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    I've liked Gervais stand up in the past and he can deliver some decent jokes but the last two Netflix clips I've seen seem to suggest he just likes to take the easiest path and punch down. I've never really liked anything he's done sitcom wise -the bits of extras I've wasted are ok, Derek not seen and afterlife was unbelievable garbage.

    Karl going abroad was excellent though

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    Karl going abroad was "punching down" too.

    I think when I'm King of the Universe that might me one of the first terms I throw in the bin. This mindset of not being able to challenge ridiculousness because it's coming from a Trans-person or a "person of colour" is half the reason the world is such a festering shithole at the moment.
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    He should stop punching down against everything that every major institution believes and do more jokes about starving kids and the religions I don't like.

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    He needs some new material desperately. The last 2 I watched were basically just him reliving his Twitter E-victories against Trans-people and repeatedly bringing up Caitlyn Jenner. I don't care if he's punching up, down or doing windmills, there's only so many times you can trott out the same tired bollocks before even your fans get bored of it.

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    His award show trolling was amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    He should stop punching down against everything that every major institution believes and do more jokes about starving kids and the religions I don't like.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Karl going abroad was "punching down" too.

    I think when I'm King of the Universe that might me one of the first terms I throw in the bin. This mindset of not being able to challenge ridiculousness because it's coming from a Trans-person or a black woman is half the reason the world is such a festering shithole at the moment.
    He's not even challenging trans people but more the ludicrous group of people who think JK Rowling is the worst person in the World. It's clear as day that's where he's coming from so it's disingenuous to claim he's punching down.

    The Office was brilliant, Extras very good (but probably of its time) and After Life was alright until Season 3 where it turned into a saccharine mess. His stand up has been pretty good, up until the last two which have been shit and as you say, in desperate need of new material.

    He's made a load of money in the US because he's a genuinely funny individual. His Golden Globe performances were great and I still maintain (when introducing Sir Mel) "I like a drink as much as the next man, unless the next man is Mel Gibson" is a line that's up there with the very best.

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    Meet Ricky Gervais was mega as well (or was when I saw them years and years ago) to say him and Merchant seem to be ashamed of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I still maintain (when introducing Sir Mel) "I like a drink as much as the next man, unless the next man is Mel Gibson" is a line that's up there with the very best.
    Really?

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    Nah, you've changed my mind.

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    The main problem with shit comedians (Rosie Jones included) is that they pop up everywhere. Cooking shows, podcasts, book clubs, quizzes (hosting or contesting), late night talk shows. It's fucking relentless.

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    Saw this on the RickyGervais subreddit and it genuinely made me lol. You'll need to be an Extras fan to understand it.

    I met Ricky and asked him about After Life. He sounded like Patrick Stewart...

    Ricky - "So I play this guy who's wife is dead and I run into these street thugs and I hit one with a tin of dog food but before they run off, I've called them c**ts."

    Me - "OK. It's a comedy, is it?

    Ricky - "No…… It's about what would happen if my power fantasies were possible".

    Me - "What's the story though, what's the....?

    Ricky - "Well, I do other stuff like there are these other street thugs riding their bike and I grab their hammer but before they ride off, I've called them c**ts."

    Me - So it's mainly you going around calling people c**ts?"

    Ricky - "Mainly..................And I do other stuff like I play squash with my brother in law and he's 20 years younger and 10 stone lighter and I wish I was able to beat him and suddenly I am. And I score the winning point, and I'm drinking and vomiting and my brother in law starts having a heart attack but before the ambulance comes...."

    Me - "You call him a c**t?

    Ricky - "Instantly"

    Me - "Sure"

    Ricky - "And he doesn't know what's happening but I've called....."

    Me - ....."him a c**t...."

    Ricky - "Again"

    Me - "Good....is there a narrative at all, is there like a story in the show, or is it just...."

    Ricky - "Well I'm a sort of James Bond figure...."

    Me - "Right..."

    Ricky - "And I have to walk around my town because everyone loves me and they're all women telling me I'm amazing, even though everything I say and do is horrible. And one of them is on a bench calling me an angel, two are in the office saying they love the story about my dead wife"

    Me - "They've turned lunatic"

    Ricky - "Yeah because I've been talking about her for so long"

    Me - "That can happen. Well good luck with that. I've just written a sitcom. I wondered if you could give it to anyone you know?"

    Ricky - "Is there any swearing in it?"

    Me - "Not really"

    Ricky - "Oh...." (looks downcast)

    Me - "Well there could be"

    Ricky - "C**ts or f**ks?

    Me - "Either"

    Ricky - "Errh..." (looks downcast)

    Me - "Well, just c**ts"

    Ricky - "RIght" (beaming smile)

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    S5 of Fargo is brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Nah, you've changed my mind.
    You'd enjoy Don Rickles.

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    'Why is he here, is the war over?'

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    'Fool Me Once' on Netflix. Absolute tripe, but strangely enjoyable, and I could watch Adeel Akhtar in anything.

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    And Michelle keegan.

