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    Isn't City's first game of the season at Spurs? Hopefully some proto-legend ends him and they build a statue in his honour. What's Davinson Sanchez up to these days?

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    Get 'Arry to slip Sandro £5k for the occasion with a 'tackle to kill' licence.

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    Imagine if they get Grealish, too. Mortgage on England to win the next 2 WCs and a Euro inbetween for bants.

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    Spurs are coming like 14th this season. It's good to be back.

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    Did Son ever sign that new deal they shoved in front of him?

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    Nope.

    Expires June 2023.

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    I'd completely missed Norwich signing Rashica, wasn't he highly rated at one point (maybe he still is)?

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    I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but Kane to City is a long way from done and there's sources this morning saying the news has "taken Spurs and Man City by surprise". It's just paper talk. Probably Kanes agent.

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    I did wonder why the Beeb weren’t going with it.

    At £400k a week for him a total deal being worth £160m doesn’t sound like enough either.

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    That news taking them by surprise is clearly bollocks because a player plus cash deal for Kane was being touted during the Euro group games.

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    It would take them by surprise if nothing has happened and there's a sudden explosion of news about it being done.

    Time will tell. If Spurs start signing a load of players, then we'll know it's done.

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    I find it implausible that City would spend that much on Kane at this stage. The window has passed for him and I imagine he's seething.

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    I can't see it happening either, if City had sold a couple of fringe players for big money then it would have been more possible. People like Laporte, Silva or Mendy could have been sold to fund a chunk of the fee if they were really desperate to get Kane.

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    This is his Gerrard to Chelsea moment, but he'll never get the night in Istanbul.

    It's genuinely a bit shit for him, but he knew what he was doing when he signed the contract. It's not like Spurs weren't already shit at that point.

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    Should have negotiated in some sort of release fee, he held all the negotiating power when he signed that contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post

    It's genuinely a bit shit for him, but he knew what he was doing when he signed the contract. It's not like Spurs weren't already shit at that point.
    His agent(who is his brother) needs shooting at this point for letting him sign that contract. It's absolutely fucking mental and it's not even as if it paid him that well for his value at the time.

    Personally I don't understand why if City are talking that level of money for a striker they aren't looking at Mbappe or Haaland there is far more value in those two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    At £400k a week for him a total deal being worth £160m doesn’t sound like enough either.
    Yeah, I really hate how this 'total deal' number found by adding up 5 years of wages and bonuses on top of the transfer fee is becoming the norm now. That methodology puts that fee at around £50-60m, which is obviously miles short of what Levy would want. £160m with the wages on top would be lolworthy though, make it happen.

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    The Kane story from last night was broken by the showbiz editor at the Sun who claims to have overheard Kane's agent/brother talking about it at his wedding. Nobody particularly reliable seems to have got on it and Ornstein has said this morning that the most likely outcome is Kane stays at Tottenham.

    Son has signed the new contract.
    Last edited by randomlegend; 23-07-2021 at 09:27 AM.

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    There's a lot of talk of Bernardo Silva going to fund deals. The Athletic say he has wanted out since 2020. Quite an odd time he has had at City - clearly an ultra-talented player complete with exceptional workrate, but rarely a guaranteed starter and often goes relatively unnoticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    There's a lot of talk of Bernardo Silva going to fund deals. The Athletic say he has wanted out since 2020. Quite an odd time he has had at City - clearly an ultra-talented player complete with exceptional workrate, but rarely a guaranteed starter and often goes relatively unnoticed.
    He was so good in the season KdB was injured and City got the record points total. Feel he's dropped off a fair bit since. Last season he seemed like he was just there for his work rate.

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    if Man City want him the money will be no problem. Levy would want £150m at least I should imagine, but does money in football matter at all these days?

    I don't know how it would work within our game and it brings its own problems (the grubby exploitation of children, but I guess football does that anyway), but the American draft system is much better for so many reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    if Man City want him the money will be no problem. Levy would want £150m at least I should imagine, but does money in football matter at all these days?
    I don't believe that. City have never paid anything even remotely close to that for one player and I don't think they'll start. They buy lots of 50-60m players but blowing 150 on one just isn't their game.

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    But they clearly have the money and could if Pep pushes it. The days of net-spend being a thing are long gone.

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    Of course they could, they've just shown that it's not the way they operate. They could absolutely suddenly change that but I don't think they will (the noises coming out this morning are that City are saying they'd never spend that on one player).

