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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I think people struggle to get their heads around the lack of deaths caused by Chernobyl and that’s where the Bridge of Death comes in.

    They stood and watched it from close ish proximity? They must be dead now then right?
    There was a quote about it in the epilogue saying they are all dead by now I think?

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    The subtitles didn’t appear on the version I downloaded so I didn’t see that at the time, but there’s apparently no evidence that (m)any of them are dead.

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    If there was enough contamination reaching that bridge by that point everyone would have been wading through it the next morning, which would have done the whole town and any/all visitors in.

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    Still reeling from that torture of GENERIC JAPANESE ASSISTANT 34.

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    There's definitely some artistic license with Chernobyl. Mazin goes into some of them on the podcast but there's other things that get drama-d up.

    - The helicopter crash happened six months after the accident. It was due to a collision with a crane, not radiation.
    - Science woman is a composite of the many scientists that sprang into action in the wake of the disaster.
    - Threats of execution against scientists were uncommon by that time. The series loves to lay that on.
    - Dyatalov's account of a calm control room gets thrown out. As does the legwork he did in the immediate aftermath.
    - Akimov and Dyatalov both reported to the higher ups there was a fire but both had no idea of a blown reactor until later.
    - Dyatalov has always blamed design rather than personnel or the test itself as the problem.

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    This 'When They See Us, mini series thing in Netflix is uncomfortable viewing.

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    Finished a book about Chernobyl and the estimates of Chernobyl deaths are anywhere between 31 (the official count) to 7 figures (Greenpeace). It's one of those hard to directly attribute deaths to due to the longer term impacts and why loads of them croaked not longer after with cancers (huge spike in thyroid cancers).

    The nuclear power plants were unsafe and even with the test, it was a ticking time bomb. Interesting to note the Fukishima power plant have equally dealt with their reactor disaster in a terrible way. Now that's another interesting story to get into.

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    I think the Japanese did about as well as could be expected to say they were lucky the entire plant didn't fall to bits. We had a bit of a scrape in 1957 at Windscale and then lied to the Americans about what happened.

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    My mom is still convinced her brother died due to Chernobyl, in Czechoslovakia. Almost certainly had nothing to do with it but if you count up all these stories from adamant family members I'm sure you could reach into the millions.

    You could do some statistical analysis on cancer death rates over time and arrive at a decent estimate, and I think that's where the 6,000 figure comes from.

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    It's the same with all the nuclear test veterans. Their rates of illness are no different from the rest of the population, and half of those claiming to have seen the flash and the cloud weren't even anywhere near it.

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    Im two episodes in on ’When they see us’ and its complete madness.

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    Munched through episodes 1-3 of Chernobyl. The finale of ep2 with the vicious hum of the geiger counters in the dark was savage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smjffy View Post
    This 'When They See Us, mini series thing in Netflix is uncomfortable viewing.
    EP 4 is the killer. Fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Interesting to note the Fukishima power plant have equally dealt with their reactor disaster in a terrible way. Now that's another interesting story to get into.
    I guess this is the thing with Nuclear reactors though, thats one of the things that gets me with Chernobyl as well - there isn't much precedent to work off. I suppose even much newer and more modern reactors might at some point fail in the world, and if/when they do similar situations of "what the fuck do we actually do now" will present themselves.

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    We send in previously-failed Scottish actors to dig them up. Naked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Merse View Post
    EP 4 is the killer. Fuck.
    I creid during the same episode and also cried during eposide one

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    I creid during the same episode and also cried during eposide one

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    3 main chokers for me.

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    In general, another big ‘fuck off’ to the notion of America as land of the brave etc, though I’ve always said that America simply magnifies a lot of the bad shit across the west and which originates this side of the pond.

    Assume you’ve seen 13? Also by duVerney, a documentary about the justice systems impact on African Americans as a whole, very much an impassioned statement rather than a real study of the subject, but well made and a perfect compliment to this and the (excellent, like everything he touches) Ken Burns documentary on the Central Park attack.

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    Didn't realise they'd made a TV show of What We Do In The Shadows. Only watched the first episode but it's great.

    Also hadn't realised Taskmaster had restarted until the other day. The cast reads like absolute dogshit but - the first episode aside - it's nowhere near as bad as I expected.

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    I watched the first half of the first episode the other day and was struggling to get into it before I fell asleep. I loved the film, so going to persist with it.

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    I found the first couple of episodes less instantly enjoyable than the film. The TV show peaks at Ep 6 & 7 (all I’m up to), both of which are fucking class.

    Some great guest appearances too.

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    @Merse, your three chokes are bang on the money.

