It's funny, I thought legions of offside goals having let the play go would be its undoing but they appear to have fucked it in a myriad of other ways too.Originally Posted by Kikó
It's funny, I thought legions of offside goals having let the play go would be its undoing but they appear to have fucked it in a myriad of other ways too.
Every rule now seems infinitely more confused and applied differently on a game by game basis. I thought the whole point was to get the big decisions right yet we're talking even more about referees and whether the decision is right.
Lovely bit of needle to this game. A Zaha red looks inevitable.
What was that shit floating around about how it can't be handball, like that blatant Arsenal handball in the box was, if your hand is touching the floor? That sounds like a recipe for some quality goal line blocking.
I think a big problem is that they should have had a look at every single rule before they brought it in and ascertained whether they needed to change any of those in light of it.
Offside, for example, was a rule brought in to stop goal hanging and shouldn't in a million years lead to a goal being disallowed if a slowed down replay viewed eight times suggests the striker's left testicle was ahead of the defender.
Olise is so good.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football...s-not-sneering
Hear, hear. Thankfully he'll still have a couple of seasons to prove his outrageous quality at a functioning club.
Scott McTominay. Do I get points for that?Paul Pogba hasn’t really improved in six years at Manchester United. But then, who has?
Other than for the first three months under Ole Gunnar Binman, his best season was his first one where 'Zlatan' was wasting one or two highlight reel assists every game. I'm not sure where he goes from United. In the game as it is now he's a number ten or he's a borderline liability.
A league where you get time and space to fart around and pick out outrageous passes. In our football these days it's run hard for 90 or go home.
Italy would work (again).
Italy, or humiliating the French league but costing them in the Champions' League quarters.
If he went to a random French team, let's say Nantes (if they're in the top flight), he could probably get them within 10 points of PSG.
People who don't think Pogba is good are idiots. Just tell him what to do, it's really not that hard. United haven't had a good manager in 9 years and people are shocked he isn't performing. Remember when United were wining every game 4-0 in Mourinhos first year?
Yeah he seems like the sort of cunt that would do as he’s instructed.
People who think it's because Pogba hasn't been told what to do are idiots. He doesn't have the discipline or fitness to be a centre midfielder, makes awful decisions in dangerous parts of the pitch and has limited desire to actually dominate a midfield. I'm not going to be sad the preening look at me arse is gone. Absolute time and energy waster.
He's one of these people who wishes he was an American basketballer rather than a French footballer, I think.
At some point there will need to be an official club statement about how Mourinho was right about every single player. They can't keep denying him the justice he deserves.
Thiago and KDB do that no problem in the Premier League. Pogba just cba
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They skip the farting around bit (well, De Bruyne does).
How have you managed to compare all 3 of them players
Brexit gammons saying Pogba doesn't have the discpline or fitness to be a central midfielder just because he doesn't sink wifebeaters and burn in 18 degree sun
Just read that Fabregas has more career goal contributions (338) than Thiago has total career starts (328) and don’t know what to think.
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It was a laugh reading the Liverpool fans on Twitter saying Thiago was far better as he played a massive role at Barcelona and Bayern
Thiago is just Jon Mikel Obi but with light enough skin that you're allowed to call him a good passer.
The man levitates. Pure art with the ball at his feet.
You should think that that's a very stupid way of determining that one player is better than another.
A quick google will also tell you that it's made up.
Last edited by -james-; 26-04-2022 at 01:17 PM.
Wouldn't that require a million games a season, though? And on that topic...
Mourinho said that Pogba can do well at the World Cup because it's a short period of time for him to absolutely focus. Seems pretty bang on.
What’s the real figures boss man
There are no real figures because a 'goal contribution' does not exist.
There was a player RL used to talk about a lot during an extended period of time in reference to his goal contributions, anyone remember the name?
Fabregas 336 all competitions (excluding the two assists he got for Chelsea reserves). 240 in league appearances, 387 if you include senior internationals. [1]
Thiago 396 all competitions, 265 league appearances, 442 including internationals. [2]
Also what Jimmy said.
[1] https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/cesc...n/spieler/8806
[2] https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/thia.../spieler/60444
I’ve addressed it.
Thanks everyone.
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Based on transfermarkt, it looks right
https://www.transfermarkt.us/cesc-fa...s/0?saison=ges
https://www.transfermarkt.us/thiago/.../plus/1#gesamt
Cesc
125 G + 213 A = 338
Thiago
450 games - 122 times subbed on = 328.
Coming for the "goal contribution" bullshit, staying for the Mellin millions.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...beat-liverpool
Intelligent analysis of the monster we have become this season. We're now linked to signing Pogba's regen from Monaco in the summer too. Jesus, it'd get dull if it wasn't for the perma-erection.
Surely as someone who wanks over xG, xA, xB that the mans stats are a complete shambles. Alternatively, you can use your eyes.Brexit gammons saying Pogba doesn't have the discpline or fitness to be a central midfielder just because he doesn't sink wifebeaters and burn in 18 degree sun
Your 'team' is broken, as is the environment but any fool can see how ridiculous a talent Pogba is when he makes any and all opposing players look like a child with his physical strength and ability to shield the ball whilst also being able to pick out a pass if afforded the time and space. These infested waters' obsession with kick and rush headless chicken football can't cover that shit up.
I think you can blame Pogba for not leaving United when he clearly wasn’t happy nor arsed. He was never going to do better for United, but he could have just left; and he’s chosen money over a better career in that respect.
I'm sure all the big teams will have him now he's on a free and he can prove the United fans wrong etc.
Would he get into the Liverpool 11? Who does he get in ahead of? How many goal CONTRIBUTIONS would he get in the team?
In a functioning team, having a differential like that who can literally dominate opposition midfielders would be massive. He ain't working in a Pep/Klopp side but any other team he strolls into and improves.
Not that I'm saying Pobga is, but there are a lot of players who're pretty damn good who wouldn't get into that Liverpool side - it's clearly one of the best ever assembled.
Not surprised that YouTube football fan Taz rates pogba. It was just the white man keeping him down.
Pogba's not quite in the Balotelli 'you can see he has talent' camp, but at some point you do have to wonder whether, as a player, in a team game, when your contribution to your team's performances [or lack thereof] is taken as at least persuasive evidence of whether you are in fact actually really good at the professional version of the game.
There are loads of players who can do a million keepie-uppies and all sorts of wonderful tricks, and yet there's Sylvan Wiltord with the decorated career at the very top of the game.
Pogba's ended up a poor man's Gerrard. A player without discipline, but who could make up for it through sheer effort and ability, but Pogba's all too often lacked the former, it would seem.
Talent is nothing without attitude except in a very rare case. Pogba is not one of those cases. Talented player but the sum of all his parts make him a waste of space at best, but probably leaning more on the side of a complete poison.
I'm sure someone has said it above, but Pogba is grand if you play in a league where time on the ball is allowed.
You see the flashes of ability over here. 4 assists in the one game and such, but he'd be much better off going to Germany or France.
This will just make the bottlejob even sweeter.
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