    It's not about net spend; they'd have no bother spending 150m on three 50m players.

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    Some things:

    Why would the noises coming out of City be anything other than "we're not fucking paying that much"
    Just because they haven't before doesn't mean they won't
    They don't need anymore £50m players at this moment in time
    If the right player comes along (I don't think he is, but who knows what Pep thinks) then I absolutely believe they would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Some things:

    Why would the noises coming out of City be anything other than "we're not fucking paying that much"
    Just because they haven't before doesn't mean they won't
    They don't need anymore £50m players at this moment in time
    If the right player comes along (I don't think he is, but who knows what Pep thinks) then I absolutely believe they would.
    Pep doesn't seem to get his own way on transfers at City. He absolutely wanted Maguire/Sanchez/Fred but all were deemed too expensive and he was told no.

    I could obviously be wrong, we'll see, but I just don't believe they'll suddenly change their way of operating like that. There's a reason they've stuck to it ever since the money came in. It has a big impact on your future transfer activity if you start blowing lol sums on single players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    He absolutely wanted Maguire/Sanchez/Fred
    Take that, Pep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Emia View Post

    Personally I don't understand why if City are talking that level of money for a striker they aren't looking at Mbappe or Haaland there is far more value in those two.
    Cos Haaland and Mbappe are boyhood Chelsea/Liverpool fans respectively. (Although I would rather have Haaland at Liverpool, than Mbappe)
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Take that, Pep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Pep doesn't seem to get his own way on transfers at City. He absolutely wanted Maguire/Sanchez/Fred but all were deemed too expensive and he was told no.

    I could obviously be wrong, we'll see, but I just don't believe they'll suddenly change their way of operating like that. There's a reason they've stuck to it ever since the money came in. It has a big impact on your future transfer activity if you start blowing lol sums on single players.
    Do you think they'd have spunked £x00m on a prime Messi?

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    City are backed by the kind of money where they could have triggered Messi's release clause when it was 300m euros and they never tried it. So no I don't think they would. I think people underestimate the long-term impact making those kinds of transfers has on your future transfer dealings.

    In other news, Utd have FINALLY confirmed Sancho:


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    I'm firmly in Jim's camp with what's going to happen there...

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    Nah. He's brilliant. Third best young player behind Mbappe and Haaland. He's going to smash it.

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    I wonder what price he’ll be on FPL. 9.5?

    Also Foden > Sancho
    I'm a twit

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    And it starts.

    To clarify, I think he'll be good, but nowhere near as good as is seemingly expected.

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    Well that's not what Jim thinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Well that's not what Jim thinks.
    Jim, can you sort this please.

    Kthxbye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I fear you and similarly minded United fans are in for a rude awakening when he is inevitably a hot and cold inconsistent bastard like the rest of them. German football is very, very weak.
    Perhaps I've overstated Jim's position, but I'm sure he called him a "piss and wind merchant" or similar in the past.

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    So Jim did say the same as me then. Told you lads, back to 100%.

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    Pints of RL's tears for us all when he struggles to even get double-figures. Putting him in the elite bracket when he can't even get ahead of Saka

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    Yeah Gareth Southgate is an excellent barometer of talent.

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    I'm pegging him at Anthony Martial levels. Good at times, shit at other times. If he's consistently better than that, then well done him.

    Anthony Martial would do bits in the Bundesliga, fwiw.

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    I’ve just copped his name isn’t Jordan.

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    He's going to don you all absolutely senseless.

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    Listen brah, we've been here before. Angel Gomes was the real deal, Pellistri was brought in for the first team, Bruno Fernandes isn't shit, these are the result of following reddit pages instead of watching the game. Stick to fudgepacking, please.

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    That United tweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Yeah Gareth Southgate is an excellent barometer of talent.
    Bet he doesn't even get his opinions off twitter and reddit.

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    I don't have twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I'm pegging him at Anthony Martial levels. Good at times, shit at other times. If he's consistently better than that, then well done him.

    Anthony Martial would do bits in the Bundesliga, fwiw.
    It would be lovely if someone over there bought him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    That United tweet.
    He doesn't have the sort of United connections to justify that theme does he?

    'WELCOME TO [GREATER] MANCHESTER'

    Speaking of which, if Paulp Ogba is being farmed out to the farmers' league I would be up for a CHEEKY Bernado Silva bid. He can join Cavani on the racist bench.

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