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  • West Ham - Currently 5th

    13 50.00%
  • Southampton - Currently 6th

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  • Manchester United - Currently 9th

    1 3.85%
  • Manchester City - Currently 11th

    7 26.92%
  • Arsenal - Currently 14th

    1 3.85%
  • Sheffield United - Currently 20th

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Thread: December football: Who's most out of place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Then he shouldn't have gotten into a job that sees him work with people from different cultures and races.

    Yeah tbf he should've just stook to his own. Send the bastard back.

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    lol if Leipzig bottle this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Then he shouldn't have gotten into a job that sees him work with people from different cultures and races.
    You referring to the Turk who nicked your cambird as 'Mert's cousin' was racist.

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    Mahow making a strong case for his exclusion from all areas where women may be present there.

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    Didn’t even notice it was 3-2. Did they let that Pogba header stand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    Yeah tbf he should've just stook to his own. Send the bastard back.
    Not what I was saying.

    If you get a job which sees you work with people from different cultures and races you have to be aware of those things and adapt to be more inclusive.

    You can't just claim ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Not what I was saying.

    If you get a job which sees you work with people from different cultures and races you have to be aware of those things and adapt to be more inclusive.

    You can't just claim ignorance.
    He was literally speaking in his native tongue. The word for black in his native tongue sounds deceptively like 'Negro'.

    If he'd said "that negro there" in English, I'd buy it.

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    He called him "the black".

    That's not a descriptive term and there was no need for him to have even used the word, he was literally pointing at Webo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    He called him "the black".
    Trying to do such extremely literal translations is surely nonsense. If Romanians are telling you it means "the black guy" then I think it's pretty reasonable to accept that, rather than arguing that ACKSHUALLY the direct translation is "the black".

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    But what do 4chan make of it?

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    If we are getting all pedantic about using descriptive terms for people I’d like to formally petition that “bald” to be classified as offensive and prohibited from use.

    Sounds like a storm in a tea cup based on translation for me. People are always going to use a unique identifier for a person in a group: fat, bald, ginger, tall, girl, guy and skin colour sits in there too. If the coaching staff was all black, would the coach not be pointed out as the white guy? Is that racist?

    Interested to hear what Black Lives Matter is referred to/translated as in Romania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    It is literally "the black guy". My missus was born in Bucharest, not just done a course on the language. Same way she studied English for multiple years but still gets definitions and such mixed up, he has done the same.

    There is context, subtext, situation etc, as there is with all language.

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    'Which one?'
    'The... The man. The mister man. Him there. The one nearest the man stood next to... The old and bald...'

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    The internet lives for this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    It is literally "the black guy". My missus was born in Bucharest, not just done a course on the language. Same way she studied English for multiple years but still gets definitions and such mixed up, he has done the same.

    There is context, subtext, situation etc, as there is with all language.


    She should write to Google and tell them they fucked up too.

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    I’d say Millwall are glad anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    I'm glad this guy was here to tell the Romanians what their language means.

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    You absolutely would say 'the white one' and nobody would give a shit. Race exists. Skin colours exist. If you have a white man and a black man standing next to each other and you have to select one of them for whatever reason; 'the black one' is a perfectly valid answer.

    Jesus wept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post


    She should write to Google and tell them they fucked up too.
    Read the post, 'how. Its situational usage. Language isnt always literal.

    Google translate, jesus christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    I'm glad this guy was here to tell the Romanians what their language means.
    Yeah, he should have told us via actual Romanians on Reddit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post


    She should write to Google and tell them they fucked up too.
    The precise meanings of words change depending on context in every language you absolute autist.
    Last edited by randomlegend; 08-12-2020 at 10:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Yeah, he should have told us via actual Romanians on Reddit...
    Given you've got DS posting that his actual Romanian partner has corroborated exactly what they said, I'm not sure what kind of point you're trying to make other than to shout "LOLOLOL REDDIT I WIN" like a 4 year old.

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    Man Utd lads absolutely on tilt. Lewis, get involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    I'm glad this guy was here to tell the Romanians what their language means.
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    Floyd and 'Daws' have had a shocking lockdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    The precise meanings of words change depending on context in every language you absolute autist.
    Thats "autist absolut" in Romanian mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Man Utd lads absolutely on tilt. Lewis, get involved.
    I'd tell you to savour our bitterness, but, well, y'know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
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    Floyd and 'Daws' have had a shocking lockdown.

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    Micah Richards has been on reddit and boy is he getting some stick from BLM for it.

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    Imagine looking like that and broadcasting the fact you moved to Romania just to shame a fourth official. It would be like Gary Glitter moaning that nowhere sells proper toffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    He called him "the black".

    That's not a descriptive term and there was no need for him to have even used the word, he was literally pointing at Webo.
    Why say The Black ?

    Because saying "That gentleman with the huge nostrils and shiny head" is not economical.

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    Pages of this stuff when it's very simple.

    Anyone doing the 'Romanian culture says x' may as well don a Suarez is innocent shirt.

    He's an official, he's held to higher standards than some Romanian bloke off the street.

    He wouldn't identify the other staff by race. I highly doubt he'd identify one of the coaches as 'the arab' or 'the yellow one'.

    All the players asked for was to have that one official, the 4th official, removed from the officiating team and they refused.

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    Referring to people by their physical characteristics is now racist. V.interesting.

    The yellow skinned lady next to me will be surprised.

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    To those who think it's racist... Does this mean you shouldn't refer to a 'chinese bloke' in a group of he's the only Chinese lad? Or even a woman? This isn't a straw man - it's genuine - if we can't refer to people by physical characteristics, what can we use?

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    Turkish side leading the fight on racism?

    Next week Rolf Harris stands up for victims of the Catholic church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    To those who think it's racist... Does this mean you shouldn't refer to a 'chinese bloke' in a group of he's the only Chinese lad? Or even a woman? This isn't a straw man - it's genuine - if we can't refer to people by physical characteristics, what can we use?
    If you want to go that route you can try not to say something that sounds extroadinarily like the gook/chink/insert other slur here.

    What if he'd said the Paki bloke to refer to someone that was clearly from Pakistan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    If you want to go that route you can try not to say something that sounds extroadinarily like the gook/chink/insert other slur here.

    What if he'd said the Paki bloke to refer to someone that was clearly from Pakistan?
    'Paki' is offensive, that's the point.

    Black, or Chinese, or red headed is not offensive.

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    "Which car is yours Dave?"

    The African American one over there.

    "Huh? the black one?"

    Don't say that you paki bastard!
    Last edited by Spikey M; 09-12-2020 at 07:29 AM.

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    Well this escalated slowly.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    If you want to go that route you can try not to say something that sounds extroadinarily like the gook/chink/insert other slur here.

    What if he'd said the Paki bloke to refer to someone that was clearly from Pakistan?
    How would you know someone was 'clearly' from Pakistan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    How would you know someone was 'clearly' from Pakistan?

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    I like the idea that it's the Officials fault that 'Black' in his language has a passing resemblance to 'Negro'. What is he meant to do, pull out a Dulux Colour Chart?

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    He could be an Indian getting bantered on his stag weekend.

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    If you've played enough shit club cricket you can tell a Pakistani from an Indian at 100 paces. When I used to captain, as soon as I saw anyone with a beard and/or green helmet get out of their chair to bat next, an extra cow corner would go in. 'Strategic racism', I used to call it.

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    George W said 'the Pakis' that time, so I'm not sure it even has offensive connotations beyond a few countries. I bet backwards Romanians would throw it round without knowing.

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    Who was the commentator that got in trouble for saying Niggardly? He's not alone, whoever it was.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cont...word_niggardly

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
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    Anyone doing the 'Romanian culture says x' may as well don a Suarez is innocent shirt.
    We did this the other day. Suarez said shit like he kicked Evra "because he is black". You'd have to have been lobotomised not to see the difference.

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    He clearly said 'the black guy'. You would say 'the white guy' if, say, you were refereeing a Chicago public school basketball game, because it's a useful descriptor if he's the only white guy on the court. Similarly if there's only one black guy in the coaching staff. Romanians are full of malice from top to bottom though, so I guess you could assume anything you wanted to about his intentions

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    Lol what

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