To the extent that that is a thing [which, let's be honest, it isn't, life is pretty much the same] then it is no more down to the venerable chrome dome in the Kremlin than it is to the West's general approach to things and perhaps particularly the [German led] attempts at rapprochement with the Russian Federation these past 20 years or whatever it has been, but, you know, carry on.
Badly.Originally Posted by Yevrah
Is it enough for the West to nuke Russia? I'm not convinced.
According to the plan™️
They also aren’t going to nuke anyone.
You guys are very boring when it comes to hypotheticals.
Has he?
Bit of a leap here fellas.
Mobilisation is probably because they're about to annex Kherson, Zaporizhzhia etc. in sham referendums and need some block heads with guns to maintain order. These places are far more Ukrainian than the Russian-heavy cities they previously nicked so no doubt there'll be a lot of internal resistance to the results.
Mobilisation doesn't resolve any of their issues which is they can't actually repel HIMARs which means their supply lines are being disrupted and their forward lines being pushed back.
The issue isn't going to be solved by throwing more (poorly trained) soldiers at it.
I'm not trying to justify it. I just think that's their main reason for doing it.
As Jimmy said, they're quite useless considering.
They can shoot down HIMARS rockets, which is why most of them were being directed into the softer sectors of the front to begin with. The problem is destroying the launchers. This [partial] mobilisation should have been done months ago because they need more men, and not because they have had fifty thousand killed or whatever the pretend number is today. They got zerg rushed by Ukraine the other week, which wouldn't have happened with even badly trained numbers in position, which they will be able to be once it all gets re-designated as Russian territory.
When the cumulative effect of all this bites, he most certainly will have, even if only temporarily. But I can’t see how it won’t be carnage when it does.
Threatening to nuke your neighbours is proper tinpot dictator stuff, Putin trying to do Juche would be pretty lol.
Good god.
Hope the Ukranian maggots taking bullets from those have their tetanus injections.
I don't know why they don't just skip to the part where they call up every man under 50 and send them in with breadknives. Quantity over quality has been the go to Russian strategy for atleast 100 years now.
Lewis will be due to come in here any moment now to say this is normal
Is it the rust or is there something else wrong with them I’m missing? I wouldn’t have the first clue about firearms. Not near as much as all the Twitter experts anyway.
The mobilization videos coming out are truly something. Dudes with Mosins, groups of 40 year olds that look like 60 and are 5 vodka bottles in when being collected, recruitment staff that can't keep anyone's attention for even a second.
I imagine there's gonna be a lot of "accidents" happening to Russian unit leaders over the coming months.
Yeah I don’t really get it. It’s a video of a gun on the floor. I feel like I’m missing something.
AKM usually aren't rusted up from lack of maintenance.
Fam this is proper war, not some gammom fancy dress excuse for cleaning guns.
I fought on D-Day (Juno Beach) and my AK47 never rusted despite the 16 hour underwater journey to get there. I call bullshit.
I'm no gun expert either, but I imagine anything with moving parts reacts similarly to being covered it rust: poorly.
If it's surface rust then it is no big deal.
The underside of many cars has plenty of brown spots and they run just fine for years.
It's all part of the plan. Move along.
Fake news, those are assault rifles not machine guns.
They ran out of mockbas in his size.
4 in one day is not sustainable, especially losing the pilots as well.
Why do the dirty Ukranians play out the war like this with this tone? Do they need the clicks or are they seeking to push Russians for worse outcomes.
I find the tone of it all a bit sinister. The official accounts obviously have to twerk for their primary audience of retards, but the responders are all absolute freaks. The sort of people who would normally have a panic attack if they heard a bit of casual racism, but they've been told they can have this little xenophobic moment, and they want to be part of something, so we end up with Radio Rwanda.
They're playing the information war and know it embarrasses Russia. It's effective.
Remember when Russia was amazing at information warfare, deciding all of those elections and poisoning politics the world over? Then it just became shit and lame overnight as soon as Western liberals needed it to be. Weird.
As if Russia give a shit about being embarrassed. The Western lense with which this whole thing has been looked through since day 1 is, well, you'd have thought we'd have learnt by now.
And for as absolutely dreadful as they're supposed to be, we're now six months in, the casualties must be horrific (on both sides) and it's showing no signs of stopping, so their uselessness isn't particularly amounting to anything that's going to end this anytime soon. Is this another 'winning the argument' being the most important thing, thing?
So is the logic that embarrassement incites resignation?
Russian uselessness is an odd propaganda device. What do people think has happened to all the stuff we've given Ukraine? Why are they constantly asking for more? If they have really killed a quarter of the entire Russian invasion force (and therefore wounded at least as many again), whilst claiming to have only lost ten thousand of their own, why haven't they won yet? Are they even trying? I'm not paying double electric bills for slackers.
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Both things can be true to differing degrees. The information war is still winning you over for example as you remain a fully committed Putin apologist.
The right becoming Pro-Russia is properly lol.
I'm pro-realism. Eastern Ukraine is irrelevant to this country, and I've yet to hear a sensible argument for impoverishing ourselves over it.
I am more or less with you on that, but I'm not prepared to pretend Russia are anything but a set of useless cunts.
Bar Kherson, the front lines basically divide the majority-Ukrainian and majority-Russian ethnic towns now. Just shake hands and call it off.
Why should concentrations of ethnicity determine which parts of their country Ukraine has to give up by force? You good with the forced deportations and other genocidal practices in Mariupol?
Not at all. But let self-determination come into it. Is it really worth fighting to take back Luhansk and Donetsk if most of them want to be Russia? We all know it’s going to end with concessions, it’s just a matter of when.
Russia going to court for war crimes is a completely separate issue.
Pretty lol to be talking of self-determination in the face of a totalitarian state.
What's the other outcome? Ukraine are never going to take back 100% of their territory so when comes the point that everyone involved stops pouring resources into it?
Edward Snowdon's just got his citizenship. Get in that front line, mate.
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