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    Oh are they things he's infamous for rather than bringing the truth about as he appears to be on a mission to do here?

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    Nah, he is one of the most solid politicians out there.

    He is mostly infamous (or famous, depending who you ask I guess) for being against abortion.

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    He's a fucking idiot going off that video, but I have heard his name pop up before as some sort of libertarian hero.

    Like to think that's Mert sat behind him in the glasses.

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    Honestly, he might be one of the best politicians I've ever seen. So rarely do they explain things this clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    He's a fucking idiot going off that video
    Why? Fauci seemed to utterly avoid and obscure the question and point to me. Which appears to be that the US were funding Wuhan, while knowing what they were doing and are now lying about it.

    That isn't cool.

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    Is he? Isn't he just saying that there is a technical difference between what Senator Paul understands a specific scientific term to mean, and what trained actual science people understand it to mean?

    My completely uninformed view would be that various/many governments provide funding for cutting edge research at various/many specialist centres the world over and cherry-picking something to fit an entirely different agenda is a bit off.

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    He cites at least one other expert (admittedly I have no idea of their credentials) who states Wuhan were doing Gain of Function research and Fauci then turns the point to say that the paper showed no link between that and COVID-19, which struck me as disingenuous and a deliberate attempt to obfuscate the conversation as that wasn't what Paul was asserting.

    As an aside, I've just watched one of his videos on abortion and while I completely disagree with him, my God is he coherent with his argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Is he? Isn't he just saying that there is a technical difference between what Senator Paul understands a specific scientific term to mean, and what trained actual science people understand it to mean?

    My completely uninformed view would be that various/many governments provide funding for cutting edge research at various/many specialist centres the world over and cherry-picking something to fit an entirely different agenda is a bit off.
    Exactly this. Paul is grandstanding for his audience.

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    Rand Paul is a twat who never actually finishes anything.

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    Rand Paul is absolute scum. The neighbour who beat him up so badly he was hospitalised for weeks should have got a medal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I'm no scientist, I'm Yevrah.
    Truly.

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    If someone would like to explain how Wuhan weren't conducting Gain of Function research then you have the floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    He cites at least one other expert (admittedly I have no idea of their credentials) who states Wuhan were doing Gain of Function research and Fauci then turns the point to say that the paper showed no link between that and COVID-19, which struck me as disingenuous and a deliberate attempt to obfuscate the conversation as that wasn't what Paul was asserting.

    As an aside, I've just watched one of his videos on abortion and while I completely disagree with him, my God is he coherent with his argument.
    Paul implies the link between between gain of function research and viruses with “pandemic potential” on his opening piece. He knows exactly what he’s doing in my opinion.

    As an aside, the NIH are balls deep in research all over the world. They’ll find anything and everything that is cutting edge so it’s no surprise they get caught up in some shit every now and then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post
    Paul implies the link between between gain of function research and viruses with “pandemic potential” on his opening piece. He knows exactly what he’s doing in my opinion.

    As an aside, the NIH are balls deep in research all over the world. They’ll find anything and everything that is cutting edge so it’s no surprise they get caught up in some shit every now and then.
    7om, I have to say, you are a tour de force in this thread. You explain science to people in exactly the way it should be.

    As for your second line, I don't doubt it. I just think one of the public faces of science possibly lying about it is really quite dangerous if he did. It's giving people who're genuinely anti-science ammunition.

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    It is definitely Rand Paul who first brought up COVID. Then Fauci focused on that instead on whether funding for gain of function research was given or not.

    Zom is right that the NIH will definitely be involved in some shady stuff. You can't control everything that happens. Still, if funding for a certain type of research was halted and that research was still being conducted under NIH funding, then asking questions is fair.

    All in all, it is a non-story imo.

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    You can also go on the 'good science' list I'm compiling Pep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    7om, I have to say, you are a tour de force in this thread. You explain science to people in exactly the way it should be.

    As for your second line, I don't doubt it. I just think one of the public faces of science possibly lying about it is really quite dangerous if he did. It's giving people who're genuinely anti-science ammunition.
    Cheers mate, appreciate it.

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    I wish I was on Yev's list.

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    Chin up, you're on my nonce list.

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    Turns out I have the rona. I'd better get cracking on the Webly Memorial WDYTOE List before I croak it.

