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    The new Kendrick single (and accompanying video) is outrageously good. I know it probably won't be on the album, but if it's in any way indicative of what is to come on Friday then we're in for something special.

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    The harder he tries, the less I care. It may sound ridiculous, but he'll never be respected with the greats. Hip hop is all about personality, which he doesn't have.

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    Young Thug and Gunna are going to jail for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Young Thug and Gunna are going to jail for a long time.

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    Also if you watch jeen-yuhs just skip episode 3, man.

    Even Coodie (the guy who filmed everything) is like ‘it didn’t feel right to record him like this so I turned the camera off.’

    And it’s not like there’s a nice warm wrap-up of an ending. It’s basically yeah Kanye is crazy now soz but hope you enjoyed parts 1 and 2.

    Parts 1 (trying to get a record deal) and 2 (college dropout releases!) are very good.
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    At what point did he start to go off the deep end? Was it as simple as his mother's death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    At what point did he start to go off the deep end? Was it as simple as his mother's death?
    Mostly yes, but from the documentary he already seemed to have changed almost overnight from winning the Grammies for College Dropout and his mum becoming his business manager and them starting the Donda Foundation or whatever. Coodie said he told him he was now playing a role/acting for the media. Very strange considering how likeable and warming he is in part 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Young Thug and Gunna are going to jail for a long time.
    They borderline deserve jail time for how bad their song with Future on his new album was.

    Disclaimer - I like Young Thug. Or have liked him in the past, I can't say I've kept up with him all that much lately. That song was garbage though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    They borderline deserve jail time for how bad their song with Future on his new album was.

    Disclaimer - I like Young Thug. Or have liked him in the past, I can't say I've kept up with him all that much lately. That song was garbage though.
    Possibly my favourite track on the album.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Possibly my favourite track on the album.


    I haven't been back to the album since first listen to be honest, I just wasn't a huge fan of it in general. I like Future too, he's just not done anything that's interested me in a while. I kind of feel like his time might have come and gone. Or he needs to switch it up a bit, but I don't know what that would look/sound like really. He very much has his "lane" and he sticks in it!

    I did recently pick up a copy of DS2 on "Record Store Day" though, and have been revisiting that absolute beast.

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    The only good Yung Thug song is Pikachu and that's because it's so fucking trash it's interesting.

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    I think there was a time when he was legitimately making a lot of very fresh and interesting music. He sort of took Lil Wayne's garbled autotune persona and ran with it to new and often quite weird/creative lengths, and subverted a lot of idea about what you could and couldn't do with the genre along the way.

    Barter 6 was his pinnacle for me. Although I enjoyed a lot of the stuff around that time. The mixtape with Birdman (I forget what it was called now), the Slime Season tapes. The Jefferey album, that was good too. He was a really interesting artist for time.

    I'm not saying he's not necessarily now, that Future feature was the first I've heard from him in a while. It just happens that I really disliked it.

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    This Kendrick album definitely isn't appropriate for listening first thing after waking, so I'll steer clear of criticism for now...

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    I’m sure Pitchfork will score it higher than Jack Harlow’s.
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    There's a lot to unpack, as you'd expect. I'm not sure I can be bothered to annotate the lyrics, but it'll definitely take a while to unravel.

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    My opinion after one listen is tremendous.

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    I've caught up with Denzel, Vince and Boldy James releases. Vince was good but fairly flatline, similarly to Kendrick, which on relistens remains mostly forgettable outside of a few tracks (Mr Morale, N95, Father Time, Purple Hearts).

    Walkin is maybe track of the year by Denzel and its a great album overall. No idea how it passed me by without realising, but I love it. Boldy James is great too but I'm not always in the mood for that type of gritty, raw stuff.

    I think Pusha will be hard to top for album of the year. That album just fucking bangs in so many ways. Kendrick for lyrical ability and meaning and all that waffle, but I really wish he'd just write some poetry or a book separately and focus on making great music again.

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    Aunti Diaries and Mother I Sober

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    Drake's new album though.
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    It’s definitely not hip hop

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    Yeah, sure.

    I bet @Don approves.
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    Didn't know of it, will report back in the coming days.

