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    It looks like they are setting up for Punk v MJF for the title.

    Edit: Punks post-show scrum rant was mental.

    Last edited by Queenslander; 05-09-2022 at 06:47 AM.

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    Apparently the Elite guys threatened to walk out in a huff. If any of it is real it's the best thing Punk has done since coming back

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    Well they already nixed a winner-takes-all decider with FTR (which they'd have to lose) so they could play lucha libre with Kenny, so it's on brand.

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    Generally we don't spoiler and run a "don't open the thread if you don't want the results" policy. Maybe if you're posting a leak ahead of a show or something but even then not really.

    I haven't read the full All Out results yet but that Punk / Mox thing seems a bit weird to me.

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    I saw the NXT show which I guess was on early to not clash with AEW, first time I've seen it since it went full kaleidoscope but the Creed team look impressive although one of them has the head structure of a toddler.

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    Just saw Punk’s post-match press conference.

    I don’t even know if it’s a work or a shoot tbh. If it’s a work… who are you working? The 5% of the fan base who actually give a shit about “EVPs” and Colt Cabana? And if it’s a shoot then Punk has sat there, next to the CEO of the company, and shit-talked the executive staff and one of its top baby faces. If it is a shoot, then Tony Khan comes out of this looking terrible. He sat there silent for the whole thing, got shouted down by Punk when he tried to speak up and then asked for one of Punk’s drinks as he walked off. Couldn’t have looked any more weak.

    Not sure what AEW are doing anymore.

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    As a WCW fan, you should know all about working the 1% of internet fans to the bewilderment of everyone else.

    I think they're trying to turn internet rumours into an angle (classic Russo but Tiny Khan seems to love it too) but like you said it's not going to make money.

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    The show being thirteen hours long to cram everybody on the card feels like a tribute act to the worst of WCW/ WWE as well. He needs another voice in the room to give him a steer it sounds to me because reviews make it read like that card proved to be as bloated as it looks.

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    He just needs an actual booker. Obviously not happening but someone like Heyman would make that company must-see overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    As a WCW fan, you should know all about working the 1% of internet fans to the bewilderment of everyone else.

    I think they're trying to turn internet rumours into an angle (classic Russo but Tiny Khan seems to love it too) but like you said it's not going to make money.
    I think my philosophy of pro wrestling is more along the lines of Jim Cornette. I much prefer adherence to kayfabe rather than all this “nudge nudge wink wink” crap that the indies and AEW love doing.

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one. No other entertainment medium would get away with it. You couldn't have Phil Mitchell start calling everyone marks for believing he's really bottled someone in the Vic. It just comes across as pretentious shite.

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    Yep I'm the same. Very occasionally does this approach work. Off the top of my head I can only think of Brian Pillman in 1996 (and to a much lesser degree Juice Robinson quitting NJPW).

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    I’m shocked that CM Punk is a mahoosive knob and a cry baby. Sadly Marky Khan will never get rid.

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    This is why I asked the other week if they see Punk as their top star. I'd imagine he beats everyone in merch sales by quite some way. He tends to be a bit of a dick at the best of times.
    If it were genuine and it came down to choosing Omega or Punk, who would Tony the mark choose?

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    Tony clearly books for his own amusement most of the time so God knows. But Punk is by far the biggest star they've got (Jericho is closest but what can you expect from a 50 year-old in the ring, and Danielson seems to be content jobbing to fucking Yuta and Garcia), so he's worth the headache at this point.

    Jazz Hands Omega clearly isn't as popular outside of his niche as they might have expected he'd be, though. I myself thought he'd be a bigger success than he has been but he started buying into his own hype when he got the IWGP title (he was tremendous in the two year chase before that) and AEW just sent that into overdrive. In an alternate universe, they might have done it correctly.

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    Outside of the IWC and AEWs core fan base far more people will have heard of Punk than Onega, so he's definitely the bigger star in that sense.

    He does also seem to be a total fanny though.

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    Onega > Omega.

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    See, he's such a nobody I couldn't even remember his name.

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    Harpo Marx.

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    The whole time Punk is swearing his head off and slagging off colleagues, his billionaire boss is just sat making Jim Halpert faces. In half that time Vince McMahon would have had him taken out back, battered and then paid him off to not tell anyone.

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    Malakai Black/Tommy End/Aleister Black took a bow and blew a kiss to the crowd after his match.

    This after rumours that he has requested a break/release due to mental health issues.

    HHH, you know what to do...

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    Why? Maybe he wants a break from the business.

