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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    I did management, concentrated in economics and finance, and I’m a management consultant serving mainly financial services clients.

    I could have done any degree, to be honest. Wouldn’t have mattered a lick. Maybe it would have made ramp up at the beginning a bit slower, I suppose. But the functional knowledge all gets re-picked up anyways.
    Yeah, there's a lot of "what the hell did I actually learn after 4-5 years of business studies". Then sometimes you end up in a discussion with an engineer who has no idea how the company he is in actually makes money, and realize that maybe all those marketing courses actually had an effect overall. Mostly it's this though:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    I may actually try that at some point and see if anybody believes me.
    The most significant thing I learned in university was how to communicate. I did a case-based program in my masters and it really forced you to refine presentation skills, how to logically structure arguments (written and, importantly, verbal), how to communicate persuasively, and how to tell a story with data.

    The technical stuff (my undergrad) was all basically bollocks. You learn how to do a DCF/build a unit economics model/whatever on the job.

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    Admittedly I work in a properly bullshit-free industry, but I am yet to discover anything in business that isn't just applied common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    The most significant thing I learned in university was how to communicate. I did a case-based program in my masters and it really forced you to refine presentation skills, how to logically structure arguments (written and, importantly, verbal), how to communicate persuasively, and how to tell a story with data.

    The technical stuff (my undergrad) was all basically bollocks. You learn how to do a DCF/build a unit economics model/whatever on the job.
    You never ended up in Stockholm, right?

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    I did a respectable amount of drugs during uni and associated myself with some properly unsavoury characters, both of which were absolutely vital in my development and future successes. It cost about £30K in total, I think. Would be easy to regard it as a waste of money but I know full-well it was good value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    You never ended up in Stockholm, right?
    Nah. HHS/SSE was an option for my CEMS degree but I ended up in Sydney because...well, yeah. It's Sydney.

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    Business was the one I wanted to do. No real idea why but it was top of my submitted list. I’d say I’d have hated whatever I’d have ended up in from it unless it was some form of accounting, and I presume that’s all been replaced with software these days (the bits that are legal anyway).

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    Accounting in a degree is too superficial to be useful so you still need to specialise if that's your interest. I might still go and do something accountancy rated to future proof myself but it's incredibly dull.

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    I don't really understand how you can get a full 3 years of study out of accounting. I did a module in it - and it was an unexpected strength, considering Maths is generally a weakness. Balance Sheets and Profit / Loss accounts are piss easy, even without the software to do it for you.

    I assume the bulk of the course must be around the legalities of tax dodges and declaring expenses.

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    Isn't accountancy largely on the job training? Do you even need a degree for it?

    My view is probably somewhat distorted by living in an absolute hive of the bastards. Pretty sure when I left school you could go straight into it if you wanted and be fully professionally qualified by the time most folk were coming out of uni with no idea what to do, having been paid for the privilege to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    The most significant thing I learned in university was how to communicate. I did a case-based program in my masters and it really forced you to refine presentation skills, how to logically structure arguments (written and, importantly, verbal), how to communicate persuasively, and how to tell a story with data.

    The technical stuff (my undergrad) was all basically bollocks. You learn how to do a DCF/build a unit economics model/whatever on the job.
    Either you didn't quote the post you meant to reply to, thought I was replying to a post other than the "Ian is short for Brian" one or you're somehow replying to the joke in a way that is going way over my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Isn't accountancy largely on the job training? Do you even need a degree for it?

    My view is probably somewhat distorted by living in an absolute hive of the bastards. Pretty sure when I left school you could go straight into it if you wanted and be fully professionally qualified by the time most folk were coming out of uni with no idea what to do, having been paid for the privilege to boot.
    I think it's a mixture of on the job and professional qualification (CIMA, ACCA, ACA).

    Spikes, I imagine the complexity is in the details of how you treat certain items.

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    Logged on and the company IT system is absolutely knackered across the board, glorious morning to be at home

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    3 days in. Lord have mercy. The messaging is going down a treat.

    "Are we completely ignoring COVID now? There are 300 people a day dying from COVID. Many more being hospitalised."

    It's heroes like that I'm relying on to see us get a U-turn. Big national employers have gone to full flexibility/WFH, this won't last. It can't. It bloody can't.

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    I just called someone with the surname "Shatcock" and just about held it together. You'd get that changed, surely.

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    I'm fairly sure the other night on Newsnight that Kirsty Wark, when introducing some lady called something Slocock, barely contained a giggle and had to recompose herself fairly sharpish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    "Are we completely ignoring COVID now? There are 300 people a day dying from COVID. Many more being hospitalised."
    These people were nowhere to be seen in pre-COVID flu seasons which takes out ~150 people a day. Their reasoning for continued restrictions is absolutely selfish.

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    I must have shared before that we had a customer call in one day in my last place whose surname was Cunto. I also spoke to a guy who pronounced his name zeh-men but when I brought up his account it was spelled Semen.

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    So my 2022 project has lasted 6 weeks. Christ on a bike.

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    So 40+ weeks of feet up, then?

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    If only. During the last pause I somehow forged a reputation as the go to excel head. No doubt they'll have me managing all manner of unrelated shite.

    I desperately need to move on.

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    Get spreadsheet badboy on your LinkedIn
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Either you didn't quote the post you meant to reply to, thought I was replying to a post other than the "Ian is short for Brian" one or you're somehow replying to the joke in a way that is going way over my head.
    I most certainly quoted the wrong post.

