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    Of course they are taking part actively. Lukashenko will be shit scared of sanctions to a greater degree than Putin, because there was already a massive uprising there a couple of years ago.

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    Ooff.


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    Strange that they're bringing attention to it, though. Everyone will be actively looking for Belarussians now, so it'll probably do more harm than good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Why is Tobias Ellwood going around cheering for one with a degree of desperation in his tone? Surely with both forces and political experience he should know better.
    Because he's a dangerous idiot. If these people were in charge we would be too busy re-occupying Afghanistan to be doing anything here.

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    Maybe they should bring him back into Downing Street.

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    Putin shill earning his money.

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    I've just ordered a hand crank radio and torch. #prepper

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    I'm backing up my favourite pornos as hardcopy flip books, just in case.

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    I better see if I still have those iodine tablets they sent out for Sellafield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Only just started reading it but this caught my attention.

    We are already, she said, in the middle of a third World War, whether we’ve fully grasped it or not.
    And in one sentence she's summed up my ham fisted attempts to summarise my feelings across many posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Only just started reading it but this caught my attention.



    And in one sentence she's summed up my ham fisted attempts to summarise my feelings across many posts.
    It really does depend on China. If they decide to stay out of it, then we're good. Russia are no match for Nato whatsoever and they know it.

    If China decide now is the time to take Taiwan, then everything is about to get all kinds of fucked up and we will be begging for the halcyon days of lockdowns and distancing.

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    Trust TTH to make millions just as World War 3 kicks off.

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    Lecture from 2016 and good listening if you lack sympathy with the Russian cause.

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    The Chinese will be facepalming themselves to death over this, because it's woken the West up and given it a free practice run at rapidly uniting and imposing sanctions on a country it's dependent on. The difference with China is that rather than energy it would be a range of consumer goods that we need to wean ourselves off.

    Our office has a strict white/non-white divide on this. The non-whites are all, to a man, 'what about Iraq?'. It's a stupid argument but not really one that can be opposed without being called some form of racist, so I guess they'll have to have it.

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    All my AliExpress stuff better land before China kick.

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    But the Russians love our luxury goods. And the Chinese love our villages. It’s not a world without it.

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    Fiona Hill is a crank who doesn't appear to have heard about the Cold War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Fiona Hill is a crank who doesn't appear to have heard about the Cold War.
    She uses those exact words in the article.

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    She seems to think that the 'rules' were written up after the Second World War, which allows her to miss a lot of stuff out that would otherwise weaken her Hitler/Putin comparison that puts the cart before the horse, despite briefly allude to previous problems with Russia and NATO that would need addressing before moving straight into calling him a nut. The answers about what he plans to do to Ukraine are all over the place because she has to personalise it, and frame it in reference to his state of mind ('Putin watcher'), rather than look at it with any wider strategic sense.

    Political analyst sent mad by the past few years. Many such cases!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Political analyst sent mad by the past few years. Many such cases!
    Sad!

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    Ukraine Heads Have Gone: my brother in law is doing some ultra marathon and my other brother in law (his actual brother) had his car dealership company agree they would share the fundraising link on social media. But now they are not posting anything on social media out of respect for Ukraine.

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    Hold on. Russia [accidentally] bombed a Holocaust memorial. This is serious now.

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    It hadn't occurred to me that big British acts (and Franz Ferdinand) go on Russian tours. I can't imagine thousands of ruskies bopping along to that.

    'Good evening Smolensk!' *those stupid horns they have at football*

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    Wars in the attention seeking social media age are fucking awful.

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    Is "wars were better back in the good old days" the most elderly possible sentiment?

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    Don't worry, lads. I'm not sticking a Ukrainian flag on my profile.

    And yes, 65daysofstatic's Russian tour is off. "We know Putin's aggressive invasion is not what all Russians want ..." If it's another one of their Deconstruction Theory gigs, they've missed nowt.
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    Having a normal one.