    Any similar films/series of that nature? Or any suggestions. Preferably Netflix.

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    Time: The Kalief Browder Story is meant to be good. 13th that Merse was talking about is very good. I watched it after When They See Us.

    I think they're both on Netflix.

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    +2 for the Bowder story, another which features in the 13th.

    The Confession Tapes has just hit series 2 and is also a good watch.

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    Jessica Jones season 3 done.

    It was margionally better than the second season but nowhere near the level of the first season, largely due to the antagonist who just can't compete with Kilgrave.

    It also really dragged in parts and there was too much Hogarth, a character than I really don't care for at all.

    I think I'd place the various series in the following order: Daredevil, Punisher, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and then Iron Fist.

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    Is JJ3 worth bothering with, 'How? Punisher 2 (which I haven't watched yet) sounded good but from what I've read this sounds a bit rubbish and aimless, and given it's going nowhere anyway I'm not convinced there's much point.

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    On th whole 'people in jail for bad reasons' theme, everyone should watch Off The Rails.


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    That seems mad enough to be enjoyable (not really a question of wrongful imprisonment as a question of how the system can deal with such a case surely?)

    Is it on any of the subscriber platforms you know of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Is JJ3 worth bothering with, 'How? Punisher 2 (which I haven't watched yet) sounded good but from what I've read this sounds a bit rubbish and aimless, and given it's going nowhere anyway I'm not convinced there's much point.
    Not really, it doesn't actively add much and there's not going to be another season. There are good bits about it but it's still only mediocre as a whole.

    Punisher 2 on the other hand is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Merse View Post
    That seems mad enough to be enjoyable (not really a question of wrongful imprisonment as a question of how the system can deal with such a case surely?)

    Is it on any of the subscriber platforms you know of?
    It's a truly mad story, they even banned him from being able to work at the MTA museum.

    Apple only sadly. I downloaded it.

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    How ... did he get the uniform? Actually, forget that. It's a hi-vis and an MTA cap.

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    I have been trying to get through Gotham for a while now. I'll take extended breaks from episodes, I'll force myself to watch them, I'll put them on in the background etc etc but I think I'm done.

    I'm near the end of season 4 and Barbara's storyline is so fucking bad. I've also got a problem with the time period, it's very 70s/80s but also very early 00's which just doesn't sit right and bar a few moments they generally can't nail any of the villains as they come across as proper panto shit rather than menacing/evil etc. I really don't know how/why it's so highly rated.

    There have been some decent moments along the way (I actually really liked the last few episodes of season 3 and the first half of season 4) but fuck me there's so much wrong with it and I don't know why I keep trying to finish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    How ... did he get the uniform? Actually, forget that. It's a hi-vis and an MTA cap.
    He would befriend drivers and take over their shifts.

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    30 minutes of Catch-22 and it’s recognisable Clooney fare. I enjoy his schtick so it should bode well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    He would befriend drivers and take over their shifts.
    That's heartwarming. Or extremely manipulative. Depends on the background music, really.

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    4 episodes into Killing Eve. I can see why this has been so popular. Quality stuff from the BBC.

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    There is an hour long interview to go with When They See Us. Korey looks awful.

    https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80200549

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    4 episodes into Killing Eve. I can see why this has been so popular. Quality stuff from the BBC.
    I've started this recently too and just finished the first episode of Season 2. Really enjoying it.

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    Sandra Oh is such a sexless individual. Last few episodes of S2 really let the show down imo.

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    Definitely not as strong as S1, but still very good.

    Just finished The Virtues. Fucking hell, that's harrowing stuff.

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    Season 1 is already requiring a weird suspension of disbelief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Merse View Post
    Definitely not as strong as S1, but still very good.

    Just finished The Virtues. Fucking hell, that's harrowing stuff.
    Harrowing is the word. What a performance by Stephen Graham. Can’t really think of anything better in short form television.

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    I need english subtitles, season one of Narcos links

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    I need english subtitles, season one of Narcos links
    https://www.netflix.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post

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    You've done well to find a torrent of a Netflix show that doesn't have subtitles in sixteen languages included in the file.

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    Watched most of Evil Genius on the flight home. Its fucking good.

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    Saw that a while ago and while I liked it there isn't enough there for the run time.

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    In the actual crime sure but I've liked the roads they've gone down thus far (I'm halfway through episode 3).

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    Been watching No Offence (about to finish series 2) on All 4. Joanna Scanlan is brilliant in it (still weird seeing Terri running the show but whatevs) and it’s produced by Paul Abbott so has a very ‘Shameless’ feel about it for a police drama.

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