    Joanna Lumley not so much

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    Joanna Lumley's scenes are all in one room and clearly done in a single afternoon after about 10 sherries. A magnificent turn from her. Michelle Keegan keeps saying WHYYY in that Karl Pilkington Manc way and leaning over tables to show her cleavage. Ep 4 sees a Chinese shrink called 'Dr Wu' (I swear every Chinese person on TV is called Dr Wu) pointlessly introduced to complete all the major ethnicities. It's pure Netflix.

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    The show just feels like every other Harlan Coben show. Utter shite but alright to binge over an evening or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    'Fool Me Once' on Netflix. Absolute tripe, but strangely enjoyable, and I could watch Adeel Akhtar in anything.
    Back to Life is well worth a watch.

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    Finished season 3 of Slow Horses. It's so good. Gary Oldman is brilliant.

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    My dad was raving about that. He’s watched it through twice now. Might give it a go.
    I'm a twit

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    We're just onto the last episode of series 1. Agreed it's great, Gary Oldman is magic.

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    I've wanted to watch that for a while but there are only so many monthly subscriptions that can be justified.

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    I thought the recent season was the weakest to date (too many bangs, too little spy craft for my taste), but still very easy watching.

    Almost finished The Crown, just four episodes to go. I think the critics are right that the final season is not as strong in terms of storylines, but it's still a good watch.

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    Yeah I feel like they got a bigger budget and went a bit Spooks with it, hopefully the next storyline goes back to it's roots a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I've wanted to watch that for a while but there are only so many monthly subscriptions that can be justified.
    I recently got a three month free trial of it by signing up for "Currys Perks", which itself was free to sign up to. I assume it's some sort of reward scheme for the store in question. I just immediately opted out of the emails a soon as I had got the Apple trial though, which came through after a couple of days.

    https://www.currys.co.uk/perks.html

    It would appear they are still doing it.

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    I've watched the first episode of Fool Me Once, based on how much the Irish chap has been in it as a cheery friend he's got to be the big baddie. I've not seen or read any Harlan Coben stuff before so I hope it's just the schlocky nonsense I'm expecting rather than stupid supernatural stuff based on the weird cult bit at the very start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfswjyr View Post
    I thought the recent season was the weakest to date (too many bangs, too little spy craft for my taste), but still very easy watching.
    Yeah, fair point. I did think the end of season 3 was a bit unrealistic but I still very much enjoyed the whole thing.

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    Mr Bates vs. the Post Office is excellent and the story truly horrifying. All involved from the Post Office senior management should be in prison.

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    It's mental they don't have to involve the police in prosecutions.

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    At some point they need an accuser to come forward before they can do owt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Mr Bates vs. the Post Office is excellent and the story truly horrifying. All involved from the Post Office senior management should be in prison.
    I need to find time for this to see if Toby Jones can maintain his 100% record (obviously he will).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    'Fool Me Once' on Netflix. Absolute tripe, but strangely enjoyable, and I could watch Adeel Akhtar in anything.
    I've started on this and I'm 3 episodes in now.

    I'm not sure why I enjoy it.

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    I'm midway through 7 now, it's almost like there are two concurrent shows going on with Adeel absolutely acting himself off the screen, and everyone else putting in the most wooden turns imaginable.

    The intermittent car product placement gets the biggest laughs.

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    Still don’t get the point of the Irishman in it all.

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    I wouldn't mind being wrapped around Michelle Keegan's little finger tbh.

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    1 episode down for me and absolutely with the absolute tripe but enjoyable take.

    There's something about Harlan Coben adaptations that mean they're always littered with characters who don't seem real and not in the unbelievable sense (as that's a given) but more that they're being played by aliens or robots pretending to be humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I need to find time for this to see if Toby Jones can maintain his 100% record (obviously he will).
    He does. He basically plays the same character in everything he's ever in, but fuck me is he good at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    I wouldn't mind being wrapped around Michelle Keegan's little finger tbh.
    You want her to finger your arsehole?

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    The irony of this miscarriage of justice being brought to the forefront is that, isn’t this exactly the same period where that postman managed to nick like 6 million quid from the post office to bet on under 16 Taiwanese tennis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    He does. He basically plays the same character in everything he's ever in, but fuck me is he good at it.
    'Vaguely disabled-looking man'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I need to find time for this to see if Toby Jones can maintain his 100% record (obviously he will).
    Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom was a low point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom was a low point.
    As Sir Christopher said, "Every actor has to make terrible films from time to time, but the trick is never to be terrible in them.".

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    Into the 7th episode of Fool Me Once and it's turning from enjoyable bilge into interminable bilge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Joanna Lumley's scenes are all in one room and clearly done in a single afternoon after about 10 sherries.
    This is soo bang on.

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    The 8th and final episode is absolute pure nonsense. I got to the end though so I suppose that is to its credit.

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    I'd assumed it was 10 episodes, so 8 is excellent news. On the final straight.

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    Why you all watching it if it’s no good?
    I'm a twit

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    Because it's strangely gripping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The 8th and final episode is absolute pure nonsense.
    Fuck me, isn't it just.

    I've just realised there's another 4 or 5 of these Coben things on Netflix I haven't seen.

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