Equally, though, the only time a government would actually put snipers out would be a) if there were an existential threat to the state itself; b) if they didn't think that they would ultimately be dragged in front of the Hague for doing so. A isn't true anywhere with covid, and B is only true in places like China (and even then, who knows).Originally Posted by Giggles
Well not actually snipers obviously. But people need to be shown that they can be made to do as they’re bid at times like this. The flouting has been a massive two fingers and those people need to be crushed.
What time is today’sshowannouncement?
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Giggles fear of the SECOND WAVE is palpable.
The regret he must be feeling about the way he's lived his life.
Could be worse, I could have had yours. I’d take the sweet release of death rather than live one minute of your loveless, family devoid existence.Giggles fear of the SECOND WAVE is palpable.
The regret he must be feeling about the way he's lived his life.
There’s no fear to be had of a second wave, it’ll just be around and we’ll need to behave accordingly rather than what the papers splash across their front pages. It won’t all just come at once even if you do write it in all caps.
My posts above come from a feeling that people need to be put in their place rather than anything virus specific. If you’re told to do something then you should be doing it, and especially not blatantly flouting it.
https://www.endcoronavirus.org/countries
Good time to stay alert and control the virus imo
So would I... until Dec 2018.
It’ll hardly turn out well when you’re the problem.So would I... until Dec 2018.
7pm. Gonna be a momentous occasion.
"Grandpa, where were you when Boris announced the re-opening of frosts?"
That's quite wishy-washy and could easily be taken as the go ahead to start doing shit. Hell, it might actually be the go ahead.
I think a 2nd, 3rd and probably numerous further waves are pretty much nailed on. As Jimmy said, it's just not deadly enough for Johnny Public to be willing to inconvenience themselves for an undefined period of time.
I can see everything largely being allowed to go back to normal by the end of summer, with just the old, vulnerable and Yevrah being banged up in their houses.
I can assure you Spikey, I'll be out as soon as is allowed.
They won’t really be ‘waves’ it’ll just hang around like the normal flu just with a higher mortality rate. Until there’s an actual vaccine anyway.
EDIT: Forgot to add “IF EVER!!!!!!11!!!1!!” to to the end of the vaccine sentence. It’s the law than you have to.
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It doesn't operate like normal flu, though. It is not seasonal.
Nobody even knows if you can catch it twice or had it in their area for a full year so I’d imagine that’s probably not set in stone.
If we go too far with the opening up we'll get another tens of thousands of deaths. Which doesn't necessarily mean we shouldn't open up, but at this point I can't understand how that isn't crystal clear to people.
There'll definitely be waves. This thing spreads like wildfire given the chance. As soon as people relax a bit, it'll spike again.
From the BBC:
Cases in Ghana jump by nearly 30% in a single day, as 500 workers at an industrial facility test positive.
It's mental how contagious this is.
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Is it though? I thought that thinking was swaying towards it being less contagious than first feared. The situation as experienced in Europe is the product of allowing it to spread unchecked for at least 2, maybe 3 months whilst it was largely under the radar. You'd have to imagine that won't be allowed to happen again, with all the test track and trace or whatever it is (assuming that in any way happens), and a general greater awareness of the possible existence of this thing. I'm almost certain my mother in law had this in early Feb, she had all the classic symtoms, comes from one of the seed points in the UK (Brighton) and went to Tenerife for good measure during that time (poss end of Jan) - it'll be interesting to see just how many people have had it if they can ever roll out an effective antibody test.
The meat factories thing seems to be a huge thing here and when I was searching for some more info I see it’s a thing in other territories too. Is it just that working conditions in these tend to be shit and workers in them tend to be treated like dirt (though that would surely apply across most of the food manufacturing industry then) or is it something to do with working in artificially cold areas and then being in and out to higher ones?
Left unchecked, the R-0 is 5.7. That seems high to me anyway.
It's still near enough 1 despite most of us staying home as much as possible.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52605819
"Stay alert will mean stay alert, by staying home as much as possible"
Except don't, you know, feel like you have to stay at home....otherwise we would have just stuck with "stay at home" for another three weeks? Do what you want and on your heads be it if it goes wrong, I suppose.
I'm not one to join the government pile-on, but I do feel like this new direction is vague to the point of being meaningless. Obviously we'll have to wait and see what he actually says in the address. I'm not even saying we shouldn't be allowed out, I'm not an expert, I don't have a fucking clue. I just struggling to grasp when the actual direction is supposed to be at the minute.
Who the fuck is going to change their behaviour because the three line slogan has changed, even though its introduction comes with an emphasis of staying at home?
