Seems Spurs have won a cup...
Figuring out what a Cole Palmer is and why it's worth 42.5m quid
Saudi oil money everywhere
Chelsea Boehl money everywhere
United rummaging around in the bargain bin
It being done for another few months
Something sensible like your club actually signing somebody decent
Seems Spurs have won a cup...
Kulusevski is awful.
It's always the draws that kill you come the end of the season so good foresight to not rack up another.
These north Londoners will never learnOriginally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
All that has done is convince me this Liverpool team is going the right way.
Becoming horrible to beat even with red cards.
Small clubs are always at it.
I'm guessing Jurgen isn't coming out for a pitchside interview with the Sky crew?
Also quite funny that the PGMOL have completely gone into the bunker on Diaz's goal. What was that, an hour and half ago? You would have thought you could get your story worked out in that time frame.
Can we just get rid of it all now [appreciate that would also have ruled the goal out]?
I don’t think personally the Jones one is a red. But, if it’s given as a red you can see the reasoning behind it. However, when the ref gives a yellow I don’t think you can say it’s ‘clear and obvious’ it should be a red.
As for Jota it was idiotic from him with the second challenge. Not sure how much contact there was on either yellow but the second you dive in the second time you give the ref the chance to make a decision.
I thought Ten Hag had been on the crack pipe the other week with his ‘the lines are drawn from the wrong place.’ But what the fuck is going on with that Diaz one? Show the lines and prove it’s off because it looks onside to me and definitely felt tight enough that it should have been 2 minutes drawing the lines but it was checked in about 20 seconds.
Significant human error.
PGMOL admit Luis Diaz offside decision was wrong
A statement from the refereeing body, the PGMOL:
PGMOL acknowledge a significant human error occurred during the first half of Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool.
The goal by Luiz Diaz was disallowed for offside by the on-field team of match officials. This was a clear and obvious factual error and should have resulted in the goal being awarded through VAR intervention, however, the VAR failed to intervene.
PGMOL will conduct a full review into the circumstances which led to the error.
"Robbed" "Scrap VAR" and "Replay" are all trending
Another weekend of var being shit. It brings no value, bin it off and save the game.
Liverpool deserved that after VAR pretended Lukaku was offside in the cup final the other year
Can we just get rid of VAR? It's an absolute cancer from a match going perspective and, as Andros Townsend aptly pointed out, it just seems to have injected another layer of human error into the officiating process rather than having 'got rid of the howlers'. And, to make matters worse, things seem to have gone wildly wrong this year. Liverpool have managed two clear errors in, what, 7 games [assuming Mac Allister's overturned red counts as that even though the Howard Webb Apology wasn't forthcoming on that one]? That's a bit of a worrying rate isn't it? City had that goal against Fulham given which all sense suggested shouldn't have been [apology?] and Wolves got the shaft at United [apology?], no doubt there are more [Gary Neville now 'worried' about offside so maybe Crack Pipe Erik was onto something]. Brighton clocked up 3 apologies last season, two of which [Palace and Spurs] were significant and could well have been viewed as having cost them a spot in the top 4. I'm not sure what the solution is now that Pandora's box has been opened, but somehow it needs to be shut. Offisde should probably been as automated as possible with tracking taken off those man bra trackers they all wear [but even then you have the problem of apparent actual spastics being tasked with making it work]. You could say coach's challenge, but the reality is that football really doesn't lend itself to this sort of stuff, so if we could just draw the line at goal line and some sort of automated offside that would be grand. Although they even fucked up the goal line once didn't they [and relegated someone on the back of it]?
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Coaches challenge flag. Just like the NFL. Get it in there.
That'd be rubbish, and wouldn't work as it would wreck the flow of the game. There are no pauses for the challenge to be operable within, so what time limit do you put on it?
Goal line tech and wait until ai can give instant offside calls.
Or like cricket. You've 15 seconds after an incident to do the DRS sign down the camera for dramatic effect.
I have doubts about the challenge system.
