User Tag List

View Poll Results: Will Manchester City take it all?

Voters
15. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yeah

    3 20.00%
  • Probably

    3 20.00%
  • Somehow about Liverpool

    7 46.67%
  • Man City will probably go UNBEATEN and just take the league

    2 13.33%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Page 17 of 20 FirstFirst ... 71516171819 ... LastLast
Results 801 to 850 of 980

Thread: August Football: We back bois?

  1. #801
    I used to be funny.
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    21,254
    Mentioned
    41 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Bolton have 14 days. I don't get that. What difference will a further 2 weeks make when the same situation's been going on for months? I guess Bolton's games have actually been going ahead.

  2. #802
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,464
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Bury and Bolton should do a merger. How many shit teams does the outskirts of Manchester need? They could be called Burton (fuck Burton Albion we force them to merge with Derby).

    No room for all this grass roots shit in the BT Sports Era.

    Southend having to merge with West Ham though

  3. #803
    Senior Member Jimmy Floyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    35,302
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Football lives and dies on money-grabbing immorality, if people really think clubs are community clubs then why do they burn all their money paying passers-by to play football for the first team.

    Clubs fall into the hands of people like Steve Dale et al because no sensible businessman would ever, ever buy a football club. They are just money-burning pits.

  4. #804
    I used to be funny.
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    21,254
    Mentioned
    41 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    A lad in the office asked why governments are so ready to bail out banks but not football clubs. I felt too dumbfounded to respond.

  5. #805
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    21,972
    Mentioned
    181 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    As most times when these sort of things come around I have little sympathy. You know your gate receipts, therefore you know what you have to play with. Don’t fill your squad with overpaid (presumably shit in these cases) and you won’t go under.

  6. #806
    Custom User Title phonics's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    18,151
    Mentioned
    118 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    At the end of the day the system is still the issue. He was allowed to buy a club Known to be in trouble for a pound while having to offer no proof that he had money that would actually solve those issues.

    He didn’t overspend on players he just didn’t do anything.

  7. #807
    Webly Ian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    20,654
    Mentioned
    123 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Whoever it was (Wilson, maybe) on Football Weekly the other day was saying that the EFL's checks for Dale when he bought Bury were essentially, "You got money then, yeah?" "Well I've got a line of credit." "Bangin', job done."

    If that's the case then maybe they should bail the club out for letting them be bought by a disinterested charlatan.

  8. #808
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    4,594
    Mentioned
    38 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Responded to a facebook post about it that basically said "Why doesn't United/City bail them out?!" with "Well beyond it being illegal I mean imagine if that became the norm, almost every lower league club would go tits up trying to cheat the system and get up the pyramid."

    To which he responded "Yea but Bayern bailed out Dortmund once."

    Aye, a club that has claimed to have the highest attendance average in world football vs. the 13th most important football club in the greater Manchester county area with a capacity of approx 11,000.

    Mind you I don't know the details of the Bayern Dortmund thing very much but it just seemed like such an odd response I had no idea how to even respond.

  9. #809
    heavy like led Dark Soldier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    4,137
    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It was all down to Day, the chairman before Dale. His 'businesses' basically lived on the spend big now, hope it pays off later kinda bulllshit that drives most things into the ground. He leveraged multiple loans against the club (with particular, fairly large sums of it going to a dodgy as fuck account for 'leveraging fees') to help his other business, then used whatever the fuck was left over to go batshit on wages. Leon fucking Clarke on about 9 grand a week in League Two, along with renting City's old training ground for no apparent reason. Then, obviously, Bury get about 7-10k max per match, unless its a rival. £20-25 a ticket. Running costs, wages, maintenance etc means they were fucked from the second he appeared.

    His businesses collapsed, surprisingly, and he fucked off leaving the club with a fair few million of debt. Dale came in, lolled to fuck at the state of it, appointed Ryan Lowe (club legend) as manager who turned out to be actually fucking good at lower league management and got them promoted. Sold a couple of youngsters for decent sums to PL clubs, sold off Clarke to Sunderland for about 500k, and the debt just hoovered it all up. Dale himself is a shit tier businessman, 42 of his 51 companies have been lioquidated. He had fuck all in cash, and it crashed and burned.

    The EFL has to be held accountable for their process of determining owners, which is basically 'do you have money matey?' - 'aye sure defo pal' - 'its yours lol', but the club has been fucked ever since Day took over. It was inevitable.

