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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    It does appear that we may have a developing situation.
    Less so now.

    His second shot on the 7th has really rattled him.

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    He was a bit unlucky on 9. Think -2 will place so hopefully he can hold on for that.

    The tournament is magnificent theatre. Quite want Phil to win even though he's a massive twat.

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    Fingers crossed!

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    Streelman

    Fucked in on 17.

    I get a dead heat place which has cost me about £60.

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    Only part of a place in the end. Disappointing but covers most of the others. Annoyed only to get that, poor weekends for Spieth and Hovland. My workings were good but just landed on the wrong players, it's ended up more linksy than anticipated.

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    Charles Schwab Championship

    After a great golfing but quite an annoying betting week at the PGA (salvaged somewhat by a Streelman part-place) it's back to the regular events and we are back to Texas for the umpteenth time this season for the Charles Schwab at Colonial. Colonial is quite a nice test of a course, and like many tour venues, has its own 'hard stretch of holes' gimmick - we've already had the Snakepit and the Bear Trap and the Green Mile, and this week it's the worst name of them all, the Horrible Horseshoe. This is another example of what they call a 'second shot golf course', i.e. bombing it off the tee is less important and precise iron play will bring you home. As such we're on a selection of nudgers this week, some of whom have been computer heroes already this year.

    Conners 25/1
    Harman 35/1
    Kirk 60/1
    Kim 66/1
    Thompson 175/1
    Whaley 200/1

    Made in Himmerland

    This has previously been the 'Made in Denmark' but they seem to have narrowed it down this year - to all intents and purposes, this is the Danish Open. It's only been around for a few years but has already had some good winners including Pieters, Wallace and Wiesberger. The latter appears in a decent enough field also including young local hero Rasmus Hojgaard. I find this one quite difficult to read so sticking to the numbers, which churn out some mainly speculative punts including a trio of Aussies and also, curiously, David Drysdale, a 46 year old Scot who is the only man with a longer losing streak (523 events) than Richard Bland who finally bagged on his 478th attempt last time out.

    Scrivener 50/1
    Antcliff 100/1
    Ormsby 125/1
    Shinkwin 125/1
    Simsby 300/1
    Drysdale 400/1

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    This is the one.

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    Probably the best 45 second interview in the history of sport (they will be Ryder Cup team mates also which is, yeah).

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    Europe NAP
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    I have a long term position backing Europe. Currently 6/4, if it gets any better I'll be adding more. Stricker is useless and USA are going to implode.

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    Hungary to be the lowest scoring team at the Euros at 5/1 (bet365) when they’ve France, Portugal and Germany in their group is a free paycheque.

    Just gotta hope Scotland knock a few past Pickford.
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    Scrivener looking good in Denmark although the leaderboard is very crowded at the top right now.

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    Scriv T3 will break us even or slightly better in that event, looking a bit sketchy at Colonial unless Harman or Conners gets on a real run.

    If Conners could putt, my word, what a player he would be.

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    Harman is shitting his pants.

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    Eventually got a sliver of a part place for Harman, overall the week returned 13pts from 20 which isn't great but have had worse.

    A somewhat odd golf week this week as the European event in Germany is, by dint of their stupid covid rules, having to take place as a three-dayer from Sat to Mon. As such in a break from the usual format I have just one tip for that and also one bonus tip for the US Women's Open. The PGA tour event I'm tipping up normally as below.

    Memorial Tournament

    The Tour finally moves north this week to Ohio, and it's the latest edition of the event hosted by Jack Nicklaus. Much like the Arnold Palmer event in Florida, it's a bit of a sickening two fingers down throat fest as they all spend the week telling 'Jack' how great he - one of sport's most arrogant men - is. The golf, however, is usually very good on what is a real challenging test of a course. They have also renovated it for this year which should make it even better. The field is very strong indeed, with more of the world's top 10 playing than not. Rahm is the defending champion but he's not been at it this calendar year, except for those place runs from nowhere on Sundays. Instead I'm siding with a quintet of Americans led by one of the top young guns.

    Morikawa 16/1
    Scheffler 40/1
    Cink 100/1
    Gooch 110/1
    Ghim 125/1

    European Open

    The computer has very few models for a three day event, but it knows that this course demands length and plenty of it. As well as this there are US Open places up for grabs. As such there is only one pick for me: Poland's Adrian Meronk, third in strokes gained off the tee on the European Tour for whom virtually any decent finish will make him the first Pole to qualify for a major championship.

    Meronk 35/1

    US Women's Open

    Jin Young Ko 10/1 on the nose

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    Will you be dipping into the Euros this tournament Jimmy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Hungary to be the lowest scoring team at the Euros at 5/1 (bet365) when they’ve France, Portugal and Germany in their group is a free paycheque.

    Just gotta hope Scotland knock a few past Pickford.
    Hungary star Szoboszlai misses Euro 2020 with injury

    ALL ABOARD!
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    Doubt the magic Magyars at your peril. They are toppling Germany.

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    There's your bet, Pleb. Hungary to be the highest scoring team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pleb View Post
    Will you be dipping into the Euros this tournament Jimmy?
    Maybe for fun but not with any knowledge, I only have anything more than joe pleb on golf (and maybe cricket).

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    Fucksake, had the dreaded “account limited” email from Bet365.

    Tried to bet £2.50 EW on golf and they said I could bet 40p.