You're either already breaking rules or you were going to break it regardless of the slogan change.
All I can glean so far is that they want the economy to open up but only unofficially, so they can't be blamed when it goes tits up and everyone dies.
That's what this whole fucking thing has been. Them refusing to take responsibility and trying to shift the blame.
I completely disagree. If the government say 'don't do that, it's an order' most people listen. If they then go out of their way to revoke the order and replace it with a limp 'just don't be silly' request, then a large proportion of society is going to relax and start doing a whole host of silly shit.
As I've been saying for a while now, it's a shambles.
I guess what I'm saying is if you're thick enough to only comprehend the slogan and not the actual context, you're not intelligent enough to adhere to instructions in the first place.
Looks like Scots, Welsh and Giggles' better half are telling England to fuck off, let's have some referendums to entertain us.
Bearing in mind that things aren't going to all open up as normal any time soon, what else can you use as a slogan other than one aimed at maintaining positive habits during gradual re-opening (and possible re-closing)? People aren't going to read it as an invitation to do everything they want; and even if they did, they can't anyway.
To be fair to Johnson, he didn't sign up for this.
He thought this would be the happy fun-time 'GET BREXIT DONE' Premiership, he never thought he have to actually preside over a crisis and show leadership. Telling people to stay at home for their safety? Closing down businesses? Ensuring a clear message is passed down to a nervous public?
'Nah can't have that dear boy, Raab or Hancock can do that, ta-ta chaps I'm off to knob Carrie for a bit and then I might pop into one of those COBRA meetings if I feel like it but Dom attends those and really he speaks for me anyway so cheerio!'
The governments intent is clear without being explicit. We need to get to normal as it's costing us a fortune but we need the public to give up first.
I must admit, while I think this slogan is stupid, Twitter's glee about how stupid it is makes me think it possibly isn't as stupid as I first thought.
If that makes any sense.
The slogan is just a diversion and should have no time paid to it at all.
Something really does need to be done about Northen Ireland though. We really don’t want to be sharing an island with you so it’s either time to ship the planters back to Scotland and make us take on the mess or it’s time to close about 200 of the border crossings permanently and do it properly with no free movement.
The slogan is easy to understand.
[173 words later]
See?
The virus is weird. It seems for most people, they dont spread it. But then one person can pass it on to a multitude of people.
If you look at this, you will see most dont pass it on:
https://infographics.channelnewsasia...-clusters.html
Another thing that backs this up is that if someone in your house gets it, the odds of household transmission at the moment is estimated to be around 15%.
Here's two report on it but I've seen a few:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....03.20028423v3
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance...iaa450/5821281
Basically get me in a fucking beer garden
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It's easy, the message is;
STAY ALERT by STAYING AT HOME but you can go out for a bit longer and more often during the day but you should still BE ALERT, oh and garden centres can open as well so you can get your gardening done but you should still be STAYING ALERT if you're there and if you're sunbathing then you shouldn't but we're not going to arrest you so STAY ALERT and then GO HOME AND STAY HOME until tomorrow when you do the same again.
It seems to mainly be people highlighting their own stupidity. HOW CAN YOU BE ALERT AGAINST A VIRUS?! Really?
Big billboards with the phrase, "DON'T BE FUCKING STUPID" would be awesome. Covers a multitude of sins. Like how they brought out the BIN THE WIPE bus shelter ads for this. You forget it's about not clogging your pipes until you put just a bit of thought into it.
Exactly.
Blood on their hands.
We're coming to join you.
No Blacks, No Dags, No Northern Irish.
I see Lord Foster will be ignoring Boris' new message which won't go down all that well. I still prefer the big fence/wall though.
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/po...foster-2848235 (I hope the bottom line of that headline doesn't go missing or it'll cause heart attacks across NI).
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Yeah, I'm quite surprised given how keen she and her party were to follow on everything else like Brexit but I'm glad they've diverged on this.
She was fairly dead set on following what the mainland was doing in the beginning too rather than aligning anything with us (school closures, etc). I know that's how politics works up there but that's what makes this all the more surprising now.Yeah, I'm quite surprised given how keen she and her party were to follow on everything else like Brexit but I'm glad they've diverged on this.
Boris and his “power of three” slogans are either something he learned in Year 6, or recently crammed in from a free udemy class on search engine optimisation.
Seen that List Of Boris’ Mistakes thats doing the rounds?
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Here it is:
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EDIT: Turns out it was put together by the person who did my wedding photography, rather than doing the rounds per se, so feel free to fact-check it.
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