http://www.theguardian.com/football/...erpool-manager
Apparently they've already started dicking around with the coaching setup to suit him.
Thoughts?
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...erpool-manager
Apparently they've already started dicking around with the coaching setup to suit him.
Thoughts?
I hoped he'd manage us one day, so a bit gutted on that front. I think it's probably the best appointment they could've made, and I expect him to do well.
I hate how it's international weekend.
I agree with Boydy's first post.
I think he'll get them fifth and stay there, so is that good or bad?
Beat me to it.Originally Posted by Lewis
He'll do well if he gets time to settle in but I can't see him hitting the ground running. Didn't Dortmund do piss all for his first two or three seasons there? He seems like somebody who will want to build a team in his own image and take a while to get them playing how he'd like.
No lower than third.
I'm genuinely surprised (and delighted) that he didn't wait for an offer from a better club. There are still enough players in the squad who should be comfortable with his brand of counter-attacking, high-pressing football for it to work. Fifth should be the target, but I'm already happy if the manages to improve the turgid performances we've seen so far this season.
Would be Spurs they play next, wouldn't it.
A high press off?
Until that one season where they slip to fourth and think they're title contenders. Then they'll slip back to fifth and he will be fired.
If there's one season with a gift-wrapped opportunity for fourth it's this one.
This is basically perfect on paper.
He's the man almost any Liverpool fan would have wanted had you asked them and is about the best manager we could have signed. There's a buzz about the place again and the fans are happy with the owners. Which was a relationship ready to turn sour.
If FSG back off with their principles and let Klopp do as he thinks is right, we'll head back in the right direction. However just swapping Rodgers for Klopp and leaving everything else as is, would be quite stupid.
'I'd like you to sign Marco Reus.'
'What about, yeah, if we sign Yannick Bolasie instead?'
*sixth*
Very happy with that appointment.
Klopp brought on quite a few players in his time with Dortmund - Lewandowski, Gotze, Reus, Kagawa, Gundogan, Hummels, etc. all developed nicely under him. So hopefully he can so some good work with what we have at the minute.
.....
I reckon they'll be pretty much sorted identity/tactics wise by the end of the season. He's about as good as you can get, any club in the world would happily take him.
I don't like Liverpool, but I'm looking forward to this.
Nice one.
The delusion is glorious.
I agree, but there's more chance of Gerry Marsden doing a celebratory collaboration album with Kraftwerk than there is of a group of Americans with a multi-million dollar financial stake in something 'backing off and letting x do as he thinks right'.
It really is. We're about to go through a serious bullish phase, I imagine, followed by the inevitable disillusionment when the titles don't get come.
Why is it delusioned to think one of the best managers will do well?
He will do well, I imagine. Just not as good as the mental scousers are thinking, though.
He'll probably win the champions league next year.
Gone that quickly eh?
I hope Gary Macca gets to stick around.
Any predictions on signings in the next two transfers windows?
Stefan Bell? Granit Xhaka? Timo Horn?
I'm a twit
I did enjoy this yesterday:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/...20151007102688
Why would they do this? Their principles are what has just prompted them to sack an arsehole-ish but talented manager. Why would they sack him and then go "Shit me, we've been doing it all wrong?"
Not to say they HAVEN'T but if they have it's because they're spineless as well as stupid rather than any cunning plan to lure Klopp in.
Who are these mental scousers? Who in this or any other thread have suggested we are going to do anything in the next few years?
Some people has suggested that it's a good appointment, which given his pedigree, and the previous potato we had in charge, it is.
Which mental 'scousers' are you referring to? No one here has said much more than 'we're happy with this appointment' and 'we should be heading in the right direction with Klopp in charge'. Utterly mental reactions, I agree.
Edit: Oh, John already covered this. Now, 7om will say we're seething.
No need to get all defensive lads.
I don't really understand what's happening here. Are you pretending that Tom is specifically criticising the TTH Liverpool contingent or that Liverpool fandom doesn't exist outside this board?
Liverpool certainly haven't this year.
If there hasn't been a single televised Liverpool supporter saying they'll win the league with Danny Ings tucking forty goals away I'll be very surprised. Those are the mental Liverpool fans. Christ, if Taz was here he'd be saying the same thing.
You two, CJ and JA, are mental in the Kiz, 'how very dare you' sort of way.
Well Luca and Tom seem to be referring to the Liverpool-supporting posters in this thread. I couldn't care less what people think of Liverpool fans in general. They're no more mental than any other set of fans, really.
Yes they are.
I meant the way they see the transfer market. If we want to improve from 5-6th place irrelevancy, we need to stop bulk buying promising youth and start properly shelling out on a player closer to the finished article.
You could argue we have tried, but then who had the say on this? For all we know Rodgers could have targeted all the players he signed. Or alternatively it was none of them and the committee made the signings. To get back into the top 4 we need to buy 2-3 players per season to improve the first team, not just bulk out the squad and we need the manager being the one in control. We've seen many times previously, a single person being in charge of it is good. Even a director of football would be better because then we know who is accountable. For now there's 4-5+ people on this committee and we have no idea who has which role in it.
*Don
EDIT: Which "finished article" is going to go to Liverpool who as a) going to make a difference and b) going to make such a difference as to be worth the cost?
That's not a dig, just that FSG don't have the inclination, even if they have the wherewithal, to spunk £60m on a £40m player just to stop a better club getting him. I don't see any reason to think they're going to decide they are the issue.
There's something horrible about a league/sport where 5th or 6th out of 20th in the top tier is irrelevant.
(Not a dig at you.)
Fifth in any sport is irrelevant. Alright, it makes you better than Grimsby Town, but so what?
@Ian They have said they are constantly learning having basically known nothing of football before they took over. Who knows, maybe Klopp can attract these kinds of players.
Don't get me wrong, I like us not being a debt ridden mess. It just feels a lot like playing it safe. Well at least until we got to Sunday.
Klopp is the perfect man to have at the head of a system which signs youth in bulk and relies on improving them. He wasn't buying his own players at Dortmund, so there's no reason to think he's going to be plucking the next Lewandowski out of obscurity (and he only signed for Dortmund because of that 'l' heavy volcano in Iceland), so the only obviously transferable skill from his time at Dortmund is his ability to bring on young players.
That falls firmly into the "Well they're going to say that, aren't they?" category.
Has there been an example of an owner or group of owners at a reasonably-sized club who has radically changed their thinking based on their own failures?
Wut?
He was heading for Blackburn until that volcano went off and stopped people flying.
Get it right: Big Sam's Blackburn.
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