absolutely ridiculous approach.

    I mean I've still been going to the office all year ffs.

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    It'll take years for covid to slink into the background.

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    I wish those bookshelves would fall on her.

    'The Science', having spent months saying that vaccines are the way out, have now shifted to being basically anti-vaxxers, constantly downplaying the effects of vaccines.

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    There's that line again, "nobody wants another national lockdown" we're in one FFS.

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    On the vaccine point, I'm also starting to wonder what discernable difference there would be in the approach THE SCIENCE would love to follow in easing restrictions if we hadn't vaccinated anyone. I'm struggling to see any.

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    No vaccines / no hope of vaccines now is an interesting counterfactual. Aside from the smallish vaccine effect being seen particularly in the deaths data in the last week or so (this will now accelerate through the next week), everything else would be basically the same until now, so I think if anything the unlocking prospects would be much worse. They'd fully embrace the zero-covid bollocks and look to go full Australia, but from a terrible starting point. Lockdown would go on more or less forever until transmission hit 0, and Sunak would just have to do a colossal rolling bailout for various industries and bankrupt us forever. In that scenario I think people's resolve would actually break a bit (eventually).

    I am sensing resolve breaking a bit now, though, whatever the polling numbers say. Everyone in the office at work is at the end of their tether. Maybe that's a self-selecting sample who all share the life-draining trait of coming to the office and doing nothing else, but I don't know. It feels different.

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    Resolve is definitely breaking and I don't know what that lunatic is doing saying people are following the rules well, as they were last year. They're not and it's been slowly getting worse.

    A friend of mine offered to bring his own cutlery round when he visited my garden last year (when he was allowed to), fast forward 6 months and he has no intention of not coming round again before it's probably allowed in May, let alone bringing his own knife and fork.

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    Man I read that 3 times and still don’t get it

    His resolve to follow the rules is breaking so now he’s not coming over again ?

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    Yeah, however well people have been sticking to not having people in their house, anyone liable to go and meet somebody for a walk has never stopped doing so. What a genuinely mental attempt at a concession that is. Why don't they just say we can't do anything until we see what happens after schools go back instead of that wank?

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    His resolve is breaking so he's probably up for coming over prior to May even if the rules don't allow it by then.

    I did word it in a piss poor way though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Yeah, however well people have been sticking to not having people in their house, anyone liable to go and meet somebody for a walk has never stopped doing so. What a genuinely mental attempt at a concession that is. Why don't they just say we can't do anything until we see what happens after schools go back instead of that wank?
    I can only assume they're absolute loving being front and centre and the power has gone to their heads. Which is a problem with human nature, no matter what game you're in or how well your intentions were when you started said game.

    The way she's coming across is batshit, of course the government should be listening to what the scientists are saying, but they've far more to take on board than that alone, so blindly following what they say is moronic. It'd be like letting the specialist department of a business completely direct the strategy for everything else. No one works in that way and a government sure as shit shouldn't.

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    If there was no vaccine / no hope of a vaccine the decision would come down to either Zero Covid or Herd Immunity.

    Zero Covid without vaccines would mean decades of lockdowns and restrictions on international travel, so Herd immunity would be the answer and we'd probably all be on the Rameses Revenge with our nans as we speak.

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    Isn't the issue that vaccines take time to give and then to become effective? It is probably just a mental expectation that you had jab = immediate restriction lift. Unfortunately if there's a 3 month period from jab to completion then you need to hold the course or the effectiveness of the vaccine is at risk.

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    Seen some interesting stuff about how lockdown fatigue may well be setting in now, certainly among the under 40s, social interactions seem to have ticked up in the last week by whatever means they measure that. I'm not sure what happened but I just sensed a quite sudden change both in my own mood and of those around me about a week - 10 days ago. If cases stay steady as a result then it will be interesting to see the government response. Lockdown, of course, only exists by consent - there are no cops forcing us into our homes at gunpoint like there were in China.

    And on that note, I'm meeting a mate for a 'walk' this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Isn't the issue that vaccines take time to give and then to become effective? It is probably just a mental expectation that you had jab = immediate restriction lift. Unfortunately if there's a 3 month period from jab to completion then you need to hold the course or the effectiveness of the vaccine is at risk.
    That and we've bet big on the vaccine that showed the least effectiveness (aside from China's 49% horror show) in clinical trials. Moderna's and Pfizers showed up great against variants, AstraZeneca's didn't.

