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    Okay, this is chaos.

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    Dont teams have always onboard footage of their drivers. How can you not know what is happening?

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    Absolute disaster for Mercedes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    Dont teams have always onboard footage of their drivers. How can you not know what is happening?
    I mean from crash to pit it was probably 30 seconds, surely? And they had Bottas' tires ready to put on if I recall.

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    Do we still have time limits? This one might take a while.

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    2 hours or race distance.

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    This race is a strong case for Bernie's sprinklers.

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    Hulk

    How many races is it without a podium? does he hold the record

    Edit: 166 and counting. Sutil is 2nd with 128
    Last edited by SincereTheRebel; 28-07-2019 at 02:32 PM.

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    Hamilton having a 'mare.

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    Haas need a new pair of drivers.

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    Those costumes working out well lads.

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    Nobody with a commemorative paint scheme has ever won a race, I bet Toto is out there now scratching it off with his keys.

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    I wasn’t watching but this just confirms my theory that all the races should be done in artificial rain.

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    We get this shit every time there's a wet race. Just be happy with the novelty, man.

    Quote Originally Posted by phonics
    I wasn’t watching but this just confirms my theory that all the races should be done in artificial rain.
    Why? You didn't watch when there was rain here.

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    Because I’m not waking up at 7 in the morning?

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    With the calendar being extended to about million races I'm wondering how F1 would go around an oval, it would be the perfect second US race they keep banging on about.

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    Just bring it to Sebring and make my dreams come true.

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    Monster lap that by Verstappen. Makes Ricciardo's decision more ludicrous with every passing day. He (and Red Bull) would be donning it this year.

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    He would also be getting shown up by his team mate every weekend, which is worse career-wise than being in a slower car. He's got a factory drive, the shittest one, but a factory drive nonetheless.

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    Hamilton crushed that. Great drive.

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    Absolutely mugged them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    With the calendar being extended to about million races I'm wondering how F1 would go around an oval, it would be the perfect second US race they keep banging on about.
    Wouldn't the cars just take off unless they completely rebuilt the downforce package? Or is it a case of just tilting the suspension and off you go?

    Then there's the dirty air problem, you'd need permanent DRS.

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    Bring 'em to Daytona and you can have a little bit of both

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    We did that before at Indianapolis, which was actually a bit of a rubbish event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Wouldn't the cars just take off unless they completely rebuilt the downforce package? Or is it a case of just tilting the suspension and off you go?

    Then there's the dirty air problem, you'd need permanent DRS.
    They're all running adjustable ride height suspension anyway so I reckon that would be fine. Actually I think the engines would be the sticking point, you'd shred one doing a decent race distance and the MGU-K is just a hunk of metal you'll be dragging around for no reason. You also remove fuel from the equation which is half the fun of an oval race, and that's before we even get to the safety aspect.

    I've been watching a lot of Indycar & NASCAR this year and have developed an appreciation of oval racing, now I want to see some with either non-shitty cars or non-shitty race structure.

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    As a compromise I'd like to see them attempt some kind of circuit similar to the old Hockenheim, with a massively increased % of the lap flat out but maybe with the inevitable goose step parade section at the end of the lap. See what the clever clogs can get those engines to do without going pop.

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    Viewers of the Foxwood Casino 300 will already have seen much the same thing as the New Hampshire (?) Speedway has very little bank to it. You could always just take the chicances out of Monza and you get basically the same thing (apart from it being exceedingly lethal).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    We did that before at Indianapolis, which was actually a bit of a rubbish event.
    Well, it was marginally interesting in 2007. Or that MotoGP race they had hours after a hurricane.

    On old circuits, I'm surprised how much of the old Spa layout was flat-out nonsense. There was that, Hockenheim, the full Monza, AVUS, Indy, Le Mans, Rouen. Tracks that just went on forever following highways until they had to turn around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    We did that before at Indianapolis, which was actually a bit of a rubbish event.
    Well I thought this too but since it was suggested I figured I'd try to bring it home to Florida

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    Viewers of the Foxwood Casino 300 will already have seen much the same thing as the New Hampshire (?) Speedway has very little bank to it. You could always just take the chicances out of Monza and you get basically the same thing (apart from it being exceedingly lethal).
    301*

    Also, if we're gonna go for it, we need to either

    A. go straight up Talladega with it... where they basically just run flat out on the throttle for the entire lap and would end up going 250 mph orrrr

    B. go to Bristol, which is a half mile track, and watch the chaos as Mercedes and Ferrari try to fight lapped traffic as soon as lap 3 and absolute utter insanity breaks out

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    I wasn't convinced by Bristol, which is a shame because it looks like some mental tarmac colosseum. The places that have more than one viable line have been the better spectacle, the awfully named Chicagoland and Pocono (which we seem to have been to twice already) stand out for me.

