Holland
You see, couple of upsets and the tournament suddenly gains some life.
Holland
You see, couple of upsets and the tournament suddenly gains some life.
That was a great game to watch/listen to yesterday. Particularly enjoyed the number 10 coming in and absolutely smoking 3 slower balls for 6.
No prizes for guessing the outcome here.Big, big appeal as Conway is caught in front of the sticks. Umpire Joel Wilson gives it a looong look, but says not out. Afghanistan have taken the review. Must say, this looks very close
Not sure what Joel was seeing there.
This bloke Tanzid Hasan who is opening up for Bangladesh and currently 49* off 40 against the rock stars. Looked into him. 22 years old, debuted internationally in August and had scored 56 runs in 7 games before today. Domestically, and this is in Bangladesh remember, averages 26 in list A striking at 83, and 24 in T20 striking at 110, both basically crap for a modern day opening bat.
And there's his 41-ball half century. Greatest hunch pick of all time? Or the Zak Crawley of the Bengal Delta?
Was part of the their very successful under 19 team tbf. Certainly passes the eye test a la Crawley, some lovely shots so far.
Ohhh, another great start before throwing away wicket after wicket.
Turns out spin is quite important in India, who knew. Fortunately we brought three left arm seamers and a right arm quick in reserve so we're well stocked.
The upside down lot absolutely destroying Pakistan here. Sad times.
Absolutely brutal. Should be 400 minimum from here
If Davey hits a double ton I might genuinely cry. I think Joel Wilson has finally pushed him over the edge.
Aus were 259/0 and then lost 9 for 108, now Starc has bowled four wides in the first five balls. Surely not even Pakistan are mad enough to make a game of this.
I think they'll do it.
Even with the obvious political issues, the complete lack of Pakistanis in the crowds is quite surprising. You’d think a few would risk getting lynched to see their team in a World Cup.
Then Google told me the Indian Government blamed “unforeseen delays” in the tourist visa process for Pakistani nationals. So basically if you weren’t already in India, you’re not getting in. Of course.
Pakistani journalists were invited to send in any questions via WhatsApp so no issue really
Another potential close finish drifts away…
The lack of decent number 7s is a bit of a theme in teams falling over in the middle/end. Holland have almost had the best one. Ten years ago everyone had someone who could whomp it and bowl a few offies, now it seems to be 5 front line bowlers everywhere.
This looks like it's going well.
Another one which snuck up on me.
I don't understand how you get this so wrong so willingly. 4 seamers in India and David Willey batting seven, Root bowls himself into the ground while Moeen Ali watches on wearing a bib. Oh and there's our one spinner getting the wicket.
Think they've just drowned in analytics.
The wild pivot from all the all- rounders to none doesn’t exactly scream good planning either.
375+ for South Africa here.
Pre tournament there was some theory going round about two new kookaburra balls favouring pace etc etc NO LADS. PACE OFF. THE BATSMEN HAVE TO HIT IT HARDER FOR EACH RUN WHICH INCREASES THE MARGIN OF ERROR.
Mark Wood is literally going at 11s here.
I've put myself through these last few overs as a kind of masochistic ritual. I haven't seen us go to pieces like this for 20 years. Complete physical and mental disintegration.
We are literally and metaphorically COOKED.
We need a miracle to get these.
Just turn off when Johnny gets out in the 2nd over lads, it's not worth it.
With 100 overs and 20 wickets I doubt we'd do it. Hardly any of the original XI even seem to be on the pitch now.
Rashid sitting on 2/60. Any danger of picking another spinner?
I think the false belief that Liam Livingstone can play cricket well is at the root of a lot of it. Will Jacks and/or Liam Dawson should have gone and why we have both Curran and Willey I have no idea.
Moeen of course there too but not picked, genius.
I don't know why I put myself through all that but I'm in a thoroughly foul mood now.
I think the best thing to do is blame India and their climate, absolve ourselves of all responsibility here.
Would just like to say now that I doubt Jonny Bairstow. Come on JB. Hear me.
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Cracking start.
3/3 caught on the leg side so far, this is always the sign of an England team that just can't be bothered.
Obviously bowling first was a mad, probably computer says chase, decision, but there's something a bit off about the guy who's just smeared you to all parts not having to come out and field.
Nice, another one down.
I don't think any other nations does wheels coming off quite like England.
Fire up the Jason Roy memes.
I think the time-honoured 'dew factor' will have informed the toss decision. Looking a bit slippery out there already, South Africa in huge trouble.
The decision to bowl first in this match was awful (even though I'm aftertiming slightly). In Indian conditions, you put runs on the board and let your spinners do their work. We chose to bowl first and picked one frontline spinner.