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    Has the roadmap leaked yet?
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    That and we've bet big on the vaccine that showed the least effectiveness (aside from China's 49% horror show) in clinical trials. Moderna's and Pfizers showed up great against variants, AstraZeneca's didn't.
    What’s the 49%? The sinopharm vaccine actually has very strong data supporting it.

    Regarding the variants, we only have data on mild-moderate disease right now. The prediction is that the AstraZeneca vaccine will have >80% protection against severe disease. The Janssen vaccine showed good effectiveness and the AstraZeneca uses the same technology.

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    There was a report a couple of months back about a Chinese jab hitting 49% but I don't know if that was another one they had in development. As for lockdown easing, it begins on 8th March with allowing care home residents one visitor.

    They will be able to meet indoors and hold hands - but visitors must wear PPE and be tested before entering the home.
    Which is fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Has the roadmap leaked yet?

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    That list

    Testing centres will go up in flames and I will bask in the warmth.

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    Another month down the drain.

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    Booked in for dose 2 of the Pfizer jab Wednesday.

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    You're still watching people die for a living.

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    We went to see the (already vaccinated) in laws in their garden earlier, then went for a walk with the wife's (already had Covid) Uncle.

    Crime really is very satisfying. Might go shop lifting in a bit.

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    God it's glorious getting out and meeting someone. Walked around the cricket ground about 6 times with my mate, like visiting another universe.

    I don't understand why they have to get all kids back indoors at the same time (can you not do 2/3 days a week each year group or something so you get the educational/mental benefits for the kids, but have half the numbers on site at once?), but completely harmless outdoor activities are still going to be banned for weeks.

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    Something tells me we'll be mass vaccinating the kids at some point anyway.

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    My personal prediction is that it will be touch-n-go on whether kids will be vaccinated this year. I’d wager vulnerable kids might get it but your average snot nosed 9 year old? Doubtful.

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    Has any non-vulnerable kid become seriously ill or died from it? I mean, I'm sure one has somewhere, but it must be vanishingly rare.

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    If stopping mutations is a real ambition then it would make sense to vaccinate kids too.

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    Great news everyone:

    Toggle Spoiler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    God it's glorious getting out and meeting someone. Walked around the cricket ground about 6 times with my mate, like visiting another universe.

    I don't understand why they have to get all kids back indoors at the same time (can you not do 2/3 days a week each year group or something so you get the educational/mental benefits for the kids, but have half the numbers on site at once?), but completely harmless outdoor activities are still going to be banned for weeks.
    It's pretty mental that that is illegal in England. We kept being allowed to meet one person from another household for exercise outside.

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    No we can do what I did. You just can't sit down on a park bench, or take your golf clubs, or your tennis racket.

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    You can only do what you did if you live on your own and don't meet up with anyone else. Your mate has to be your bubble now and we will be checking up on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Has any non-vulnerable kid become seriously ill or died from it? I mean, I'm sure one has somewhere, but it must be vanishingly rare.
    There was that acute inflammatory response that a few hundred kids suffered from. I remember because the news absolutely shit their pants about it, despite it being incredibly rare.

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    I just played 4 a side football next to a main road and there were zero fucks given by anyone. Glorious.

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    How many people went home and Tweeted/Facebooked in outrage, though? That's the real quiz.

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    They've been playing tennis locally here for weeks. All three courts were occupied today and Sturgeon did nothing.

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    TTH descending into anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    They've been playing tennis locally here for weeks. All three courts were occupied today and Sturgeon did nothing.
    Probably because it has a sufficiently European heritage.

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    They might be elite athletes in training. Who knows how much of the ITF rankings is clogged with useless Brits?

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    If they're elite, I'm elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    And on that note, I'm meeting a mate for a 'walk' this morning.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    God it's glorious getting out and meeting someone. Walked around the cricket ground about 6 times with my mate, like visiting another universe.

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    I just picture you saying that to someone who's won 14 Wheelchair Grand Slams.

    EDIT: LEWIS. NO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Probably because it has a sufficiently European heritage.
    She'll probably ban the one true Scottish game until the EU have caught up on the vaccines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    TTH descending into anarchy.
    Get Carpe Diem back so he can instruct us to stick chewing gum on traffic light buttons again.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    You're still watching people die for a living.
    I work in paeds. My patients almost never die.

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