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    Quote Originally Posted by mo View Post
    Those children are still in school.

    Also on Lee’s point about schools re-opening in June, if it’s possible it’d be worthwhile. Transition visits (y6-7), open days, mock exams for y10/12, etc. Some people (not aimed at anyone) think term 6 is a piss about but if anything it’s often one of the busiest terms.
    Oh they never got around to closing primary schools in the UK?

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    The only students in are kids of key workers or have special needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adramelch View Post
    Unless we're talking about 1 of the badly hit countries (Italy, Spain, France etc), what the rest of Europe is doing is fairly irrelevant since they just handled the virus much better to begin with.
    Did they, or have they just kicked the inevitable down the road?

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    Fucking hot today up in northern Scotland, so it must be tropical in London.

    Wish I had a garden.

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    Surprised to see the skies still this busy.




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    Quote Originally Posted by mo View Post
    Those children are still in school.

    Also on Lee’s point about schools re-opening in June, if it’s possible it’d be worthwhile. Transition visits (y6-7), open days, mock exams for y10/12, etc. Some people (not aimed at anyone) think term 6 is a piss about but if anything it’s often one of the busiest terms.
    Term 6?

    In my day we only had three terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foe View Post
    Fucking hot today up in northern Scotland, so it must be tropical in London.

    Wish I had a garden.
    Shite in Dundee.

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    Yes, but we're talking about the weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foe View Post
    Fucking hot today up in northern Scotland, so it must be tropical in London.

    Wish I had a garden.
    Low twenties here. Its roasting.

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    It's been great all week here. Got a decent tan started.

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    Re more and less hit countries, pretty clear trend towards the bigger and more densely populated nations being worse hit. The more congested number of population centres and people you have to deal with, the harder it is.

    Australia really well set as they have 6 centres with a desert the size of Mars between each one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Term 6?

    In my day we only had three terms.
    Term 6 is surely easy enough to deduce (and less faff to write out than they second half of term 3) though right?

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    The Michaelmas Term, in certain schools.

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    Sun burnt off the clouds. Glorious now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    Oh they never got around to closing primary schools in the UK?
    No those are “closed” as well, but you said about younger kids whose parents are off saving the world - well all those kids (including up 16 year olds) are being baby sat by schools currently (including the Easter holidays but not weekends)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo View Post
    No those are “closed” as well, but you said about younger kids whose parents are off saving the world - well all those kids (including up 16 year olds) are being baby sat by schools currently (including the Easter holidays but not weekends)
    That's smart.

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    I don't really get the idea of schools being one of the first things to reopen, should that be the case. It'll affect hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people.

    I said it before but as soon as schools reopen, social distancing is no longer.

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    They'll open the schools (or at least nurseries and primaries first) because parents can't cope with the work from home / kids at home scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The Michaelmas Term, in certain schools.
    Is that not the first term of the school year?

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    917. Holding steady at another 5,200 positives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Is that not the first term of the school year?
    Correct. I was of course thinking of the 'Trinity Term' which I once saw in a posho place. Michaelmas is at the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    917. Holding steady at another 5,200 positives.
    Tory Britain

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    I'd love to hear an explanation from the twitter experts of what another government would be doing differently and how many deaths that would have prevented. In detail, that is: 'more testing', 'earlier lockdown' and such platitudes are not valid answers.

    Seems like London and the hallowed south east are probably peaking now or have just peaked. Look out the north, you're next.

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    Dundee saved some 98 year old goon or something. We have the best hospital in Britain. We’re good x

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    Everywhere will peak at roughly the same time because the nationwide measures went in at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I'd love to hear an explanation from the twitter experts of what another government would be doing differently and how many deaths that would have prevented. In detail, that is: 'more testing', 'earlier lockdown' and such platitudes are not valid answers.

    Seems like London and the hallowed south east are probably peaking now or have just peaked. Look out the north, you're next.
    Allowing flights in from Spain, Italy and America with no checks is very smart.

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    It's probably also making fuck all real difference.

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    I can also guarantee you that if Jerry C or another Labour PM were presiding over this then, regardless of the number of deaths, you'd have the opposite narrative as Labour supporters would be defending them and Tories would be attacking them for not having done more.

    It's just how lazy prejudices work.

