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    Poland has brought in a 7pm curfew tonight.

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    Fuck that for a joke!

    Mr Vukovic said he was now more than $4,000 out of pocket, and questioned the lack of communication from the WA Government and WA Police.

    "They only let me go because I booked the first flight back," he said.

    "The whole experience was like I was a criminal. Escorted around, locked in the room with security out the front.

    "I was looking forward to staying, but it's a sour feeling now. So now I just want to go home."

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-...llers/13026460

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    Serves him right for wanting to go to WA.

    A friend had his Christmas trip to Port firebombed by the new variant or rules or whatever (he lives on Sydney's Northern Beaches), which was a bit shit for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queenslander View Post
    2020 has been the year of State Govenment.

    Are you in Brisbane for a bit?
    Yep - I'm staying with my brother and sister-in-law in the city. No firm decision on when I'll go back yet. I'm keeping an eye on things for now, and they're happy enough to have me here for a while yet. Things are just much more chilled out up here.

    They live near the valley, and I went for a wander there yesterday before we headed to a family thing. It was shaping up to be carnage there. Social distancing was not being strongly followed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    Yep - I'm staying with my brother and sister-in-law in the city. No firm decision on when I'll go back yet. I'm keeping an eye on things for now, and they're happy enough to have me here for a while yet. Things are just much more chilled out up here.

    They live near the valley, and I went for a wander there yesterday before we headed to a family thing. It was shaping up to be carnage there. Social distancing was not being strongly followed.
    Valley on New Years would be a cocaine fueled belter for some.

    It is a classy place these days for the most part. Are you near James St?

    Brisbane has been relaxed for months and months now. Dont look at your phone or the TV and you'll forget all about Covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Serves him right for wanting to go to WA.

    A friend had his Christmas trip to Port firebombed by the new variant or rules or whatever (he lives on Sydney's Northern Beaches), which was a bit shit for him.
    He should do 2 weeks in Byron then go up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    We've basically done what Tony Blair said, and changed from the original method to a new 'give as many people as possible a first dose at any cost' method.

    Probably thinks it's a risk worth taking - could be right, could be wrong, who knows.

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    In other news I have officially returned to 'fuck this' mode. Between the smug as fuck lefty doctors on twitter revelling in being the bearers of bad news, the mouth breathing right wing cunts on twitter and elsewhere, the fucking dismal political communication from the top of government, and the fact that I am facing another 3 or more months of sitting up here by myself never leaving except to the virus-infested office, it can absolutely do one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    We've basically done what Tony Blair said, and changed from the original method to a new 'give as many people as possible a first dose at any cost' method.

    Probably thinks it's a risk worth taking - could be right, could be wrong, who knows.
    No, it's not just that. I know they're doing that. They're also now changing it to if you got the Pfizer one for your first dose, but they don't have it by the time it comes to your second dose, they'll give you the AstraZeneca one if they have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    No, it's not just that. I know they're doing that. They're also now changing it to if you got the Pfizer one for your first dose, but they don't have it by the time it comes to your second dose, they'll give you the AstraZeneca one if they have it.
    Comes to the same thing - a philosophy of prioritising jabbing over not jabbing, at any cost. Presumably they think it's a risk worth taking.

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    Quite an interesting read some of that.

    I suppose they do do the same thing, so maybe there is some logic to it.

    The people who came up with that probably know a bit more about it than me, you or Katherine J Wu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Quite an interesting read some of that.

    I suppose they do do the same thing, so maybe there is some logic to it.

    The people who came up with that probably know a bit more about it than me, you or Katherine J Wu.
    Yeah but it says in the article that they do it in different ways. And there are people who know a bit more about it than the three of us saying it's quite a risk.

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    Also, you'd have to say the headline on that piece is more than a little misleading when you actually read the section on "Previous Incomplete Vaccination".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Yeah but it says in the article that they do it in different ways. And there are people who know a bit more about it than the three of us saying it's quite a risk.
    That’s the thing these days, take about 30 seconds to search and you’ll find experts saying it’s not a risk too. Every angle on everything will have an expert backing it up because it’s so easy be heard now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Yeah but it says in the article that they do it in different ways. And there are people who know a bit more about it than the three of us saying it's quite a risk.
    The article is sensationalist wank though, so I'm not sure what credence you should give to it's various talking head sources.

    Therefore, every effort should be made to determine which vaccine the individual received and to complete with the same vaccine. For individuals who started the schedule and who attend for vaccination at a site where the same vaccine is not available, or if the first product received is unknown, it is reasonable to offer one dose of the locally available product to complete the schedule. This
    option is preferred if the individual is likely to be at immediate high risk or is considered unlikely to attend again. In these circumstances, as both the vaccines are based on the spike protein, it is likely the second dose will help to boost the response to the first dose.
    Seems a fairly narrow set of circumstances to be basing a shock horror headline on.

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    It makes sense to just give people whatever as quickly as possible. It's not like mixing them together makes you worse off.

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    Speaking of Tony Blair, where has this meme come from that New Labour were these ruthlessly efficient technocrats? Even if you don't subscribe to the correct view that they completely ruined the country and society and that he should be hanged, they had bi-annual reshuffles and fucked every major project and (attempted) reform up. They just happened to have a chequebook and a compliant media and parasite sector running interference for them.

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    The same place all revisionism does: nostalgia. Commentators aged 50 odd see Blair talking guff and think back to the good old days when they earned shit tons to do not much, weren't the subject of Twitter pile-ons, and could get it up.

