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    I've never been so happy to see Saints win something.

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    This is MASSIVE for them and Super League. When Wigan did it in 1994 their team was stacked and there wasn't a lol financial disparity. The NRL might seethe itself into an Ashes tour now.

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    I feel like they put this presentation together for a Penrith win.

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    There’s a Leigh player (Keanan Brand) on Love Island.
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    Another game another forward pass by about a metre. It wasn’t even remotely close

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    I was reading a thing in the Guardian about a previous game.

    Around the country of England, though, supporters were yelling at their TV screens: did their eyes deceive them? Surely Matt Fagerson’s pass to his teammate Van der Merwe, lurking on the wing, had gone forward?

    The answer was that indeed it had, by one measure, although not the one that actually – mostly – matters when officials apply Law 11, concerning the “Knock on or throw forward”. Fagerson released the ball almost exactly on England’s 22, and Van der Merwe caught it a couple of metres in front of that point, judging by the pitch markings.

    The deciding factor as to the legality of a pass, as the referee Wayne Barnes explained on World Rugby’s website during the last World Cup, is the direction of the ball from the hands, rather than the position of passer relative to receiver. “It’s not about the direction that the ball eventually ends up, it’s about the direction it’s travelling in as it leaves the hands,” Barnes said.

    It comes down to something called relative velocity. The momentum of a player moving forward will also take the ball forward, even if the pass leaves their hands going backwards. The case of Fagerson’s try-creating pass to Van der Merwe was complicated by the camera angle, which did not conclusively demonstrate the ball going backwards out of the back-rower’s hands.
    Not sure that makes sense to me as you'd have thought if it clearly doesn't pass the eyeball test it must be forward but what do I know.

    Full article: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ative-velocity

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    This Wales attack is hilariously bad.

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    The standard of both teams is absolutely hilarious. Bang average, England slightly the better.

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    Yeah neither are up to much are they. Borthwick's got a bit of a job on if the World Cup isn't to be a bit lol.

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    If Owen Farrell is missing ten points off the tee (again) then what really is the point of him being there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    I was reading a thing in the Guardian about a previous game.



    Not sure that makes sense to me as you'd have thought if it clearly doesn't pass the eyeball test it must be forward but what do I know.

    Full article: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ative-velocity
    Relative velocity is absolute nonsense, concocted to essentially allow forward passes. The speeds you actually need to be travelling to see the sort of deviations, 1 or 2 metre differentials [over the course of a 5 metre pass] are mad [and most passes are made from a fairly 'low speed' situation, very rarely being made whilst running as fast as the receiver].

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Relative velocity is absolute nonsense, concocted to essentially allow forward passes.
    That was my gut reaction to it as well. Twist the rules in the name of attacking play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    If Owen Farrell is missing ten points off the tee (again) then what really is the point of him being there?
    Fulfilling the northern quota.

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    Ahhhh, nice to see Scotland are back. Try conceded after a few minutes and now a red card after 6. Fuck me.

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    So much for this being a good game.

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    I turn on ten minutes late and the game is already over.

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    Well that’s a clear red card.

    This should be open as fuck now if nothing else

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    12 down in France is tough but still, game back on perhaps.

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    Never change France.

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    Or.... not.

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    Jesus. He’s been fucking awful in the first half 3 matches running. Brilliant in the 2nd half but not going to matter here.

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    Russell does my head in sometimes. Stop fackin kicking it

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    Bottled the fuck out of that. So many wasted opportunities, France didn’t have a clue what to do all 2nd half until the overshot line up.

    No bonus points either which means they’re gonna have to beat Ireland with 4+ tries I’m fairly sure to have a chance overall.

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    Not sure there's any Leeds fans in. Great noise.
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    Leeds appear to have put stickers of a different sponsor over their original sleeve sponsors, and Saints have a big white strip over their original back sponsor. What is happening there?

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    We’ve had that for all four games, I presumed it was related to the tracker box thing but idk

    Also that was a shambles.
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    Wayne Bennett at it again.

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    I've always liked brie.

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    Are we going to be good again at some point soon?

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    England’s defence is special.

    Smith is also tragic.

    Oh my days
    Last edited by Waffdon; 11-03-2023 at 06:07 PM.

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    Fuck me

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    Get this useless cunt sacked.

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    This is amazing. Can’t be we bottled beating these french the other week as well.

    Ireland will feel the wrath tomorrow instead.

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    Thank christ that wasn't in a proper sport.

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    There was the possibility that some of these players weren't as good as Eddie Jones was making them look. In similar England sacking news, Wayne Bennett is still at it.

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    I’ve got money on a Scottish red card. Seems inevitable as it was the other week. Probably gonna be about 8+ tries in this game.

    Wtf are these two line ups from Scotland. Jesus
    Last edited by Waffdon; 12-03-2023 at 03:08 PM.

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    Great game this.

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    Scotland doing the opposite of usual. Defending really well but not taking advantage of the opportunities in the Ireland 22. Think Ireland might batter them in this 2nd half with the wind behind them.

    Playing too frantic when they get there. It does work most of the time but should have slowed it down a couple of times. The only hope is scotland have started well in 2nd halves over the tournament

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    Hansen having the game of his life.

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    Scotland’s line out has been utterly pathetic today. Absolutely dreadful 2nd half as well. Ah well

    Jesus. They’re just clueless how to break down this Ireland defence. Absolute monsters
    Last edited by Waffdon; 12-03-2023 at 04:32 PM.

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    Saints are back.
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    They might be winning but Scotland have been an absolute mess here.

    Clearly been figured out as the tournament went on. They were scoring what felt like half the time they were in the 22 for the first 2.5 games. Ever since their their try against France in the 2nd half they look like they don’t know what to do every time they are presented with an opportunity
    Last edited by Waffdon; 18-03-2023 at 01:21 PM.

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    What a game. Scotland going for the 4th try from their own try line in the 80th minute when in the 80th min

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    Never a red. Game's gone.

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    Why don't they just get everyone to wear [amateur boxing] crash helmets rather than entirely immolate the game? Only just saw a replay as was watching something else, but hasn't the Irish guy just ducked into his elbow there?

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    I think the expectation is for the England player to open himself up at take a head to the chest/chin, otherwise somebody might get hurt.

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    Just seems a bit mad. It's an inherently dangerous game from a head injury perspective, I don't really see what you can realistically do about it and keep it as a fair contact sport. It is interesting though that the proliferation of red cards does seem to have made the man-advantage a much less formidable thing than in days gone by. England are obviously going to get done here, but that was probably going to happen anyway. Dunno if the Irish should be pleased to have been playing shite and coming through games, or worried that they're going to fluff their lines/be on the wrong end of a red card when crunch comes in the autumn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Never a red. Game's gone.
    Just catching the highlights. Baffling decision.

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