The bigger issue is that VAR has ruined actual on the pitch refereeing. In that AEK game the other week the first penalty not being given seemed fair enough to me as it looked like Joao Pedro was looking for it, but every man and his dog in the stadium could see the defender had just booted him for the second and yet there was nothing doing. You put the safety net there, the refs rely on the safety net too much, which means the VAR has to be more interventionist, which just leads to more errors because they clearly start 'looking for things'.
The answer is to get rid of it.
Of course it is. Why did we ever need every decision to be perfect anyway?
Got done for pressing too high 20 seconds before the goal.
Really like this team though. More somehow than I expected I would. Agreed with others that it has that 2017-18 feeling where anything can happen in any game. Which deep down I might prefer to the optimized clinical couple years that followed, though obviously they were amazing too.
True but you reap the rewards of such bravery as per Newcastle game so net gain +2 pts with that attitude. The juggernaut that is the Brexit Gammon Man continuing to ruin VAR/The Game. Good weekend all in all thanks to Wolves.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/24217...pporters-cops/
I love things like this. The thought processes behind the initial act, the reaction, the police inevitably getting involved.
Whilst it's a pretty deplorable act, fundamentally they've done nothing more than hold up a photo so why are the police involved and taking it "very seriously"?
Because people are soft.
I'm a twit
Modern hate crime.
I'm quite enjoying the rumoured goings on behind that offside goal being that the VARs [yes multiple] did all the right work, drew the lines etc and realised the goal should have stood but when it came to communicating that fact to the ref the FULL VAR shat the bed and just said CHECK COMPLETE! and that was that. Seems a little mind bottling, and also a bit unbelievable given the time turnaround.
That Gordon penalty is another example of him moving towards the tackler [and away from the ball].
Another soft one but the ref gave it immediately. Such is Gordon's conviction at the art of falling over.
Do they record all the VARs or did they just do it that once for banter? If the former, let's have the little black box, it'll probs lead to the death of the cancer (VAR, not Brexit Gammon Man).
Lautaro on as a sub and scores all 4 goals in 27 minutes.
I think they do, but I don't think the last release played all that well so I doubt they're going to release the one where one of them says I've got Son FGS.
They seem to be taking this as as only Liverpool fans can. Twitter is awash with conspiracy theories and replay shouts
Because there's a refereeing conspiracy against my favourite team.
This is a blatant red btw.
They think this is a penalty?
With that one, if you consider the divergence of opinion (with virtually every former player lining up to say it wasn't) I'm not sure the error was sufficiently clear and obvious to warrant a change to the on field decision, unless freeze frame imagery is also a 'factual matter' a la offside.
If I was less lazy I'd dig out a freeze frame of Gusto and Nketiah from last week, and of the three the worst actual tackle was the only one not upgraded by the VAR.
I think the bigger concern is how it is presented to the referee as a fait accomplis on the screen, but this equally applies to almost every other 'I think you need to have a look at this' VAR referral.
Slo-motion has a seriously distortive effect on decision making (seen in other sports such as cricket with catches near the ground) but I don't know how you compensate for that. It manifested itself first with handball (the one Croatia got done with the WC final a classic example) but now it is in every part of the review process.
I was getting bored of football anyway as I'm old and I've seen most things now, but I think VAR is genuinely proving to be the final nail in the coffin. It's just absolutely horrid, on every level.
Have to say being in the Championship now, one of the nice things is knowing that if a goal goes in or a penalty is given you are sure that’s what happened. No endless waiting around in the ground for them to find a reason to ruin fun.
'Outraging public decency' is what they're being held on. There have been a couple of laws/acts passed recently over this kind of stuff.
Indeed. It would still be shit if it got every decision ‘right’, but it can’t even do that.
Spikey should probably change his avatar.
I'm a twit
Leave my boy alone
Once you go over the ball and into the player like that, you're in dangerous tackle territory. I'm not sure how can argue it's a bad decision or contentious.
But anyway, I'd be happy for something like that retrospectively looked at and banned rather than in game.
Anyone arguing that isn't a red is braindead.
It's not even one of these "new" red cards either. There have been many of them over the past few seasons alone.
But yeah, Liverpool innit.
It's not September anymore, dickheads.
What we're discussing happened in September though. Dickhead.
And it's not our fault Ian is a dirty great slacker.
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