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    Spain appears to have woken up and bunged some pesetas in the right direction and Catalunya will be back on the calendar for next year at least.

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    Sucks to be Hockenheim.

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    Wild to think Lewis Hamilton will become the winning-est F1 driver ever by the end of next year at the latest.

    Schumi 91
    Ham 81

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    When he retired I was absolutely certain his records would never be beaten, now they all look very much within reach.

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    Hamilton has set his in less dominant machinery as well. There, I said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    When he retired I was absolutely certain his records would never be beaten, now they all look very much within reach.
    Same goes for Valentino Rossi's bike records. Never thought I'd see someone up on those so soon.

    Lewis' run has been great. He and Schumi have some good parallels when you consider they both had that torrid stint where they drove the wheels off absolute shite.

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    Unless something goes pretty badly wrong, you imagine Lewis takes his 6th title from here. He'll be 35 at the start of next season, so the question becomes just how far he can take all of these records.

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    He has exactly the right number of years left on his current contract to get to 8 titles.

    Interesting how that possibly plays into Bottas going in the bin.

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    If I were Merc I would keep Bottas around I think, quick enough to stick it on the front row on a consistent basis, but also fucks up enough that in the unlikely event of Ferrari or another team ever getting their shit together, Hamilton won't be compromised for the WDC.

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    Depends what Mercedes want.

    If you want to keep Lewis in his happy place and have someone who gets enough to bring in the constructors too, then Bottas is probably your guy.

    Ocon has been sat waiting for the call for years now, so you imagine he's their next man up. I don't see them going too outlandish beyond that.

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    Depends how long Bottas wants to play second fiddle. Hell, Lewis might grab the record or even stop short and decide to ruin Alonso's triple crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    If I were Merc I would keep Bottas around I think, quick enough to stick it on the front row on a consistent basis, but also fucks up enough that in the unlikely event of Ferrari or another team ever getting their shit together, Hamilton won't be compromised for the WDC.
    Normally I'd agree with that, he's decent enough without being a threat which keeps Hamilton happy, still nets a reasonable points haul and is there or thereabouts if he's needed to assist with strategy. Right now though they need a Hamilton replacement and he isn't that. You could argue that George Russell is that (his stint with Williams also very coincidentally runs until the end of Hamiltons Mercedes contract) but that remains to be seen, so the sensible choice would be to bring Ocon in next year and give him time to get his feet under the table. Keeping Bottas would seem a waste of time if you've already decided he isn't a replacement for Hamilton.

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    The only Hamilton successor I see on the grid is Verstappen. You can never really tell who'll step up though. I never had Rosberg down as champion material but he stepped up. Same goes for Button who, despite the paddock being big on him, I never saw him outdoing Barrichello.

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    You only needed to look at the second half of 2006 to see that Button was the real deal, you can put everything else down to a truly horrific list of terrible cars and Flavio being a cunt.

    I think all three of Albon, Norris, and Russell could make it. Albon is beating Kvyat (who's issue was never pace) in his first year, Norris is obviously very good and Russell beat them both in GP2 last year.

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    Of the current grid I'd say Norris is the one I'd want in Mercedes shoes.
    There'll also be a Red Bull driver coming in once they bin off Gasly too.

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    Lando is the one who stands out to me as champion class, albeit I haven't seen any Russell as he is always off screen and never racing anyone. Norris, though, shouldn't really be anywhere near Sainz at this point unless he's top tier. Sainz is good.

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    I reckon Gasly will get the rest of the season, purely because they have no other options. Kvyat: been there done that. Albon: risks being Gasly 2.0, which even the good Doctor mut recognise. Then who, is there anyone left in their driver program?

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    Oh dear, we've all ignored Leclerc.

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    Is Gasly that bad? I'd say Verstappen has no right to have that car anywhere near the Ferraris, and Gasly is more or less where you'd expect him to be.

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