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    Since ive been watching the sport. I dont think ive ever seen a young driver in the Ferrari seat full time who is under the age of 30 and never won an F1 race before he got there.

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    Felipe Massa and Jean Alesi are the only ones I can think of. Ah, Barrichello.

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    I think we’re being a tad unfair on Sauber atm - they have been largely excellent this season with the new Ferrari partnership. Even carthorse extraordinaire Ericsson’s got a point or two. I think that car with be up there with Haas next year if the strength of the Ferrari link endures. Can see Kimi having some epic upper-midfield battles. Plus, what he’ll bring by way of expertise is hard to put a value on, especially as that expertise will continue to feed into Ferrari via Sauber.

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    I think Kimi secretly really loves it. Remember he had that mini-retirement before and he's been back almost ten years.

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    I can't imagine Kimi having a long chat with his engineers about oversteer.

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    He also doesn't seem particularly fast these days but if he has Ericsson as a team mate I don't suppose it will really matter.

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    Didn't he literally just break the F1 track record at Monza?

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    Someone had to.

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    The other wrinkle is how keen he'll be to compromise his performance in the remaining races should the team need him to help Vettel. What can they do if he says no, phone up Luca Badoer again?

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    They have Mika Salo behind a glass case for emergencies.

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    I did not see that coming.

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    Oooh. Verstappen on the front row since ... his pole?

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    How has that even happened? I've been following the times from practice and Ferrari have been about half a second ahead all weekend.

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    He'll be slower to the first corner too, so could slow down Vettel behind. If only the Red Bull could find a decent engine.

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    At the risk of Giggles calling me a fanboy again, that was a ridiculous lap from Hamilton. Proper title winning stuff over the last three races, he's making Vettel look seriously second rate at places where the Ferrari has been the stronger car.

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    Yeah, that was a triffic lap.

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    Ferrari's strategy here.

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    He needed to be past Perez instantly for that to have worked, he'd have been chasing Hamilton in a faster car with faster tyres.

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    Perez can get fucked for that.

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    Perez is such a nob.

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    Slightly surprised the lesser spotted drapeau noir didn't come out for him earlier.

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    That was shit.

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    It's pretty impressive how 'Lewis' seems to have found another level once he had to (unless he has simply not shat the bed like Ferrari), although it begs the question how he let that pleb have one of the titles at Mercedes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    It's pretty impressive how 'Lewis' seems to have found another level once he had to (unless he has simply not shat the bed like Ferrari), although it begs the question how he let that pleb have one of the titles at Mercedes.
    That season came down to Hamilton having an extra DNF on Rosberg. He was better when they were both on track.

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    Rosberg mindgamed him perfectly that year and had better reliability. The one he lobbed away in 2007 was worse even if was his first season.

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    Yeah, but didn't his CHARACTER come into question that year? I don't know. I barely keep an eye on it. But I was under the impression that he has always been regarded as having a bit of a petulant tosser streak (like 'Seb' does when things aren't going his way).

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    There was a point during the season when things started going wrong on his car a few times, but Rosbergs was fine, he started to suggest conspiracy, but aside from that and his insufferable love-in with Alonso over that period, he's largely got rid of that. The end of the last race of the season was pathetic though.

    He seems to have left it at McLaren. The one he will regret is when he binned it in the gravel at China. He'd already be a 5 timer with that.

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    There was a period between about 2010-12 when he didn't have the machinery, his plastic missus was getting tetchy and he turned into a bit of a wanker. Post-Scherzinger he has been world class throughout. The Rosberg year was just a case of Nico drove a great season and had a bit of luck, you can't win them all.

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    Ditching her has been his best career move by far.

    Rosbergs ultimate troll of insta-retiring after was also brilliant.

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    Yep, 2007 will the one that sticks the most. Even with the China binning, he bottled Interlagos and started clambering at the dash. You can't do owt if reliability starts going. All you can do is drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    There was a period between about 2010-12 when he didn't have the machinery, his plastic missus was getting tetchy and he turned into a bit of a wanker. Post-Scherzinger he has been world class throughout. The Rosberg year was just a case of Nico drove a great season and had a bit of luck, you can't win them all.
    'Seb' won them all when he had the car didn't he?

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    Debatable for 2011/12, that McLaren was pretty close to the Red Bull.

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    So was the Ferrari, though. And Renault won a race with Kimi. Alonso was only 3 points behind Vettel, in spite of Seb winning four races on the bounce at one stage. That was the season we had six different winners in six races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    Debatable for 2011/12, that McLaren was pretty close to the Red Bull.
    Newey always had the blown floor in his pocket. McLaren probably had the best engines all the way through, but it wasn't really an engine formula then like it is now.

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    True, but that fourth title wasn't won from the dominant position the first two were.

    In other news, aren't Williams a disgrace these days. Miles off the pace and have been all year. They should swallow whatever teutonic sausage Toto might be offering in exchange for a wheelbarrow full of parts and a soon to be unemployed Frenchman. It couldn't possibly be any worse than it already is after all.

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    Sirotkin in that last race drove like one of those no-hope privateers from mid-90s BTCC. At least we can delete Paddy Lowe's node from the F1 success matrix, albeit if you keep going with that logic you end up with all roads leading to Niki Lauda and no one wants that.

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    Half a second difference over the lap between the Mercs and Ferraris.

    Vettel is really going to need a DNF from Hamilton tomorrow.

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    Where's Martin Brundle? Not sure I can stand much more talk of Mershedes.

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    Looked like a double movement from Vettel then.

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    Vettel is a beaten man I'm afraid. Hamilton has absolutely roasted him these last few races in a slower car and he knows it.

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    Force India really are terrible at team orders. If you having them - use them. The constantly let the slower driver hold up the quicker one.

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    Perez isn't any faster, he's been a whinging asshole everywhere he's been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Vettel is a beaten man I'm afraid. Hamilton has absolutely roasted him these last few races in a slower car and he knows it.
    Hamilton really is a beast.

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    I thought Red Bull would have risked the Hypers then.

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    The KGB director keeps cutting away to pointless shots, it's very annoying.

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    I'd like to have seen them switch Bottas back into first.

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    That's harsh on Bottas but understandable. Hamilton now holds 2 get out of jail free cards.

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    Interested to see if Hamilton will give Bottas a win back if the title is secured before the end.

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    There's a long tradition of number 2s winning the last 2 races in championships. Gerhard Berger probably got most of his wins that way.

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