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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    It's front and centre on BBC News.

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    I've been away from the UK for a long time, however, this feels like a rather substantial stretch... Is he right?


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    Not quite sure what it is (well, apart from everything but you know what I mean) but she really comes across as vermin. Probably worse than the lot of the rest of them combined.

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    It's a bit of a stretch. Especially when she lost her old job for being too [unofficially] chummy with Israel.

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    Absolute milf.

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    Oh God yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    I've been away from the UK for a long time, however, this feels like a rather substantial stretch... Is he right?

    It's the quickest way to shut people down now. Just say they're attacking Jews. Toby Young accused Phillip Hammond of being an anti-semite the other day for this:


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    Words like control and surrender but North London metropolitan liberal elite sounds oddly specific.

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    Yeah, oddly specific but more specific to either New Labour (founded Islington circa 1996) or the current shitshow labour Leadership of Jez (Islington till he dies), Thornberry (prototypical sneering, Islington seated MP) and, if it's geography you're obsessed with the the honourable member for Harringey.

    It's not a Stamford Hill/Golders Green thang.

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    Thanks for clearing that up. London's just a blob to me with Tottenham in the North and ... nowt else to mind.

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    I'm in the far superior south London liberal metropolitan elite, although it's headed up by Will Self which is a bit of a pity.

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    Patel was born in Islington as well, the complete tosser.

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    Dead link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    Dead link.
    Was that mouthy house speaker fella on TV here last night.

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    So it’s all actually going to happen then.

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    If it's anything more than a slightly less shithouse SELL OUT than the previous attempt I will be surprised.

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    Presumably parliament gets a final say on it and we're back to square one again as, as we know, they don't actually want to leave.

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    You would lol if it turns out to be a half-decent agreement and they still find reasons to vote it down. Presumably doing so would just boost the Conservative poll numbers though, so surely they aren't that stupid.

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    They would and they are.

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    Sounds like the loyalist paras gave the bulldog the go ahead to give it the thumbs up anyway. If that lot are on side then surely it passes?

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    It won't get through Parliament/Lords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    It won't get through Parliament/Lords.
    Weren’t they (and their sympathisers) the only stumbling block the last time? You’d have to assume the deal is better this time round or it wouldn’t be this close at all so if they’re going to go for it what stops it? Or is it all change within the conservatives since May went and Bozo took over?

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    It's no closer than May's deal was yet as the EU had agreed to that too.

    What I'd like to know, but I assume I already know the answer, is is this deal exactly the same as hers + a 7 page amendment to the backstop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Weren’t they (and their sympathisers) the only stumbling block the last time? You’d have to assume the deal is better this time round or it wouldn’t be this close at all so if they’re going to go for it what stops it? Or is it all change within the conservatives since May went and Bozo took over?
    He's doing the same as May did. He's gone to the EU to negotiate a deal. If he gets one agreed then Parliament will have to vote on it just like they did with May's. It would have to be a fucking incredible deal to get Labour and co. on side, and he'd also need his own lot on side. Don't forget how convincingly May's deal lost.

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    I'm seeing things here saying that this deal Boris Johnson is crowing about is basically just something the EA offered in the first place anyway. Is that accurate?

    If so then it's about time the Ed Woodward school of negotiating found its way into politics.

    Now for it to get voted down.

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    I’d love to know how it differs from May’s deal.

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    Labour will vote down any deal, they are desperate for a no deal exit. It could be saved if there are rebels though.

    You could see Jezza getting very nervous last week when a second referendum was talked up, that is his worst nightmare.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 17-10-2019 at 10:32 AM.

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    I still don't think it's a particularly great DEAL, but getting anything out of them is something of an achievement (fucking LOL at all the media wankers). The Northern Irish stuff is significantly improved, and it seems to have moved away from bouncing us back into a customs union; but the rest of the shit stuff seems to have either remained untouched or just been shunted down the road (namely the 'level playing field' bullshit), so I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I still don't think it's a particularly great DEAL, but getting anything out of them is something of an achievement (fucking LOL at all the media wankers). The Northern Irish stuff is significantly improved, and it seems to have moved away from bouncing us back into a customs union; but the rest of the shit stuff seems to have either remained untouched or just been shunted down the road (namely the 'level playing field' bullshit), so I don't know.
    And this is exactly the spin he needs put on this practically identical deal to try push it through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I still don't think it's a particularly great DEAL, but getting anything out of them is something of an achievement (fucking LOL at all the media wankers). The Northern Irish stuff is significantly improved, and it seems to have moved away from bouncing us back into a customs union; but the rest of the shit stuff seems to have either remained untouched or just been shunted down the road (namely the 'level playing field' bullshit), so I don't know.
    LOL. The NI stuff is only "improved" if you think that making the backstop permanent is an improvement. I do think that, so I'm happy enough but I doubt English Tories should.