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    Did you get the vaccine?

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    I've had one dose so far. Second one's due in... three weeks or something.

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    Vaccine a scam confirmed.

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    Sorry for giving you guys it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    I've had one dose so far. Second one's due in... three weeks or something.
    You'd be fully covered had you stole that guys life.

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    Jesus. It really is widerife. I thought it was particularly bad here because of all the students rightly having fun but it’s fucking everywhere, isn’t it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Sorry for giving you guys it.
    How are you feeling now?

    And for that matter how are you Ian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    You'd be fully covered had you stole that guys life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Jesus. It really is widerife. I thought it was particularly bad here because of all the students rightly having fun but it’s fucking everywhere, isn’t it.
    The speed Delta moves at is pretty impressive honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    You'd be fully covered had you stole that guys life.
    This has gone way over my head. Does the rona also give you the 'mentia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    And for that matter how are you Ian?
    It mostly just feels like a slightly manky cold. If it weren't for the fact that I was sweating like a motherfucker in bed with a fan on me all night I might not even have thought anything of it.

    High temperature (even for the weather), slightly congested chest, bit headachey.

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    You had a chance to get the vaccine early, but you BOTTLED it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    The speed Delta moves at is pretty impressive honestly.
    Those Indians do not fuck about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    This has gone way over my head. Does the rona also give you the 'mentia?
    Given my complete mental block on watching The Witcher, quite possibly.

    You got that text message intended for some other fella inviting you/him to book a vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Given my complete mental block on watching The Witcher, quite possibly.

    You got that text message intended for some other fella inviting you/him to book a vaccine.
    Oh.

    Damn it. So what you're saying is this fucker has MADE me catch COVID? Well I know his name and his GP so I'm gonna hunt him down and give him it right back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Oh.

    Damn it. So what you're saying is this fucker has MADE me catch COVID? Well I know his name and his GP so I'm gonna hunt him down and give him it right back.
    Phone his GP and get him booked in for a prostate exam.

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    ONS antibody study

    This seems like extremely good news. Cases levelled off as well. If it's not good news then I might suggest we are fucked.

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    It is and yet we're still pushing vaccines through means of bribery.

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    Fuck off with your good news, I've just announced my impending death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Phone his GP and get him booked in for a prostate exam.
    "I put my hamster up there and I'm worried he's eating it for sustenance."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    This has gone way over my head. Does the rona also give you the 'mentia?



    It mostly just feels like a slightly manky cold. If it weren't for the fact that I was sweating like a motherfucker in bed with a fan on me all night I might not even have thought anything of it.

    High temperature (even for the weather), slightly congested chest, bit headachey.
    I bought an oximeter the other day just to keep an eye on my oxygen levels. Pretty cheap from Amazon if you're at all concerned.

    Personally I've started to feel more normal on day 4 of being positive so hopefully it keeps going that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    ONS antibody study

    This seems like extremely good news. Cases levelled off as well. If it's not good news then I might suggest we are fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    ONS antibody study

    This seems like extremely good news. Cases levelled off as well. If it's not good news then I might suggest we are fucked.
    I heard on the radio with the cases levelling off that it was because of how much was open and what we were allowed to do the case levels we were seeing were about as high as they would have expected it to get. The next test is a week from today once the last of the restrictions have been removed where that leaves us as they expect there to be another bounce upwards then.

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    But they expected 100k per day and 1k deaths by now

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    Keeks, any COVID toe fuckery?

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    I think the fair graph comparison from wave 2 would be around 800-900 deaths a day at the moment (we're probably a week or so away from peak deaths due to lag etc).

    In other news, I was going to say hats off to President Biscuit but it seems that quite awesome quote that he's been attributed with may be a bit of the old fake stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    But they expected 100k per day and 1k deaths by now
    They never said anything about 1k deaths per day at this point. I think even the biggest retard could work out that at 100k cases per day you’d probably be looking at somewhere around 200 deaths a day just based on the numbers at the minute.

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    The latest graph I saw looks pretty alarming to be fair.

    Toggle Spoiler


    Stay safe, everyone.

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    I call dibs on Webly's Steam library if he snuffs it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Keeks, any COVID toe fuckery?
    The wife's got a sore toe but I don't think it was because of my covid. What's the story?

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