  10. #810
    Senior Member randomlegend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    11,308
    Mentioned
    49 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I read that the "42 of his 51 companies have been liquidated" stat is a bit misleading since his whole thing is buying companies on their last legs and trying to turn them round, and it's expected you'd only be successful every now and then.

    I don't know if that's true, obviously

  11. #811
    Senior Member niko_cee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    17,940
    Mentioned
    45 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Most companies are liquidated for thoroughly normal/mundane reasons - ie they are short-term vehicles for achieving some purpose or other.

  12. #812
    Isn't he banned? Baz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    15,017
    Mentioned
    199 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hooray for Bolton.
    I'm a twit

  13. #813
    Won the Old Board Lewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Hull
    Posts
    27,076
    Mentioned
    132 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'm not sure how you would even craft a 'fit and proper person' test that didn't just limit takeovers to people with an actual pile of cash waiting. And they tend to be people who aren't fit and proper at all beyond their ability to pay.

  14. #814
    ram it up your shitpipe Giggles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Kildare
    Posts
    30,456
    Mentioned
    138 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Would have been fun to see Bolton go too but one out of two isn't bad.

  15. #815
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,464
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Bury and Bolton should do a merger. How many shit teams does the outskirts of Manchester need? They could be called Burton (fuck Burton Albion we force them to merge with Derby).

    No room for all this grass roots shit in the BT Sports Era.

    Southend having to merge with West Ham though
    The idiots have missed a trick. I'd have paid £2 for them.

  16. #816
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    1,147
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Would have been fun to see Bolton go too but one out of two isn't bad.
    Well you might still get your wish - they're hardly out of the woods. Could just be prolonging the inevitable.

  17. #817
    Senior Member Gray Fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    14,708
    Mentioned
    98 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Champions League draw shaping up nicely.

    Madrid v PSG
    Spurs v Bayern
    Barca v Dortmund.

  18. #818
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    7,745
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Barca, Dortmund and Inter

  19. #819
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    7,745
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    There are so many preconditions in this draw. Country clash protection, day of the week protection, blue/red protection (side of the draw), conflict protection... Probably more.

  20. #820
    Senior Member Gray Fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    14,708
    Mentioned
    98 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Some of these groups are great on paper.

  21. #821
    Custom User Title phonics's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    18,151
    Mentioned
    118 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Porto being out has meant that Man City slot into the boring group that no one cares about.

  22. #822
    Senior Member Gray Fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    14,708
    Mentioned
    98 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Are both Red Bull teams allowed in one group?

  23. #823
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    7,745
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I see both RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg are in the draw. Wasn't there a UEFA rule about clubs with the same owners not being allowed to compete in the same competition?

  24. #824
    Senior Member Gray Fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    14,708
    Mentioned
    98 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    They could have gone into the same group. I don't think that should really be allowed.

  25. #825
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    7,745
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    Barca, Dortmund and Inter
    The Slavia Prague representatives just laugh and role their eyes as they are drawn as the final team in the group

  26. #826
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    7,745
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    1. Messi
    2. Van Dijk
    3. Ronaldo

    According to the leaks.

  27. #827
    Senior Member Gray Fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    14,708
    Mentioned
    98 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Considering the possibilities there were before the draw, that's gone quite well for all English teams I think.

    Group A: PSG, Real Madrid, Brugge, Galatasaray

    Group B: Bayern, Tottenham, Olympiakos, Red Star Belgrade

    Group C: Man City, Shakhtar Donetsk, Zagreb, Atalanta

    Group D: Juventus, Atletico Madrid, Bayer Leverkusen, Lokomotiv

    Group E: Liverpool, Napoli, Salzburg, Genk

    Group F: Barcelona, Dortmund, Inter Milan, Slavia Prague

    Group G: Zenit, Benfica, Lyon, Leipzig

    Group H: Chelsea, Ajax, Valencia, Lille

  28. #828
    ram it up your shitpipe Giggles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Kildare
    Posts
    30,456
    Mentioned
    138 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The teams seriously need to be cut back in that.

  29. #829
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    2,428
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Barring the last 3 groups that's a complete waste of everyone's time.

  30. #830
    Senior Member Gray Fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    14,708
    Mentioned
    98 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yes Virgil!

    Ballon d'Or next.

  31. #831
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    7,745
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Big Virgil

  32. #832
    ram it up your shitpipe Giggles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Kildare
    Posts
    30,456
    Mentioned
    138 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

  33. #833
    Senior Member SincereTheRebel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    In Wolves
    Posts
    10,628
    Mentioned
    41 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Lads

  34. #834
    Senior Member Bernanke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    2,471
    Mentioned
    18 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    I fully agree Eric.