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    What is in the deal?
    Most of the deal is the same as the one agreed by Theresa May last year - the main change is the Northern Ireland proposal.

    The UK will continue to abide by EU rules until the end of 2020, and possibly longer, to allow businesses to adjust
    The UK will still pay an estimated £33bn "divorce bill"
    The rights of EU citizens living in the UK, and UK citizens in the EU, will be guaranteed

    What's changed?

    Northern Ireland will be aligned to the EU single market
    The controversial "backstop" - that critics feared could have kept the UK in a customs union with the EU indefinitely - has been removed
    Northern Ireland will instead remain a part of the UK's customs territory, so it will be included in any future trade deals struck by the government after Brexit
    But Northern Ireland will also remain an entry point into the EU's customs zone. The UK will not apply tariffs to products entering Northern Ireland as long as they are not destined for onward transportation across the border
    A joint EU/UK committee will decide which goods are at risk of entering the single market and the UK will collect EU tariffs on them on behalf of the EU
    The Northern Ireland Assembly - which has been suspended since January 2017 - will get a vote every four years on whether to continue with the new trading arrangements
    The decision would be based on a simple majority, rather than requiring a majority of both unionists and nationalists to support the rules in order for them to pass
    Backstop aside, it's the same deal.

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    I think if I was voting on it I would want assurances that a lot of that extra wank can and will be unwound over time, and that they've only left it as is because of time constraints. When Deadly Dom was still freelancing back in March he wrote about it all as follows:

    Also, don’t worry about the so-called ‘permanent’ commitments this historically abysmal Cabinet are trying to make on our behalf. They are not ‘permanent’ and a serious government — one not cowed by officials and their bullshit ‘legal advice’ with which they have herded ministers like sheep — will dispense with these commitments and any domestic law enforcing them.

    I would like to believe that.

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    He may well get the chance to prove it.

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    I doubt he'll stay in government, unless he really does want to turn the civil service into the Apollo programme. I have a bet with myself that he'll be out on 1 November.

    Lol if he does indeed deliver Brexit though, the lol being directed at basically everyone in Westminster except him.

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    That's another issue. It could conceivably fly if Boris Johnson's Conservative Party gets [at least] five years to oversee it all and get us wheelin' and dealin' in the meantime. If the other idiots get in then there is more than enough scope to be pulled back into everything shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I doubt he'll stay in government, unless he really does want to turn the civil service into the Apollo programme. I have a bet with myself that he'll be out on 1 November.

    Lol if he does indeed deliver Brexit though, the lol being directed at basically everyone in Westminster except him.

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    On the minuscule chance this passes, shit is going to kick off big style. Back to the warzone.



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    The deal is favourite with the bookies to go through:

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plu...et/1.163824572

    Evens on it not. Is this the time I finally make some money from this shitfest?

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    The DUP are mongs, Northern Ireland would be the main winner from this. They seem to be more interested in some kind of 100 years ago religious fervour than the interests of Northern Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The DUP are mongs, Northern Ireland would be the main winner from this. They seem to be more interested in some kind of 100 years ago religious fervour than the interests of Northern Ireland.
    Yes, welcome to Northern Irish politics.

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    'I take my lead from the DUP' has be the new, much worse version of 'I agree with Nick'.

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    The Speaker having to vote for the government to break the tie would be the lol result.

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    The Letwin amendment is both brilliant and damming in further proving that we're getting no further forward.

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    Doesn't that amendment make it more likely that the deal will pass? Surely no one really thinks 'the plan' is to get the deal approved and then sink it to force NO DEAL BREXIT. Honestly?

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    No idea what they actually think, but "No" has gone favourite now.

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    And so the circus continues.

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