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Thread: The Jude Bellingham Summer 2023 Transfer Thread

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    Ansu Fati joining Brighton is mental. What a league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Harry Maguire is on the sort of money you would expect to be on if a club spends eighty million on you (obviously a wider problem than just the salary), but the silly cunt could always just take a pay cut and actually play some games elsewhere with his England future on the line.
    How long is his contract? He'd be deemed a sillier cunt if he moved to for a pay cut and had a career ending injury shortly after. Like when Sunderland tried to appeal to Jack Rodwell over him bleeding the club dry and him just lolling at them as he drove off to presumably bang some more high class prostitutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Ansu Fati joining Brighton is mental. What a league.
    His knees are completely fucked.

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    He played in over 50 games last year so he can’t be that badly affected

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    A player who has never registered on my vast radar, the output doesn't look great though and that Amad Diallo physique ain't made for EPL. Brighton have really fucked up this summer unless Baleba comes good.

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    I mean, he was "the next Messi" a little while ago and now he's going to Brighton. He might be a bit fucked.

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    But did he ever do anything to warrant that tag or was he just riding the wave of desperation and racial inclusivity that was so fashionable at the time in Barca/Spain? He's just another Assulin-esque worthless piece of shit.

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    He’s 20

    Give him a bit of time eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I mean, he was "the next Messi" a little while ago and now he's going to Brighton. He might be a bit fucked.


    Didn't Barcelona sign him to some ridiculous release fee contract at the height of his first season impact? Presumably he's not completely terrible, so a worthy understudy for Solly March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    He’s 20

    Give him a bit of time eh
    See Messi/Doak numbers post for a reality check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post


    Didn't Barcelona sign him to some ridiculous release fee contract at the height of his first season impact? Presumably he's not completely terrible, so a worthy understudy for Solly March.
    I don't know the terms of the loan, so... sure. But considering Barcelona are skint, I think it's likely that Brighton are covering a decent percentage of his wages and considering they are Barcelona wages... I don't get it. This is not a cheap loan deal.

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    I was more lolling in agreement.

    I have no idea what this deal is.

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    Tottenham fans were making "Welcome to Spurs" videos for him yesterday morning.

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    It's mental. 14 million in wages + a £x million loan fee, no option to buy unless there's also a buy back clause for the same amount.

    What's the point?

    Either he's shit / perma-injured and he spends all year sat on his arse, or he's great and he ends up back at Barcelona in a couple of years.

    The best you could hope for is that he's good, but not too good.

    Baffling.

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    People who are cash rich and time poor make different decisions. If they hadn't spent so long fumbling around with Chelsea's bra straps for Caicedo they might have done something else

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    Yeah, they're real mugs in the transfer market, I'm sure this is a terrible deal.

    The Colwill loan pretty much benefitted all parties, so hopefully this goes the same way.

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    Thought today was DEADLINE DAY but it seems that's tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    It's mental. 14 million in wages + a £x million loan fee, no option to buy unless there's also a buy back clause for the same amount.

    What's the point?

    Either he's shit / perma-injured and he spends all year sat on his arse, or he's great and he ends up back at Barcelona in a couple of years.

    The best you could hope for is that he's good, but not too good.

    Baffling.
    If it is a 14 million deal (are they covering all of the wages) then that seems pretty cheap. That's pretty much what Adam Lallana's contract and fee will cost them over three years (or half of Joao Pedro's fee alone). They've had a pretty mega year financially and presumably have a bit left over and no primary targets left to go for (after Kudus didn't happen). Fati could go tits up but he goes back after a season so it's not like it's a huge risk that'll end up stuck on their books. If he's mega and helps land them Europe again it's clearly worth it.
    Last edited by -james-; 31-08-2023 at 08:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    If it is a 14 million deal (are they covering all of the wages) then that seems pretty cheap. That's pretty much what Adam Lallana's contract and fee will cost them over three years. They've had a pretty mega year financially and presumably have a bit left over and no primary targets left to go for (after Kudus didn't happen). Fati could go tits up but he goes back after a season so it's not like it's a huge risk that'll end up stuck on their books.
    The £14 million is just his wages from what I've heard. There will be a loan fee on top of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Why are Wolves accepting barely more than they paid for Matheus Nunes a year ago?
    Yeah, I wondered this. I guess Wolves probably have little to no say over such matters. How does Lavia quadruple in value after one season if this guy who is also good and has that year of experience barely moved the needle? You could also compare Palinha at Fulham.

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    Seen he’s off to Bayern, once Liverpool get Gravenberch. That’s Fulham going down, surely.

    I’d rather have Palhinha, also.
    I'm a twit

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    53m for Nunes. I suppose that is a nearly 50% uplift on what Wolves paid.

    What happens to Phillips now, as he's clearly not going to make the grade there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    That’s Fulham going down, surely.
    You underestimate the amount of shite in the league this year. Their floor is about 15th even without Palhinha.

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    Luton and the chip sandwich lot may well go (not so sure about Luton just yet) but 18th is very much up for grabs.

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    Luton, Sheffield United, Wolves, Everton and Burnley are all a lot worse than Fulham minus Palhinha, I'd say.

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    I'm sure it was reported at the time Wolves signed him that is was on the proviso that he left this summer for a fee that was only a smidge higher than what he signed for. Supposedly all part of the Mendes shady business.

    As for Phillips I reckon they need him for CL quota so he's up shit creek without a paddle if he wants playing time. If they don't, he has hastily arranged deadline day loan deal at 9pm written all over him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Luton and the chip sandwich lot may well go (not so sure about Luton just yet) but 18th is very much up for grabs.
    From what I have seen of them it has to be Everton. They look absolute bilge the only saving grace for them is if they can get half a season out of Calvert-Lewin they might just get enough goals to stay up. That's a massive if though.

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    Yeah, it's a shite off between the current bottom 4. Everton are probably the best of an absolutely terrible bunch though.

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    Everton will likely stay up. They always seem to just manage it.

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    I'm dreading the next 30 hours or so. I know the relegation places seem locked in but I genuinely see us going down or at least in a desperate battle if Palhinha goes. He's that good.

    Hopefully this is all a lot of hot air from the FC Bayern mouthpieces in an attempt to appease their fans/Tuchel that they tried to buy a CM this summer.

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    Geezer gets passed around like the clap.

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    So when Tuchel said 'that's your dad' he wasn't joking.

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    Gravenberch seems to be on his way to Liverpool* according to SSN. Is he any good?

    *subject to future interest from unspecified rivals.

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    He can't get a game at Bayern, which makes this move a bit odd. He strikes me as one who made his big move too quickly. He could have used another year or two at Ajax.

    I can't see his game time improving at Liverpool either. Once(if) Thiago is fit, he's about 4th choice as the attacking CM. Unless Klopp thinks he can make him play from deeper.

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    I'm surprised Utd aren't in for him. He came through under Ten Hag and we have banter players like McT and Donny skunking the place up

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    Gravenberch hasn’t even completed 1 Bundesliga game for Bayern so I’m not sure he’s much of an upgrade

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    Cole Palmer has been here-we-go'd. Another baseball signing.

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    He looks very good, but I'm struggling to think of a worse destination for him than Chelsea. He's not going to get the gametime he needs

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    Who cares when we can sell him on to Spurs next year for slightly more and claim victory.

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    Cole Palmer is clearly a backup quarterback for a mid-level NFL team.

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    Just three players remaining from the squad that won the European Cup in 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    He looks very good, but I'm struggling to think of a worse destination for him than Chelsea. He's not going to get the gametime he needs
    He will get plenty. He’s not got much ahead of him with Chukwuemeka and Nkunku out until October and January respectively.

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    Signed Fabinho's 21 year-old regen for fuck all. #FSGIN

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    Champ manager me says Liverpool should accept £150m [if that's what it genuinely is] for Salah.

    Be interesting to see which worldview wins out this season, Liverpool's ostensible received wisdom approach [assuming they don't sell] or Chelsea's much more champ managery buy loads of hot prospects and chuck them at senior football approach.

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    If Salah stays, Liverpool should easily finish top 4. Well, on the assumption the defence holds it together outside of the ‘top 6’ teams.

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    The PL is utterly hilarious. Got relegation threatened teams throwing £40m around like it’s nothing for players in the CL.

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    There's a very good chance Liverpool will be in the running this year with City after being depleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    If Salah stays, Liverpool should easily finish top 4. Well, on the assumption the defence holds it together outside of the ‘top 6’ teams.
    England almost nailed on for the extra spot for next year so you'd expect top 5 will be enough.

    I expected doom and gloom, but 7 points from 3 opening games including 2 tough away ones and playing half the time with 10 men has me optimistic.
    I reckon top 3 for us would be grand, assuming he doesn't go mad and go full strength in the Europa.

    The team has been made very suddenly a lot younger and so I reckon it could use this season to bed in. Also gives a year to plan for Salah to go if this does come back next summer.

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    £45m being the going rate for gimps like Brennan Johnson is hilarious

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