    Mine was a reply to Bernanke. But let’s pretend I made an ultra clever joke, yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    I most certainly quoted the wrong post.

    Mine was a reply to Bernanke. But let’s pretend I made an ultra clever joke, yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    I think it's a mixture of on the job and professional qualification (CIMA, ACCA, ACA).

    Spikes, I imagine the complexity is in the details of how you treat certain items.
    100%

    I did accounting in college here and have worked in tax for 10 years since. The majority is on the job training, but the degree provides great grounding for the various accounting segments we interact with.

    It feels like the course selection provides you just enough to be dangerous but nowhere near enough to get you ready for the real world in any capacity. Example being my one tax class focused on personal income tax but didn't touch various business taxes in any way. We generally hire anyone with a degree in the finance world though to keep it somewhat relevant.

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    Law degree, law job. Doesn't come much more vanilla really.

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    I'm sitting here on what I believe to be day 4 of Covid isolation (I tested pos 11pm Thursday so I take Thurs to be day 0), with what is still a shitty head cold, my shitty laptop open to WFH, desperately trying to smash out the backlog of quotes and orders from over the weekend. What do I get from the MD? A challenge to my interpretation of the covid rules, i.e. that it is actually day 5 and if I test negative tonight I should be in the office tomorrow.

    I get that he's probably desperate given several people in the department have covid at once, and the South Africans are in this week so he probably wants to present a full office, but you know what, I did the fucking time back in 2020 when I covered three people's work for months while they cynically claimed furlough money despite the workload not really dropping that much. He was the one who has consistently not put any covid measures in place for two years, and then he acts all hurt when it finally rips through the office. I have no desire whatsoever to be on my own in this 1 bed flat for a second longer than necessary, and on Friday afternoon I was still trying to do business for him from bed with a heavy fever while he swanned off to the golf course on a half day. He can absolutely get fucked.

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    Play the game Jim. Just say you did a test and it's positive. You're probably safe to actually do the test, as there's no chance you'll be negative. This whole 5 day thing is bollocks. Nobody is negative on day 5.

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    Or, better yet, call in sick for the week and give us a Leatherhead FC FM save to read through.

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    You can kiss that £44k goodbye. I'm trying to enjoy what might be my last week working from home. I'm waiting on a new token to keep me working from home (basically a random number generator) but the DWP have gone suspiciously quiet on that.

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    Loyalty really brings no rewards.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...-public-sector

    The WFH war is not over but we need to distribute our weaponry and manpower across both fronts.

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    How do you people do this? My back is already killing me.

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    Office furniture on sale to the public is quite the phenomena.

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    I brought my chair home from work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    How do you people do this? My back is already killing me.
    Wait, you're actually doing work? Don't tell Giggles.
    I'm a twit

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    I just sold an oil filter to someone calling themselves 'Lionel Messi UK' so luckily I can now afford to punt £400k on the two bed flat I would need to be able to house a comfortable working environment.

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    I'm looking out the window as I work from home and there's a dad who has brought two small boys to the park with a football. He's also brought his own stand-up goal (with net), which he has set up on the 18 yard line of the marked pitch, so that the D forms a kind of goal zone. Both boys are wearing Newcastle Utd tops. He's then donned goalkeeping gloves and is getting them to shoot at him (from outside the D), hasn't let a single one in yet.

    Older boy must be six tops.

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    That is an improvement on my Leeds supporting colleague who puts his ten year old in nets and pings absolute thunderbastards at him for an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    That is an improvement on my Leeds supporting colleague who puts his ten year old in nets and pings absolute thunderbastards at him for an hour.
    This has suddenly brought back a memory from my football days as a kid. Our U-10 team used to train indoor at a local sports hall with 5 a side goals. For a laugh once, we did a Kids v Dads game.

    There was, of course, one dad who took it way too seriously and was shoulder barging 9 year olds full force into the walls. A few dads told him to "chill out, Mick" but he insisted "It's a man's game" and carried on. After a few minutes of kids literally running away from the ball when he was nearby, his final act was to volley the ball into the face of the 9 year old goalkeeper, which nearly ended up in a fist fight with the kid's dad.

    He got his son and went home in a strop, and neither was ever seen again.

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    I have a friend that flat out refuses to let his son win at anything. He says that it builds character because nobody let's you win in the real world.

    I countered that he may be taking Hungry Hippo's a little too seriously and that a childhood full of failure may have some negative impact on self esteem, but nah. Apparently not.

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    Spoken like a true failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    This has suddenly brought back a memory from my football days as a kid. Our U-10 team used to train indoor at a local sports hall with 5 a side goals. For a laugh once, we did a Kids v Dads game.

    There was, of course, one dad who took it way too seriously and was shoulder barging 9 year olds full force into the walls. A few dads told him to "chill out, Mick" but he insisted "It's a man's game" and carried on. After a few minutes of kids literally running away from the ball when he was nearby, his final act was to volley the ball into the face of the 9 year old goalkeeper, which nearly ended up in a fist fight with the kid's dad.

    He got his son and went home in a strop, and neither was ever seen again.
    There was a tenant in my Dad's place who used to play football with me and my friends (10-12 I'd say) in my Dad's garden. He'd always hack us down, shoulder barge us etc etc and he once hit a volley into my face from just a few yards out.

    He was such a prick.

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    Believe me now Manc?

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    Touché.

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    My Dad let me win at things though.

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    Got it all out the way early then.

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    Looking for jobs and this popped up:



    Get on it @Don.

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