    Edit: Lol


  35. #835
    Bookie Sir Andy Mahowry's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    40,771
    Mentioned
    105 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    He's like an old computer attempting to write poetry.

  36. #836
    I used to be funny.
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    21,254
    Mentioned
    41 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It probably sounds much nicer in French.

  37. #837
    Fuck like you cook.
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Posts
    2,107
    Mentioned
    28 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Considering the possibilities there were before the draw, that's gone quite well for all English teams I think.

    Group A: PSG, Real Madrid, Brugge, Galatasaray

    Group B: Bayern, Tottenham, Olympiakos, Red Star Belgrade

    Group C: Man City, Shakhtar Donetsk, Zagreb, Atalanta

    Group D: Juventus, Atletico Madrid, Bayer Leverkusen, Lokomotiv

    Group E: Liverpool, Napoli, Salzburg, Genk

    Group F: Barcelona, Dortmund, Inter Milan, Slavia Prague

    Group G: Zenit, Benfica, Lyon, Leipzig

    Group H: Chelsea, Ajax, Valencia, Lille
    It is what it is.

  38. #838
    Senior Member Gray Fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    14,708
    Mentioned
    98 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I wouldn't chuck out Chelsea, Leverkusen or Benfica that easily.

  39. #839
    Senior Member Jimmy Floyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    35,302
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Think we'll get out of that personally. Ajax won't be the same now and Valencia are dogshit. We did need to avoid the bigger teams who would have us for lunch, so a good draw.

  40. #840
    Senior Member niko_cee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    17,940
    Mentioned
    45 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yeah, I was going to say the same. Everyone thinking that's a tough group are basing that on Ajax last season, rather than Ajax of the last 20 years, and without their two best players they're more likely to be the latter. Lille have sold their best player and are Lille, and Valencia are perennially shit (look at the way Arsenal dispatched them last season). All nice, Western European trips as well. Spurs, followed by, probably City are the toughest groups (for English teams), even though City's is a bit of a joke. I have no idea what Genk or Salzburg are like, but I tend to think they'll probably be not that good - haven't Genk lost a few players to the Premier League (Trossard and Wesley?) - I suppose Salzburg could be a banana skin if their Red Bull money has snaffled them a couple of unknown Manés, but that seems unlikely.

  41. #841
    Senior Member mugbull's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    4,228
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    how is Tottenham’s group the hardest? It’s got 2 complete walkover teams in it

  42. #842
    Senior Member niko_cee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    17,940
    Mentioned
    45 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Red Star had a decent record in the group at home last year, even if they aren't that good. Most of the groups are packed with shite so Spurs having a 'giant' in there with them makes it hardest by default - they'll probably come second in it whereas all the others could/should win theirs. It's a fairly favourable draw for all the English teams.

    Unless Chelsea are bobbins.

  43. #843
    Senior Member SincereTheRebel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    In Wolves
    Posts
    10,628
    Mentioned
    41 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Seeds

    Toggle Spoiler



    Europa League draw is at midday. The perfect draw im looking for travelling purposes.

    Roma/Lazio
    APOEL (Cyrprus)
    Wolves
    Trabzonspor (TUR)

  44. #844
    Senior Member Max Power's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Leicester
    Posts
    3,459
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Potential for...

    Wolfsburg
    Wolves
    Wolfsberger

  45. #845
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,464
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Potential for...

    Wolfsburg
    Wolves
    Wolfsberger

  46. #846
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Swansea
    Posts
    3,320
    Mentioned
    118 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    Seeds

    Europa League draw is at midday. The perfect draw im looking for travelling purposes.

    Roma/Lazio
    APOEL (Cyrprus)
    Wolves
    Trabzonspor (TUR)
    Basel is a great place to visit. Found it a much better trip than Roma.

  47. #847
    Senior Member SincereTheRebel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    In Wolves
    Posts
    10,628
    Mentioned
    41 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would like to avoid Kazakstan, Russia and Romania.

  48. #848
    Bookie Sir Andy Mahowry's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    40,771
    Mentioned
    105 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Avoid Ukraine too.

  49. #849
    Senior Member John's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    8,833
    Mentioned
    45 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I've never been for football, but as a general holiday destination Cyprus is crap for anything but a romantic week away. One of the Germans from that pot over Cyprus all day if you're looking at it purely for the trip. Obviously for qualification purposes you take the Cypriots and put nine past them.

  50. #850
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,464
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You've clearly never done Napa fam.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •