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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    Oh dear, we've all ignored Leclerc.
    I don't like how he leaves the door open to be overtaken. Not that a Mercedes is likely to have that problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Is Gasly that bad? I'd say Verstappen has no right to have that car anywhere near the Ferraris, and Gasly is more or less where you'd expect him to be.
    He certainly looks it this year. He isn't of course, he's just been thrown in too early and is way off the pace as a result. It's hurting the team as well, Verstappen would have won that race at the weekend had his team mate been anywhere near the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Same goes for Valentino Rossi's bike records. Never thought I'd see someone up on those so soon.

    Lewis' run has been great. He and Schumi have some good parallels when you consider they both had that torrid stint where they drove the wheels off absolute shite.
    Who and what record of Rossi's is close to being beaten?

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    Now that I've actually look at the record books, none

    He'll have Agostini's record for title wins (8) before he wraps up. He already has most pole positions. One more pole at CoTAs or Sachsenring and he'll have record for poles at the same venue. He's 25 off Valentino's record for fastest laps, half-way to Valentino's record for wins. Some of Agostini's records are near impossible to beat. I cannot see me living to see anyone win 20 races in a row. Or 100% a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Now that I've actually look at the record books, none

    He'll have Agostini's record for title wins (8) before he wraps up. He already has most pole positions. One more pole at CoTAs or Sachsenring and he'll have record for poles at the same venue. He's 25 off Valentino's record for fastest laps, half-way to Valentino's record for wins. Some of Agostini's records are near impossible to beat. I cannot see me living to see anyone win 20 races in a row. Or 100% a season.
    He ain't winning any more titles Rossi is. I am a massive fan of his but his ship has sailed. Can't teach an old dog new tricks. Yamaha bikes are shit now(at least that factory duo) and Rossi is past it and just clinging on for dear life. Marc Marquez is going to break all of his records and Agostini's,on account of having no one to challenge him properly,he is 26 years old and already has 5 premier class championships.

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    Yeah, should've phrased that better. The paragraph was about Marquez. The thing about Honda is they've not really done a bad bike. Valentino's hung around for just too long as he's become more of a brand than an actual threat. I'll say this, though: You never know when a new Spanish wonderkid will pop through. I had high hopes for Vinales, I still have hopes for Mir.

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    My money is on that Quartararo fellow,he seems to have decent pace and he has been climbing through the ranks pretty fast.I just wish Rossi would just retire and make his own team. You know he would attract the best mechanics in the field and could also see the return of Honda if that happens(him making a team that is).

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    I haven't watched moto go in years.
    I stopped watching it after Norris Abe (I think that was his name) retired. He had a different style on the bike that looked wicked and unique.

    Is Marquez that small guy who had a lean angle where his head was on the floor and he won like 15 races in a row?
    Last edited by SincereTheRebel; 09-08-2019 at 04:38 AM.

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    Yep. Elbows out. Rossi putting his own MotGP team out makes the most sense. He already does that at Moto3 level and has an academy of riders. Slap his sponsors on a satellite Yamaha and go.

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    Albon and Gasly have swapped seats. That'll be Red Bull sorted for next year, but you'd imagine 2 new drivers for Toro Rosso.

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    Marko is an absolute moron. You put any kid in this car and they will get pumped by Max.

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    Awful decision, this could ruin Albon before he even started.

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    I've just realised they're doing it this season. Fuck me.

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    Sato with a fucking deathwish this weekend.

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    There is a bit of that in every Japanese driver, just like there is a honking cheat in every German, a scheming piece of shit in every French, and a whining little girl in every British.

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    Man, I'd have happily kept Heidfeld around for his big cheat moment. Taking Renault to court doesn't count. They fucked him over.

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    They had Suzuka 89 on F1 tv where Senna and Prost collided.

    Senna broke his front wing when he collided with Prost and had pit
    Senna had to then do a full lap without a front wing
    Senna flew down the pit lane (didn't look like there was any speed limit?)
    Mechanics in jeans and shirts changed his front wing
    Senna came out of the pit with about 6 laps left, in second place and only five seconds behind the leader.
    Senna won by five seconds but was disqualified

    Some mad car advantage he seemed to have. It was complete madness.

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    Yeah, pit lane limits came into force after Imola 94. Senna drove out of his skin but nothing mattered because push-starts weren't allowed. Ballestri seemed to forget about this and made up some bollocks about track limits. Or Senna made it up, like how me reckoned the grid had been swapped a year later.

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    That race won by Sandro Nannini, who promptly did a Kubica in a chopper accident which ended his career.

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    Very similar injuries, both almost lost a hand. I still have the Scalectric version of that Benetton in a box somewhere.

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    There's just been a major crash in the F2 race at Spa.

    Looks like 2 cars collided just after Au Rouge flattens out and went into the wall on the right. One of the cars has been torn in half and the other didn't look in great shape either. I wouldn't be surprised if both guys aren't fighting for their lives.


    EDIT: After seeing footage of someone in the crowd, the first car hits the wall on the right I'm guessing after losing it over the crest. His car then rolls back into the road and another goes head on into the side of the car at full speed.
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    Just seen it. You're hoping you just get broken ankles and a concussion from something like that.

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    Antoine Hubert died from that crash

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    Christ.

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    Having seen the footage I'm really not surprised. He's been speared at what must be the best part of 180mph.

    Any news on the other driver?

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    Stable condition, apparently.

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    The poor bastard never had a chance. Only 22 as well.

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    Horrible for everyone involved, can't imagine how Correa is going to feel after that. Wouldn't be surprised to see some re-modelling of that part of the track. This cold easily have happened when Ericson had a similar accident a couple of years ago.

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    Was it the same spot where Bellof and Ickx collided all those years ago? I have no real desire to watch it.

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    Top of the hill after Eau Rouge, looks like Hubert lost it and hit the barrier then came back onto the track. Correa came along with absolutely no chance to react and hit him in the side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    Wouldn't be surprised to see some re-modelling of that part of the track. This cold easily have happened when Ericson had a similar accident a couple of years ago.
    I dunno. You touch Eau Rouge at your peril. The tire wall did it's job with Magnussen's crash but Hubert got spat back out.
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    Jesus, Mary and Joseph.

    That accident was fucked up. The car was cut in two.

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    Verstappen

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    I think that one was on Kimi. He just cut through both cars on his right. First corner, give some space ffs.

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    Kimi would have absolutely no way of seeing Max coming. Max acknowledged as much after the race. His mistake imo trying too hard to recover after a poor getaway. Gutted for Norris - had to ditch it on the pit straight from fifth at the start of the last lap. Brilliant drive.

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    Kimi is Mr Racing Room, he'd have left space if he thought someone was going to be there. That one is on Max more than anyone else.

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    It's a racing incident, no one is really at fault. Kimi had just passed that car, so he needs to know someone might be there and leave room. Max should also know that he won't be visible in his mirrors, play it safe, and drop back. None of them played it safe, both of them wanted to hit the apex and not lose any time, which is how you end up with contact. I guess that if we need to assign fault, more has to go to Verstappen, since he is the one behind.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/49619035



    After seeing some frank explanations of how the accident came about, the track was a factor but there was just an awful combination of drivers taking the same evasive actions. I suspect, if they can, they'll modify Radillon so the tire wall on the left (the side Alesi hit) is further back.

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    Another whopper this morning - driver and marshals fine, apparently.

    https://twitter.com/F1FeederSeries1/...64963124015104

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    What did he run over? that cant be a raised Kerb, nobody is that stupid. That corner is stupid fast to put one there

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    It's one of those little sausage kerbs, driver and marshals very lucky.

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    Fuck me what a shambles.

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    Am I really reading right that all but 1 driver left the pitlane too late to get a final lap in? How does that even happen?

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    They left in time but then all bumbled around on the outlap trying not to be first in the queue (and give everyone else a slipstream), the upshot being only Sainz got over the line before the chequered flag went out.

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    Vettel has been out qualified by that lad from Monaco about 10 races in a row now.

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    Whoever the director is on this needs shooting, stop cutting away from the race to show a load of plebs in the crowd.

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    Black flag Vettel and Stroll for that bollocks.

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    Depends on the angle whether they could see properly but both of those looked bad.

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    That was a monster drive from Leclerc. Vettel is all over the place. He defended really well. Mercedes should be complaining further to the stewards, just because they can.

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