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    That's why I don't think you ban it, even if you can concoct a suitable rule, it's so incredibly situational and extremely easy to defend against.

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    It seems we're trying to cancel Ted Kravitz this week. I've not seen the clip yet, but I'm told during one of his notebooks from Austin or Mexico he bluntly said that Hamilton was robbed of the 2021 title by Michael Masi.

    The entire of the Red Bull team said they will boycott Sky F1, though they didn't say how long for. It seems Kravitz at least has a friend at The Times.

    It'll likely de-escalate over the coming week or so until Brazil, but if it doesn't, we could be in for Horner-free weekends for a while. Bliss.

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    Brundle has come out and supported him, too. Red Bull need to man the fuck up.

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    He's not wrong but why bring it up now? I also found 'Spendy Spice' funnier than I should have.

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    He needs to let it the fuck go. Sky have been a complete embarrassment about the whole thing and he’s been the poster boy for it.

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    Who fucking cares if a pit lane bloke says something biased? Have we gone through the tapes of Dutch TV to see if they are 100% neutral at all times?

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    Verstappen and Horner are probably just seething because 'the script' ended with Kravitz essentially saying Newey was the hero of the film.

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    Dutch TV are pretty much the worst for bias as well so Max needs to grow up.

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    Love these uploads from '93, this one featuring Gerhard Berger and his giant hairy balls and Murray Walker who even at his effusive best could only muster 'from Barnet' as something to say about Mark Blundell.

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    I do remember Martin Brundle essentially shitting on Vettel after his 4th WDC in a row with his adulation of Newey. It's not something new - Sky are always fairly biased towards the Brits and it rubs people up the wrong way as they're the chosen world broadcaster for F1.

    I don't see an issue with Max not wanting to speak with Ted/Sky at Mexico - as long as you do your media obligations with the press conferences, I couldn't care less if you choose not to speak to a specific broadcaster. But Horner always takes it one step further with his excuses.
    Last edited by thommo; 02-11-2022 at 11:57 AM.

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    People in other countries moaning about pro-British attitude of the British broadcaster should turn their ire on the local broadcasters for picking up Sky and being too cheap to produce their own broadcast.

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    Hulk to Haas looking a certainty now.

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    I'm going to assume that means Schumacher's run is over.

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    Yeah he's done if they go for Hulkenburg, I can't see anyone else taking him on.

    In other news, Hamiltons 'one win a year' record is under threat but if none of Hamilton, Russell, Ricciardo, Norris, Vettel, Stroll, Albon, or Latifi win either of the last two races it will be first time since 1953 that the British flag hasn't seen the top step of the podium.

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    I can't believe that. Wasn't there a weak period post Hunt and pre Mansell, or was John Watson knocking out a win a year then?

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    Prost, Senna and Lauda all lent a hand.

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    I was confused but you have also thrown in manufacturers too.

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    Oh, cars as well? All the cars are British except the red and blue ones so whatever.

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    Less so these days, only three have British registration as most of them get licenced elsewhere. Bonus point to whoever can tell me which team has been registered in/licenced from 5 different countries and which countries they were.

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    Enstone has been in Britain, Italy, France, think that's it though.

    Aston Martin - Ireland, Britain, Holland, erm, India. Germany?

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    Aston Martin were registered here? Unless you’re thinking of Jordan, but that licence died with Force India.

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    For some reason Midland was licenced in Russia, but otherwise you've got it.

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    Ferrari are the gift that keep on giving.

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    Kevin

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    Magnussen on pole, make it happen.

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    How can Magnussen end up on pole when he didn’t do a lap?

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    He did.

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    Ah, he did. They’re just not showing a lap time for some reason.

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    KMag on the radio sounded so happy, before he had to try and calm himself down. It's been a fantastic qualifying session before this anyway, Interlagos and changeable weather is just the BEST combination.

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    No one coming out. Damp track. This one is over.

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    I forgot it's not proper pole because of stupid sprint races.

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    Pole in the record books.

    Loving this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    I forgot it's not proper pole because of stupid sprint races.
    It is, they changed it this year thankfully.

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    I say it every year, but there isn't a better racing venue on the calendar.

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    Fuck sake. Didn’t realise this was on. Brazil is so good. Tomorrow should be fun for a sprint race. Maybe.

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    It doesn't matter what they count, the sprint sets the grid for Sunday and he won't be starting there as he would on a normal weekend.

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    Whatever about not being able to beat Magnussen, why did the other 8 drivers not try and better each other? Or do the Q2 times still count vs Q3 ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Whatever about not being able to beat Magnussen, why did the other 8 drivers not try and better each other? Or do the Q2 times still count vs Q3 ones?
    They had one shot because the rain was coming. Some cars warm their tyres into the right window faster than others. Haas is great at it and KMag put a top lap in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    It doesn't matter what they count, the sprint sets the grid for Sunday and he won't be starting there as he would on a normal weekend.
    Ah right, I thought you meant he wouldn't have an official pole to his name. Yeah, a big shame it's not for the race, but I can't imagine he's backing down on the early laps so it could be a fun start for once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    They had one shot because the rain was coming. Some cars warm their tyres into the right window faster than others. Haas is great at it and KMag put a top lap in.
    I hadn’t copped the other drivers had got a time in before the red flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thommo View Post
    Ah right, I thought you meant he wouldn't have an official pole to his name. Yeah, a big shame it's not for the race, but I can't imagine he's backing down on the early laps so it could be a fun start for once.
    Yeah, KMag is ruthless. Wouldn’t surprised me if he puts a couple of people off the road at the start. Won’t back down like a bitch when Verstappen tries to bully his way in front anyway.

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    I fucking hate F1 sprint races. With all the passion in my heart. I hate them more than I like the rest of motor racing, which is a lot.

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    Last year at Brazil was fun with Hamilton on a rampage.

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    They just seem so bloody pointless. Too much effort to substitute for qualifying, not rewarding enough as a race itself.

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    Although I'm a Hamilton sympathiser, last year's Brazil event was a great example of why sprint races are shite. He should have been starting from 20th after being thrown out of qualifying, but the sprint race got him to 10th and from there it was basically a nailed on podium in a top 2 car, with a win possible with a great drive/some luck (which indeed happened).

    EDIT: Sorry, to 5th and then a grid penalty sent him back to 10th.

    If you feel you have to have a sprint race, do it as a funky stand alone event on the Saturday with the grid order drawn out of a locally appropriate hat just beforehand. Cowboy hat at Austin, bearskin at Silverstone, beret at Paul Ricard.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 11-11-2022 at 08:33 PM.

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    Yeah, BTCC it. Hell, get Jason Plato to drive a Williams.

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    Plato bloke is still going.

    Also, Kev

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I say it every year, but there isn't a better racing venue on the calendar.
    It really is a stunning track.

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    I love it. I know it used to be longer but the current layout has always felt perfect to me. The fact it sits there in a lovely little bowl, too. I bet it's great for spectators.

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    The downhill esses, the run down to the lake, then the technical corners, then the run back up the hill and explosion down the straight. Just the perfect rhythm for a racetrack (for a dreadful rhythm, see Paul Ricard or COTA).

    Corner names as well. Mergulho into Juncão. Pinheirinho. Bico de Pato. Fuck numbers.

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