This might be the worst performance of all time by a major side. I'm not even exaggerating either. Quite obviously don't want to be at this tournament.
Don’t think we’ll get these
There's always a Bob video
My cricket team are on a day out and we genuinely think we could do a better job of this run chase.
As evidenced by Gus Atkinson and Mark Wood (who bats lower than me in our league) here.
We faced Gus Atkinson a few years ago and, yeah, didn't go so well.
I like Matthew Mott but this is the biggest load of horseshit imaginable and sums up how these people now think, i.e. completely without using their own brains and experiences.
England coach Matthew Mott to Sky Sports: "I can't lie, that was a hard night for us. It was a fantastic cricket wicket, and we looked at the ground stats that told us it's a good ground to chase on.
"On reflection, the heat was more than we bargained for. We were actually in control of the powerplay early on but it just spiralled out of control after that.
"They got at least 60 or 70 over par in the end.
"Hindsight is great. But we went out there to do a job and we set about that really well to begin with. The last 10 overs spiralled, they had two set batters in and they were class.
"We got the first five wickets, done the bulk of the work with their top order, and at that point we could have been chasing around 300 which would have been very achievable.
"We looked at our match-ups with South Africa and we wanted to go pace-heavy. We thought that was our best way of taking 10 wickets.
"We will definitely reflect on those changes but I don't think that was the difference between the teams today. We were thoroughly outplayed and they engineered the conditions perfectly.
"It was as tough as you can get. We are hurting and it is hard to chat about a game like that because we were not in the race after the first 25 overs."
This is like the xG mongs in football.
"best way of taking 10 wickets" is the best line.
What?
"Engineered the conditions perfectly" also outstanding.
Get him in the bin.
Actually, nothing about it is coherent and it is all contradictory. Got the first five wicket and the bulk of the work done, but we were not in the race after the first 25 overs, what? 5 wickets must have been 35 overs in, no?
In the bin.
Something I've realised in the last couple of years, particularly while handling a couple of very good Aussie overseas in club cricket over here, is that Australian cricket as a whole doesn't understand spin. Like, we are terrible at both bowling and playing spin, but we get that it exists and what it is designed to do. Australians can't process on a very basic level that you would try to fiddle one past a batter subtly rather than macho-ing it past them with pace/bounce or, if you have to, with big gripping leggies a la Warne, Benaud, Grimmett et al. Even Nathan Lyon is effectively an overspinner of the ball, i.e. he puts a load of revs on it over the top and gets you with bounce rather than anything else. That's because that's what works on the hard concrete strips they have over there passing for cricket pitches. They come onto slower wickets and have tweakers zipping it at them and they don't understand what's going on.
I fear that Mr Mott has fallen victim to this syndrome. For a start the squad selection for India was insane, and then having arrived there he decides that their 'match ups' against South Africa favour pace. Presumably that means South Africa have good numbers against spin. Now, what is this I find with a cursory google?
OK, great. So who have they played since 2022 and where?This is a different South African team to the ones we are used to. They come here with great numbers against spin. Since the start of 2022, they average 42 against spin in the middle overs at a-run-a-ball, the best by a distance.
Australia (home) won 3-2. Australia's top wicket taker was Zampa, with an admittedly expensive 8.
Holland (home) won 2-0. It was hard work for Aryan Dutt, he went around at 52 as the Dutch team's sole spinner.
West Indies (home) drew 1-1. Here Akeal Hosein did well against them with 5 at 21, but it was hard yards for (checks notes) Yannic Cariah, a leggie who averaged 96.
England (away) won 2-1, in which, and wait until you hear about these match-ups, our top wicket takers were (I'm not making this up) Rashid with 4, and Moeen Ali with 3.
India (away), a place where the ball grips and spins sideways. Who was India's leading wicket taker? Kuldeep Yadav with 6 at 17, natch.
Bangladesh (home), lost 1-2 - yes, they lost to Bangladesh - with Mehidy Hasan's offies accounting for 6 at 24.
So what they've basically done is seen that South Africa have, whilst developing into quite a successful ODI team, pongo'd certain shit spinners around in the middle overs while high class ones continue to do well against them, all of this pretty much entirely at home. We move the arena to India, where the ball actually spins, DAYS after they have been pissed on from a great height by of all people Roelof van der Merwe, and suddenly we decide that a half-fit David Willey is the match-up? I'm sorry, it's just horseshit and reeks of Mott being clueless while Buttler just saunters around thinking he knows the ground because he's played T20s there with MI (in ODIs the ground history does NOT favour chasing). It's lazy and it's pathetic.
Pakistan have been hilariously bad in the field here.
He's out now so the collapse could well be on, but Gurbaz is a hell of a batter.
I think we're on a run of every single result for 10 days going in Australia's favour, and this looks like being no exception.
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