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    Like everything Drake has done since WATTBA, it's mediocre.

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    You’re not allowed to use that word anymore. It’s mid.

    As far as sitting in the garden sunning myself music goes, I’m enjoying it.
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    The Kanye interview with Tucker Carlson is something else. I find it impossible to follow his train of thought.

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    He's a black Israelite or something during whatever manic phase this is.

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    MF DOOM. Talk to me. I've started with MM...FOOD and it's very much a vibe. Any other musts in his discography?

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    Madvillain, Take Me To Your Leader

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    Quite a deep discography where he collaborated a lot and worked under various aliases, but I would say the absolute highlights are:

    Operation: Doomsday - His debut as a solo artist and return to rap after a few years away from it. It's not one I revisit a lot to be honest but it's undeniably very good and sort of lays the blueprint for his whole persona.

    Madvillainy - His collaboration (as "Madvillain") with Madlib, who produced the whole thing. If you polled the entire rap community I imagine this would easily come out on top as the best DOOM album, and with good reason. Weird and wonderful and he flips rhymes in particularly mind bending fashion, even by his own standards, all over the place on this. A classic that had a lot of crossover appeal with "serious music" type people. Widely considered one of the best rap albums of this century, if not ever.

    Take Me To Your Leader - Released under his "King Geedorah" alias. This is almost like his "producer" album in that you get a lot of guest spots and him putting more obscure people from his crew on. It's DOOM's best collection of beats and an absolutely fantastic album.

    Vadueville Villain - Released under his "Viktor Vaughan" moniker, this is like a bit of a concept album and has a sort of weird, loose story to it. He works with a lot of random producers on this that I never really saw pop up again in any other major capacity. This is my personal favourite DOOM album and I would say one of the very best rap albums of this century.

    There's a lot more to delve into on top of that, many of which would still shit on a lot of rappers best albums, but those are the key ones I would say.

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    Fantastic. You've sold Vadueville Villain to me. I'll pick that up next.

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    I really like Operation Doomsday.

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    Drake can stfu dissing Megan The Stallion.

    Not heard the full album (Her Loss, joint project with 21 Savage) but the bits I have heard all seem good.
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    King's Disease III is ridiculous. Best of the three I think.

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    It is indeed.
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    Dizzee gives off serious 'old man yells at cloud' vibes these days.

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    Someone please help me: trying to figure out the name / artist of a track. It’s an instrumental hip hop track. Tinkly piano, drums and a heavy bass line. I had it in my library years ago as I recognise it, but I’ve heard it recently on The Totally Football Show when they run through the scores and can’t for the life of me remember a name. Anyone know what I’m talking about?

    The word ‘coffee ‘comes to mind (either for the name of the song or the artist) but that could be way off the mark. Spent the last hour googling for it but to no avail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJay View Post
    Someone please help me: trying to figure out the name / artist of a track. It’s an instrumental hip hop track. Tinkly piano, drums and a heavy bass line. I had it in my library years ago as I recognise it, but I’ve heard it recently on The Totally Football Show when they run through the scores and can’t for the life of me remember a name. Anyone know what I’m talking about?

    The word ‘coffee ‘comes to mind (either for the name of the song or the artist) but that could be way off the mark. Spent the last hour googling for it but to no avail.
    Can you link an example pod or just give me a timestamp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Can you link an example pod or just give me a timestamp?
    Starts at 15:00 on this episode https://twitter.com/TheTotallyShow/s...65612596588546

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    That's Capital Steez. Dead Prez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    That's Capital Steez. Dead Prez.
    Good man. Love that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJay View Post
    Someone please help me: trying to figure out the name / artist of a track. It’s an instrumental hip hop track. Tinkly piano, drums and a heavy bass line. I had it in my library years ago as I recognise it, but I’ve heard it recently on The Totally Football Show when they run through the scores and can’t for the life of me remember a name. Anyone know what I’m talking about?

    The word ‘coffee ‘comes to mind (either for the name of the song or the artist) but that could be way off the mark. Spent the last hour googling for it but to no avail.
    Got it. Memory was on the money with coffee as well.


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    That's excellent.

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    It's not quite as cool as Space.

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    Love this video:

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    That's big.

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