    I’ve been told it’s a badge of honour but it doesn’t feel like it. End of an era.

    Apparently Coral and Ladbrokes do Best Odds Guaranteed (BOG) the night before races so might try them. Boylesports and Sportingbet do too but, er, who are they. Don’t fancy giving them thousands of pounds.
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    Just make a new account using your wife, parents or Mike's details.

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    Such bullshit that. As if the exposure to a fucking £2.50 bet is so much that they'd fold. Absolute thieves.

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    Skybet have seemingly failed to add the word 'each' to the end of an 'Immobile, Kane and Morata to score 5+' bet at 200/1. Worth getting on in case they don't void.

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    Do you follow any popular tipsters Baz? I can't see why they'd do you for stakes that small otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    Do you follow any popular tipsters Baz? I can't see why they'd do you for stakes that small otherwise.
    I only do small stakes for golf, but yeah I follow a tipster although he only has 155 members. Truth be told I went from £10 a point to £100 a point on 1st June. Was 3.5k up since January 1st and figured I could realistically be £35k up between now and Christmas, so decided to up it.

    I’ve now withdrawn “30 points” from 365 and deposited 20 to Ladbrokes, so will see how long my account lasts. I usually back around 8 horses a day for between 10-30 points.
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    No wonder then. My golfers are on about 85% profit I think at the moment but I've only taken out about a thousand this year as the stakes are small.

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    Three grand profit is often about the tipping point on a 365 so that makes sense. You're best off shopping around as much as possible if you can be bothered keeping track of it all, will get you the best odds and also preserve your accounts. Definitely use the exchanges where possible as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Skybet have seemingly failed to add the word 'each' to the end of an 'Immobile, Kane and Morata to score 5+' bet at 200/1. Worth getting on in case they don't void.
    Excellent shout.

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    More chance of them scoring 5 each than Sky paying out on that rick.
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    They have edited the bet to say each after it was struck.

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    Sky credited all affected bets with a free bet equal to the stake after amending the bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    I’ve now withdrawn “30 points” from 365 and deposited 20 to Ladbrokes, so will see how long my account lasts.
    It lasted less than a day.

    Some lad from my tipster group works for Ladbrokes/Coral (same company, apparently) and said he could look into what they restricted me for. Quite interesting really:

    Trying to stake 2 points on a 6/1 got my account flagged saying 'showing price awareness' but it didn't even bloody win! It's now limited to 30% so I can only stake where the winnings would be 30% of what a clean account could win. I tried to bet on Prosperous Village tomorrow, and a clean account will be allowed to stake anything upto what returns £2000, whereas my max stake will be whatever returns £600. And because Ladbrokes and Coral are the same, and I used the same username, both got limited. Bit of a con, that.

    Every bet I placed yesterday went for "review" but finally went through. Then todays bets went for review and then the traders offered me 40% stake at SP. No thanks! Weirdly they let me put a 4 pointer on without any review, so hopefully that wins as one last fuck you to Ladbrokes. Managed to get the others on, for proper odds with Sky and Paddy Power but they're serious long-term accounts and I'd hate for them to get limited, especially Sky, so don't really want to use them as part of my staking plan.

    I'm trying William Hill now. I had to chat to them to "verify" my account the other day cos they were offering 33/1 for Ronaldo to join Miami and they let me have a whopping £15.15 on it. But then earlier they let me stake 2 points on an 11/8 shot tomorrow, so gonna smash them from Sunday onwards. Any bets on how long my account lasts?

    Maybe I should go to £50 a point and lower my £35k by Christmas dream.
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    That sort of stuff is actually quite scandalous and should probably see the industry just shut down (more than all the 'oh but the poor idiots gambling all their money away' shite). If they want to operate like an underworld racket, then at least have the good grace to do so from the shadows.

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    Absolutely - they're absolute crooks who limit any sort of loss but encourage mug punters to go and bet on loss-makers like accas. Fuck the lot of them.

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    If Baron Samedi doesn’t win this American race at 10:48 I’ll reconsider the rest of my months betting. Everything points to a landslide. Very nervous though.
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    The whole business model is to attract mug punters. Them not bothering to hire odds compilers any more is pretty much why they're so easy to take money out of.

    Popular bets and obvious misprices will get you limited quicker than anything though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    The whole business model is to attract mug punters. Them not bothering to hire odds compilers any more is pretty much why they're so easy to take money out of.

    Popular bets and obvious misprices will get you limited quicker than anything though.
    Know any bookies that will happily let me bet ten 200 stakes from the off?
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    Betfair exchange.

    Backing ten horses, that others are also backing, for £200 each on a fresh account is an almost guaranteed restriction I would think. Exactly the sort of business they don't want and incredibly easy to spot.

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    So Jon Rahm led by six shots at the Memorial going into the final day, and then suddenly a positive covid test came back. I now have the joint leader at -12 (should be six back) and another three back (should be 9 back).

    I think this is what is known as 'the rub of the green'.

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    Rahm finding new ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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    Serves him right for not winning when you picked him.

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    Why are they touching and hugging him lol. Why was he playing whilst waiting for results. Why does he say ‘not again’. So many questions

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    The gift that keeps on giving.

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    Keep it up Scottie.

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    The Woman in that video reveals the COVID news as if someone had died.

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    Jim Nantz with the funereal tone as well as if there's been a death in the family. Welcome to a sport that never takes itself less than deadly seriously.

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