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Thread: F1 2020 - Corona Virus Edition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    Depends which alternative fuel you think is 'the future', nobody is buying electric cars in large numbers yet so at the moment hybrids are still more relevant. But, because they were caught being dirty cheaters VW have steered away from any series with even a whiff of ICE.
    That would be covered by concentrating on the electric side of things, since they've pretty much cracked the conventional side of hybridisation by this point.

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    Do teams actually get much road R&D from F1? I thought for the most part it was just the world's most effective billboard.

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    They must be, otherwise why would anyone other than Ferrari and rich tossers have anything to do with it?

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    Lots of stuff has made its way into road cars but it's hard to argue that it wouldn't have gotten there anyway, the benefit is people seeing you make a decent car. The image of Mercedes has changed massively over the last ten years, something which they themselves put down to the success of the F1 program.

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    Plus, if you're going to spend several hundred million on an R&D department you might as well hire a few drivers and get something other than the technology back from it. Mercedes reckon their F1 team is at almost zero actual cost these days so why wouldn't you?

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    I don't think their image has changed except insofar as you can no longer offer bomb-proof reliability as a unique selling point. They always made fast (if not necessarily 'sporty') cars, so they've just followed everybody else in being able to chuck loads more power into most things whilst appealing to a newer (younger?) customer base willing and able to finance things. It's a bit tenuous to connect it directly to their Formula 1 success when it doesn't seem to have any effect on how other brands with shit racing efforts are perceived.

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    Austria confirmed for 5th and 12th July. We're racing, lads. Verstappen to win both.

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    Watching this and Eddie Jordans accent is so weird he veers into sounding like a mixture of Dutch Schteve McClaren and Gunter Steiner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Austria confirmed for 5th and 12th July. We're racing, lads. Verstappen to win both.
    Are they going to race reverse circuit like Gran Turismo?

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    If they did that the dive downhill to a left hand turn 1 at about 300mph would cause deaths / you'd need front rights made out of teflon.

    Reverse Silverstone would be boring enough to work. Reverse Interlagos is the dream, or reverse Monza.

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    I'm going to guess not. That would require a surprising amount of modifications for safety.

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    So as I'm just hitting recomended videos on YouTube this one comes up between Toto and Lewis and I'm not sure whether I'm frustrated with the lack of information or I'd just never understand because I'm a low information observer. They talk about the car like a football player, Lewis is adamant that they weren't sandbagging and they say 'we made some tweaks and Lewis put it into a set-up that we didn't like but it showed the signs of unlocking potential, so we took that to our engineers and drilled down on it'.
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    I'd love to know what they mean there, I play racing video games so I know about suspension adjustment etc. (even if I don't understand it and leave it on normal) but what is going on there?

    edit: Toto says in 2012 their advertising 'real estate' was 70 million and now it's 4.5 billion. To me F1 hasn't grown that much between then and now, I wonder where it comes from.

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    Listened to this while I was mowing the weeds this morning, very interesting especially the last part where Brundle talks about driver input and the most balanced era.


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    Who exactly is he calling out here? Should, say, Max Verstappen be releasing a detailed statement with his thoughts on the subject?

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    I am also a bit wary of black people using this to say "look what we have to deal with!" As if a professor in an elite university (or Lewis Hamilton) have a life that is in any way similar to a poor kid from downtown Chicago.

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    The Projects, Stevenage. He took his go kart to school and all the other kids made fun of him. Especially Nico.

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    Well, Charles Leclerc has put a statement out now so that should shake Donald Trump into action.

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    A serious man for serious times.

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    Confirmed calendar....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Well, Charles Leclerc has put a statement out now so that should shake Donald Trump into action.
    They've all done it now, or loads of them have anyway. It's hilarious how much Hamilton lives in their heads.

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    Sets an interesting precedent, I wonder what will be said next time they go to China or Azerbaijan let alone Saudi in a couple of years.

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    I'm warming to the idea of double-headers. Mainly for the alternative names they're giving them. It's like the old days when you'd get a customary European, Pacific or United States West Grand Prix.

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    Most of those still exist as long as you're willing to believe that Baku is in Europe.

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    'Styrian Grand Prix' is taking the piss a bit. Should have called it '1000 miles of Helmut Marko' or something and done it over 400 laps.

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    It's an easier stretch than Nurburg being in Luxembourg.

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    I hadn't remembered the beginning of 1999 being such a clusterfuck. This is chaos.

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    It went on for the whole race, nobody brought a car that worked properly (apart from Arrows who brought last years), race control sent the safety car out without telling anyone, even Schumacher was at it running through the pits without actually stopping.

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    That was fun. Eddie Irvine's title charge starts now.

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    F1 should have done what NASCAR are doing (and have been for a month) and just gone to circuits a stones throw from all the factories. Thruxton, Mallory, Snetterton, Combe, both layouts of Silverstone, a bonus go round Rockingham, and a night race round the M25 as a finale. We could be almost done by now.

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    Isn't everyone bar Haas and Ferrari based at Silverstone?

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    Only Racing Point, at the old Jordan place I think. The rest are in Oxford, Brackley, Milton Keynes, Banbury etc.

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    The true price of no in-season testing. On an unrelated note, I've started reading Damon Hill's autobiography. I'm looking forward to the 1996 fallout and the early career stuff on bikes.

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    I'm downloading some more races and the newest game I've started playing is Guess the Sponsor.

    The Blu Emu Maximum Pain Relief 500 is pretty self explanatory but I'm eager to find out what the Folds of Hono(u)r 500 is all about. I'm guessing the titular 'folds' are either something flag related or just a giant fat guy.

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    I think it's another 'Salute the Troops' deal.

    Ah, not quite: https://www.foldsofhonor.org/ SCHOLARSHIPS FOR KIDS, AND AMERICA!

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    You can't just look it up Shinners, that's cheating.

    So far I reckon it's the 500 folds around the dead dead eyes of Kyle Busch.

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    Singapore, Japan and Baku are all cancelled. Looks like two races at Hockenheim will happen (I'm baaaack!) and maybe even one at Mugello.

    I'm still all in on Snetterton and Castle Combe.

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    Oooh, Mugello's nice. Not sure about the giant straight, though.

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    Long run to a fairly wide turn one, the start will be carnage.

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    The new Imola layout is just flat from the exit of Rivazza all the way up to Tamburello, take us there please.

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    Imola

    Bit disappointing to see no Suzuka but I wont miss Baku or Singapore really.

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    I totally missed that. It seems so obvious just to plonk a chicane on Tamburello, in retrospect. Oh, today we're getting the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix. The origin of the Vetteljob.
    Last edited by Shindig; 13-06-2020 at 10:11 AM.

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    Shiiii

    He is one of my favorite persons.

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    If he hadn’t bad luck he’d have no luck at all.

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    I think he's trying to see how few body parts you really need to drive a car.

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    His book is a lot of this and it's brilliant.

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    NASCAR driver and most appropriately named man ever, Bubba Wallace, has had a noose left in his garage during the Talladega meeting.

    Nice place Alabama.

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    His black half needs to 3D his white half with a name like Bubba

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    Bubba acounts for 40 of the 47 starts by a black driver in the Cup series. That is still a mental stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Bubba acounts for 40 of the 47 starts by a black driver in the Cup series. That is still a mental stat.
    Is that like Lewis accounting for 250 of the 250 starts by a black driver in F1?

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