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    Andrew Neil has rt’d at least 4 articles from The Spectator about cancel culture in the last week. It’s fucking hilarious how terrified they are of anyone calling them a knob.

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    People are having a right ball with 'Britpopper' discourse on Twitter, and I invented it over a decade ago. Yet another missed opportunity to get that YouTube fight money laying some FBPE personality out.

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    The Memory Sweet Spot is currently set to about 1997-8, so we've got another five or so years of wistful Blair thinkpieces and re-evaluations of Ms Dynamite before the next Blair finally comes along and starts it all over again.

    I watched the TV version of White Teeth the other week, the book came out in 2000 and marked Peak Blair. Load of utter guff.

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    I feel like the only thing currently preventing a massive wave of David Cameron/coalition revision is people still blaming him for Brexit ('voters never even cared about Europe'). Assuming that the Conservative Party reverts to being shit for the remainder of the parliament then it won't materialise, but if they do the odd 'populist' thing that the Guardian and Big Quaker don't like then we should see the first paeans to George Osborne's 'seriousness' by next summer.

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    Nick Clegg's tuition fees / going off to shill for Facebook one-two has seen off any hope of the coalition being rehabilitated, while Cameron saw to himself when he lost the referendum for them (and then 'ran away', as if staying on to manage the exit against a mob of his own braying MPs would have helped matters).

    If Gideon was even slightly less of a lizard weirdo he could have secured a slightly less earthy Ed Balls cultural space by now. Oh well, that's St Paul's boys for you.

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    The trick will be to gloss over Nick Clegg and just see him as part of the Cameron/Osborne ('sensible Tories') effort to battle their real opposition, Michael Gove (plus one), the 'Tory Right' ft. Nigel Farage, and the then Mayor of London, who was actually no threat to Cameron whatsoever until 2016 but he gave a lol conference speech every year so people pretended he was. Then you will get the likes of Justine Greening and Nick Boles made out to have been major ministers when they weren't, like how people think Alan Johnson was a major New Labour figure whilst John Prescott, Charles Clarke etc. slip out of popular memory.

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    I'm looking at the Blair ministries and, despite the unbelievable general churn, Geoff Hoon managed to hang on as Minister of Defence for six years. Half of these people might as well be dead. Ruth Kelly is fifty-two years old, and I haven't heard her name for ten years.

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    Just to go back to Jim mentioning cancel culture. I’ve been wracking my brain on it and I’m struggling to come up with someone who’s an actual victim of cancel culture. Jordan Peterson banged on about his victim hood all the time but the only thing that seemed to happen as a result of him being cancelled was a million dollar book deal and him getting addicted to eating beef and snorting OxyContin.

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    Alex Jones, Louis CK, Chris Delia?

    Edit: Kevin Hart sort of

    Shane Gillis is the most pathetic example.
    Last edited by Queenslander; 02-01-2021 at 02:26 AM.

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    I’m not sure how ‘locking the door and forcing women to watch me masturbate’ or ‘having sex with underage women’ fit under the ‘cancelled for participating in the forum of ideas’ my man but you do you. Preferably by the sounds of it, far away from women.

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    Im just having a crack at your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Just to go back to Jim mentioning cancel culture. I’ve been wracking my brain on it and I’m struggling to come up with someone who’s an actual victim of cancel culture. Jordan Peterson banged on about his victim hood all the time but the only thing that seemed to happen as a result of him being cancelled was a million dollar book deal and him getting addicted to eating beef and snorting OxyContin.
    Are you saying that 'canceling' is ineffective, and maybe even counterproductive? Maybe it is a tactic that should be abandoned, then.

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    If anything they should love it for stimulating the economy.

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    How is Katie Hopkins getting on these days? I'm assuming she's hitched the hate-wagon to a new platform?

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    Grim reading thread on the absolute shit show is going on here. Or, sorry I mean


    Last edited by Giggles; 02-01-2021 at 10:07 AM.

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    You can't still be in the Dyatlov meme surely?

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    Going to need that one explained.

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    3.6 Roentgen. Good, not terrible. Except that's as high as the radiation readers went in Chernobyl.

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    1700 cases a day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    1700 cases a day?

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    The thread is about it being closer to 5000 cases and not 1700 because of the shambles that the health service is. There’s 9000 positive cases alone awaiting verification that aren’t on the system because they’re still documenting everything with pen and paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Going to need that one explained.

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    On a union reps Zoom call at 12. Suspect industrial action may be the agenda, which I have some reservations about.

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    Australia would be better off if the Victorian border and the Queensland border touched.

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    I don't understand why the government doesn't just move to online learning until end of January (maybe make exceptions for those in exam years) - is it not the easiest decision in the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I don't understand why the government doesn't just move to online learning until end of January (maybe make exceptions for those in exam years) - is it not the easiest decision in the world?
    That would require Williamson to take a more tentative approach, which doesn't suit the narrative they're (failing to) spin about strong, decisive decision making.

    At the end of it, they just want to be able to say "well, we kept the schools open".

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    The easiest win would be to give parents the option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I don't understand why the government doesn't just move to online learning until end of January (maybe make exceptions for those in exam years) - is it not the easiest decision in the world?
    Because you still have a massive gap between the haves and have nots. There are already significant learning gaps opening up in primary schools due to it.

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    Ok so not strike action, but about invoking the right to work from home whilst online learning is happening (the current line is staff have to go into the school building to deliver online lessons).

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    My daughters teacher is teaching from home at the moment (although she is high risk).

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    Unpopular opinion: teachers can't work from home.

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    Because?

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