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    Russian column near Kyiv hampered by breakdowns


    It's kind of astonishing how, 30 years on from the dissolution of the Union, they're still using the same 40+ year old bollocks. Like a living time capsule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Wars in the attention seeking social media age are fucking awful.
    Also quite dangerous, given the propensity for the narrative to be affected by hysterical/emotional reactions by people who don't know anything, and the ability of basically the whole of Ukraine to scream for a no-fly zone/direct NATO intervention directly down their phones into our awkward faces.

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    I've thought about this as well. BBC's anxiety piece just seems like a very dumb thing to put on the front page.

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    It's Bovid all over again.

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    Borld Bar Bree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    It's Bovid all over again.
    You're not wrong. The media have struck gold twice in a row now getting everyone glued to their product in complete fear. They're making bank and the population are lapping it up. I wonder what's next, because there will need to be something, God forbid people remember what life used to be like.

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    There are times when I get the reality of this and then there are times when the whole thing just feels so unbelievably surreal/what in the actual fuck?

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    We live in a world where everyone is desperate to be first with everything. So desperate they’ll make it up.

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    Most reports are saying it was an ammo depot rather than thermobaric. But then it could be a fake also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    There are times when I get the reality of this and then there are times when the whole thing just feels so unbelievably surreal/what in the actual fuck?
    Indeed. It's a complete mess and I'm struggling to see the end game.

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    I went into my old Covid 2020 era 'consume all the information' mode for a few days, as generally that's how I best make sense of things, but the horror has beaten me right back and I've gone as far as deleting twitter from my phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Indeed. It's a complete mess and I'm struggling to see the end game.
    Me neither, which is why I keep coming back to us going to war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I went into my old Covid 2020 era 'consume all the information' mode for a few days, as generally that's how I best make sense of things, but the horror has beaten me right back and I've gone as far as deleting twitter from my phone.
    Did all roads point to some form of all out war beyond Ukraine and Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I went into my old Covid 2020 era 'consume all the information' mode for a few days, as generally that's how I best make sense of things, but the horror has beaten me right back and I've gone as far as deleting twitter from my phone.
    Exactly that. Some of the stuff I have read or seen the past few days is so depressing and I'm not normally one for being too shaken by these types of things.

    In other news our Eastern European mortgage broker was back in the office today having been back to Latvia last week. She told me 'All Putin is doing is getting the Americans out of Ukraine.' She also told me that life was better when Latvia was part of the Soviet Union. I don't know how many times I have told her if she lived in a communist country like the good old days she wouldn't have a job but she's not having any of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Indeed. It's a complete mess and I'm struggling to see the end game.
    This is it what does he think he is going to achieve? He can take out the government but surely he can't control a country of 50 million people that doesn't want him there? They have already shown they aren't the French and aren't just going to roll over. It could just end up as another forever war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Did all roads point to some form of all out war beyond Ukraine and Russia?
    I don't know where all roads point - probably to Moscow eventually winning the very ugliest of military victories, proving utterly unable to run what's left of Ukraine, and an eventual coup against Putin. I think what may save us from wider war is that western intelligence is light years ahead of the game, and possibly China could pull the plug once the Russian economy collapses in a way that affects them.

    Oh and he'll probably seize Moldova while he's at it.

    Either way, I'm better off devoting my mental energies to happier things.

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    I am right into it all. I come for the analysis, but stay for the #FBPE freaks thinking we've done nothing and calling Boris Johnson out for not wanting a nuclear war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I am right into it all. I come for the analysis, but stay for the #FBPE freaks thinking we've done nothing and calling Boris Johnson out for not wanting a nuclear war.
    The shrillness of that lot is the worst thing. Actually, no, Putin sock puppets are the worst thing. But those are the second worst.

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    The best thing (every cloud) about this has been the deafening silence from the Feminist and Trans community, unified once more in cowardice. Not much protest in the face of this "all men under 65 must stay and fight" rule, is there? What about their equal rights?

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    Just wait til a transwoman gets consripted.

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