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    I'm not sure there's a thing I care less about than what wrestlers think of each other or what they do before/after the show. All Out had some great matches but it's a bit of a mess otherwise, the trios match was superb as was Ishii/Kingston, the womens 4-way title match was good too. The problem is they're trying to do too many things at once, they need to shed some people and then rotate them in and out. They should also clearly be doing more stuff on tv rather than waiting for the PPV, too many matches on this show, the WWE Cardiff thing on Saturday was a much better length even though most of the matches were guff.

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    Hmmm.

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    Is this a heel turn? If it’s real he needs to go.

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    Just like the old days. I'm steadily working my way through all the old Observers and this shit happened every week. Unless it's an angle but Dave doesn't normally report angles.

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    Yeah but not in a beautiful organisation of idealists like Tiny Tony's Top Wrestling Lads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post
    Is this a heel turn? If it’s real he needs to go.
    Kenny? Biting his a proper heel move.

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    Is it biting that I've moaned in here before AEW refs seem to let go about three times a match? Or is it eye gouging? One of those.

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    Fuck thaaaaaat.

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    That's just ridiculous. Maybe you'd talk about doing something like that in a main event on PPV but not fucking random TV. You'd think he'd know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Kenny? Biting his a proper heel move.
    Punk. If he’s started the altercation by swinging at someone (an executive in the company as well) then he would have to go. Would he swing at Triple H and get away with it? Never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Kenny? Biting his a proper heel move.
    The report is written badly. It was Steel who bit Omega.

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    So Kenny and the Bucks rocked up to Punk's room. Punk threw punches and Steel threw a chair and bit someone but Kenny and the Bucks did nothing? Seems a bit suspicious but those three are Dave's contacts in AEW so either this is an angle or a very one-sided report.

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    Angle or shoot, nobody seems to be coming out of it looking well.

    Especially Steel. Who fucking bites somebody?

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    If Steel bit someone, he will be fired (he's a road agent). Which almost guarantees Punk will walk. On the other hand they fire/suspend nobody and it becomes like WCW with the wrestlers running the show. But then Eddie Kingston got suspended for something less serious so then it shows it's one rule for top guys and one rule for everyone else which is extra WCW.

    Dave reckons legal proceedings have begun which would make it being a work less likely because faking police reports can get you in some shit (this is how it came to realisation that the Hogan @ Bash at the Beach ultimately wasn't a work too).

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    One rule for top guys is just wrestling generally. See: the WWE Wellness Policy.

    We'll see whether that's any different with HHH in charge but I'd have my doubts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queenslander View Post
    It looks like they are setting up for Punk v MJF for the title.

    Edit: Punks post-show scrum rant was mental.

    I just watched this.

    15:40 onwards. Tony nodding along with Punk when he's calling out the "EVPs", they're turning heel together!

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    Did Boatman always do a chokeslam? Because the one he did last night was a pretty decent chokeslam.

    Also got a pretty decent pop from the crowd. And HHH had the amazing idea of not making the enormous hench bloke where a shirt (which is still an odd one for Vince, given massive muscular blokes were always what he blew his load for.)

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    For a big fella he's really got himself in good nick too, when he debuted he was all muffin top and nip slips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Did Boatman always do a chokeslam? Because the one he did last night was a pretty decent chokeslam.

    Also got a pretty decent pop from the crowd. And HHH had the amazing idea of not making the enormous hench bloke where a shirt (which is still an odd one for Vince, given massive muscular blokes were always what he blew his load for.)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sNGkjscOeU

    He's done it a few times.

    I don't think it was part of his usual moveset though.

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    Huh, fair enough. I really don't remember him as a chokeslam guy at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by wullie View Post
    For a big fella he's really got himself in good nick too, when he debuted he was all muffin top and nip slips.
    He was in this sort of nick before he left too but Vince still wasn't going for it. Should've rebranded himself Braurk Strowsner, maybe that would have done it for him.

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    I haven't watched RAW yet I hope he's kept his train gimmick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    I haven't watched RAW yet I hope he's kept his train gimmick.

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    At least tell me he's upgraded to ferry.

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    Integrated Transport Hub Strowman.

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    On the Wales show I did notice that Matt Riddle has a special effect of goldfish flying about when he got in the ring so HHH is not getting rid of all the batshit nonsense in one go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    I just watched this.

    15:40 onwards. Tony nodding along with Punk when he's calling out the "EVPs", they're turning heel together!
    Tony is truly pathetic for sitting there during the Cabana stuff at the start.

    Carny Punk is the most cringe bloke in all of pro wrestling IMO.
    Last edited by Queenslander; 06-09-2022 at 10:15 PM.

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    https://411mania.com/wrestling/dlo-b...act-wrestling/

    One step closer to Wullie's dream of another D'Lo European title run.

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    I'm getting my chest protector out of storage, here we go

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