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    Got you covered.

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    That's fantastic. As if that's not a sketch.

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    "Ukraine is not a rainbow friendly country." is a line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I went into my old Covid 2020 era 'consume all the information' mode for a few days, as generally that's how I best make sense of things, but the horror has beaten me right back and I've gone as far as deleting twitter from my phone.
    Yeah pretty much. I don't think I've ever experienced despair at current events like this. It's so grim.

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    Gammons in tears at a 3-figure death toll. Is this how bacon is made?

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    I'm sorry to say @Don but this is yet more racism.

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    Hey speaking of which:




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    Big Roman will be fuming at that. He loves an anti semitism rant.

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    Anonymous claim to have taken control on the control centre of the Russian Space Agency


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    What a world we live in where a national space agency is getting disabled by a "w0rd to th3 homiez" gang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post


    Got you covered.
    The replies.

    Top work.

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    Thank you France, I guess.

    I wonder what the reason was for our Government not directly banning them is.

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    They probably have less viewers than GB News.

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    Impossible.

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    The mental young lad who gave me that coffee machine is adamant he is going to Ukraine as a volunteer, trying to dissuade him but it's hard work

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    The cleaner asked me what I think about the war this morning but I hadn't a clue where he was from

    I just said I was far too busy to see any news.

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    One of the buyers at my work is genuinely shitting it about us getting involved and him being conscripted.

    We also have a Russian division in Moscow. Some of them there work in IT security.

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    Kherson has fallen. Not surprising that it is the first because it's directly over from Crimea, but it's nearly exclusively Ukrainian ethnic/language so the eventual insurgency will be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    One of the buyers at my work is genuinely shitting it about us getting involved and him being conscripted.

    We also have a Russian division in Moscow. Some of them there work in IT security.
    Grown men that have been afraid to breathe air for the past two years? We're doomed.

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    If there was conscription the tears of the covid key worker mob would ease the pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    The mental young lad who gave me that coffee machine is adamant he is going to Ukraine as a volunteer, trying to dissuade him but it's hard work
    You really need to start over.

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    Sberbank down another 95% today on the LSE. They were trading above 20 in October, now at 0.01.

    No wonder they're not opening MOEX.

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    You've seen how much pain the ruskies have taken trying to invade Ukraine, even the crap standing armies of NATO would pummel them into oblivion in a conventional war scenario. A conscript army can be saved for when the French land in Eastbourne.

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    Masterplan: overwhelm EU with refugees.

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    Limiting my intake of news now but the biggest fallacy I'm seeing is our pundits (by 'our' I mean also Ukraine and the entire West) massively overestimating the Russian people's capacity for protest after the impact of sanctions bites. Even if one assumes that a majority would be instinctively anti-war, which is by no means certain, this is one of the weakest civil societies in the world. They will accept basically anything, short of 1917-style mass starvation, because that is how things have always been.

    Random prediction that comes to mind is that if and when they return to football, it will be in the AFC and not UEFA.

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    Also conveniently forgetting that last time we extrajudicially invaded someone we had one of the largest demonstrations we've ever seen and it made fuck all difference.

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    Amusing how the British people are assuming protests will just happen. If it was the French then fair enough.

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    On the other hand, I have no idea how Putin is proposing to actually control Ukraine if and when he takes it. Surely basically impossible.

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    I read earlier they're ready to drop in Yanukovych as their puppet. That will go down brilliantly with the Ukrainians.

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    Belarus mk2.

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    From the reading I've done, the main reason for all this is because NATO broke their pact not to move east after the reunification of Germany. NATO have done so regardless, several times since then and the Russians have always been turbo-twitchy about enemies at the border.

    They let a couple of border countries slide, but Ukraine takes up a big chunk of border and would allow for a huge NATO build up, so he's trying to take Ukraine to keep that buffer in place.

    I don't think he actually wants Ukraine. Not really, anyway. He just doesn't want NATO on his doorstep. This is what makes this all the more annoying. It's incredibly petty unless Putin thinks NATO were planning to declare war on Russia for some reason.Which - if he does think that - makes starting a war with a prospective NATO member a fucking ridiculous idea.

    He isn't a stupid man, but all of this has been stupidity of the highest order. I suspect this is part of the problem with having a load of underlings that are to scared to tell you the truth. That video of him toying with one of them when they kept fumbling his questions spoke volumes.

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    While I think there's a bit of that, there's also the situation of still wanting to use Ukraine's gas pipelines to Europe but without having to pay anti-Russia Zelenskyy in the process, as well as restore the waterway to Crimea and tap into the vast natural resources they've recently discovered.

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    Everton have suspended their commercial sponsorship arrangements with Russian companies owned by Alisher Usmanov following the invasion of Ukraine.

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    Is that not what everyone has been doing for the past week, or am I missing some other hilarity in the Everton deals?

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    The Ukrainian armed forces appear to have said - out loud, in public - that they won't be taking any artillerymen prisoner. Now, war crimes aside, that strikes me as somewhat counter-productive when they're essentially depending on the Russians being less up for it than them.

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    Where would they store them? Everything explodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I went into my old Covid 2020 era 'consume all the information' mode for a few days, as generally that's how I best make sense of things, but the horror has beaten me right back and I've gone as far as deleting twitter from my phone.
    Pretty much same here. I really don't think society (myself included) is prepared at all for what this kind of war looks like, or even for the timespan in which it unfolds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Where would they store them? Everything explodes.
    Should do away with them. It’s a war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    The Ukrainian armed forces appear to have said - out loud, in public - that they won't be taking any artillerymen prisoner. Now, war crimes aside, that strikes me as somewhat counter-productive when they're essentially depending on the Russians being less up for it than them.
    Yeah they appear to have started reading from the badguyscript.pdf by accident there.

    And as you say, just not very bright if they're hoping to de-escalate this whole thing.

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    Stephen Nolan's BBC1 NI show was doing Ukraine tonight. Seems like the general public is gagging for World War 3 and nuclear annihilation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    And as you say, just not very bright if they're hoping to de-escalate this whole thing.
    Whilst I sort of get the point, I also see the other side where the Ukranians are going that we're well past the point of 'de-escalation' here [like that old lady shouting at the Russian solider "how could things get worse"].

    1,2,3,4 I declare a conventional war, there you go NATO, easy peasy.

    I find it hard to believe that there isn't some sort of big brain technology knocking about that knows where all the subs are. I mean, every pice of modern hi-tech military equipment seems to be 40 years old in terms of conception, so what have they been ding for 40 years?

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    Making submarines quieter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Stephen Nolan's BBC1 NI show was doing Ukraine tonight. Seems like the general public is gagging for World War 3 and nuclear annihilation.
    If Russia was as good at Facebook as they say it would be spamming it with stories about impending house price crashes.

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    https://twitter.com/real_lord_miles

    That twat who went to Afghanistan is in Ukraine.

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    That rebrand is good work. Must be for the just giving. "Catholic, aid worker", yeah right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Making submarines quieter.
    Exactly, supposedly the Astute class of submarines are so quiet if one was in (an appropriately sized) swimming pool with you, you wouldn't know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonsky View Post
    Pretty much same here. I really don't think society (myself included) is prepared at all for what this kind of war looks like, or even for the timespan in which it unfolds.
    You guys only turn up for the last couple of days, so I wouldn't worry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Stephen Nolan's BBC1 NI show was doing Ukraine tonight. Seems like the general public is gagging for World War 3 and nuclear annihilation.
    Easy to say from an armchair. Their balls would soon ascend into their body if the Government ordered conscription.

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