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    I think the main two things a government could do different are how they funded the health system before coronavirus was even a thing and how they deal with the economic crisis aspect of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The Michaelmas Term, in certain schools.
    Michaelmas is the Autumn term no, then Lent, then Trinity?

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    We should move toward a German-style 'privatised' system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    Semi-final results.


    (brackets first leg scores)

    Meanwhile, in the final we all wanted, the BBC has this:

    You may have read in the last half an hour that the US has now overtaken Italy to become the country with the most coronavirus-related deaths worldwide, according to Johns Hopkins University.

    This does not yet appear to be the case.

    It comes down to when figures are reported. As the figures from the US came in first, it seemed that the US had overtaken Italy with 18,860 confirmed deaths. But now new figures have come in from Italy - taking its number well above 19,000, although Johns Hopkins is yet to reflect that in its count.

    All this is complicated further because not all the latest figures are in from the US - so be prepared for the possibility of the US overtaking Italy later on.

    Of course, this is a tragedy for both countries.
    End to end stuff.

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    I love that last sentence

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    I love that it's not necessarily clear if the author considers it a tragedy for both countries due to the deaths themselves or the uncertainty of the competition.

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    Corona Cup Final




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    Another defence Roberto Martinez can't organise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I can also guarantee you that if Jerry C or another Labour PM were presiding over this then, regardless of the number of deaths, you'd have the opposite narrative as Labour supporters would be defending them and Tories would be attacking them for not having done more.

    It's just how lazy prejudices work.
    The tabloids wouldnt be in near Diana levels of hysteria about his health.

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    They would. Think back to when Gordon or Tony Blair were PM, if they were taken into intensive care in the midst of a national crisis everyone would have shat the bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I'd love to hear an explanation from the twitter experts of what another government would be doing differently and how many deaths that would have prevented. In detail, that is: 'more testing', 'earlier lockdown' and such platitudes are not valid answers.

    Seems like London and the hallowed south east are probably peaking now or have just peaked. Look out the north, you're next.

    They are actually valid answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I can also guarantee you that if Jerry C or another Labour PM were presiding over this then, regardless of the number of deaths, you'd have the opposite narrative as Labour supporters would be defending them and Tories would be attacking them for not having done more.

    It's just how lazy prejudices work.
    I've tried to ignore party politics and think the government have done an okay job in difficult circumstances, but the press would be crucifying a Labour government (especially lead by Corbyn) for the same decisions the Tories have made. No doubt whatsoever.

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    'The Labour Party is opposed to the coronavirus, and all other forms of virus...'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bam View Post
    They are actually valid answers.
    They aren't. How would you get hold of more tests, how would you roll them out, who would you test, etc etc. We're not just sitting on two million tests that we can't be bothered to use, are we? There is no detail in the coverage, it's just buzzwords and emotional screaming.

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    The tests thing is a nonsense to some degree.

    What isn't is not locking down quickly enough. We pissed about for ages when it was clear as day what was coming, and actually, I blame SCIENCE just as much as the government on that one.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52258098

    I hope he got a nice tan at least.

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    Our Junior Cert has been cancelled altogether, though it’s irrelevant anyway, and the Leaving Cert pushed to later in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    They aren't. How would you get hold of more tests, how would you roll them out, who would you test, etc etc. We're not just sitting on two million tests that we can't be bothered to use, are we? There is no detail in the coverage, it's just buzzwords and emotional screaming.
    You're asking for details that none of us are in a position to know. But it's the government's job to figure this shit out and they have access to the info that's needed to answer your questions. How are other countries managing it?

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    One thing we could be doing better that other countries are doing is screening incoming flights properly. My idiot cousin had his internet wife from Alabama fly over two weeks ago, into Manchester, train to Barrow, then on her way home got a train to Euston and flew home from Gatwick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52258098

    I hope he got a nice tan at least.
    He's an 18 year old Welsh bloke. He'll be Perma-Orange anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    One thing we could be doing better that other countries are doing is screening incoming flights properly. My idiot cousin had his internet wife from Alabama fly over two weeks ago, into Manchester, train to Barrow, then on her way home got a train to Euston and flew home from Gatwick.
    I keep hearing this stuff, but how much difference do you think it actually makes?

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