Oof.
I'm watching this live and Rubio is getting slaughtered. It's amazing. He just said that same Obama spiel for a fourth time and people started booing.
Christie went full Jersey on him.
That was one of the biggest donnage you'll see. Better than Maury, this.
Edit: Or at least it was until the foreign policy talk started yet again. The only shit they ever talk about.
Chris Christie would be a crap President in many ways, but he's fat and he likes mouthing off, so he could also be brilliant. You could imagine the wankers in the Foreign Office thinking they've got him sussed, only for him to lay one of them out because he thought they were tryna' be funny.
He would be great. The jokes write themselves.
Enhanced interrogation.
Is waterboarding an actual respectable debate topic in America?
What a shit country.
Rubio recovered slightly with a nice answer on foreign policy. Now it's just boring.
Jeb's having a good night as well. Interesting debate as far as the chess match goes. Trump will win N.H. by a landslide.
Is this the first one you watch? They've all been the exact same shit. Bored as fuck now.
I've watched most of them, and I finally understand why Jersey Shore was popular.
I just miss Rand tbf.
That's amazing.
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Made my day.
Just seen Chris Christie donning Rubio, what a guy.
That was quite an effective demolition there.
http://i.imgur.com/pGv2MJr.gifv
Jesus.... it's all so embarrassing. "Obama is trying to change America!".... "We will be the greatest country in the world eva!!11!!!!!"
Grow the fuck up.
Exit Polls are saying Trump / Sanders have smashed it with Kasich taking 2nd in the Republican primary. Could be a miserable couple of weeks for Hils.
They've called it for Trump and Sanders already, despite only 10% of the vote reported. That seems a little strange to me. The big interest is in the rest of the Republican race, early signs suggest that Rubio could be imploding.
Bush in 3rd place. Campaign revival maybe? He still has more endorsements than any of them
Senator Bernie Sanders beat Hillary Clinton among nearly every demographic group in the Democratic New Hampshire primary, according to exit polls.
He carried majorities of both men and women. He won among those with and without college degrees. He won among gun owners and non-gun owners. He beat Mrs. Clinton among previous primary voters and those participating for the first time. And he ran ahead among both moderates and liberals.
Even so, there were a few silver linings for Mrs. Clinton. While Mr. Sanders bested her among all age groups younger than 45, the two candidates polled evenly among voters aged 45 to 64. And Mrs. Clinton won the support of voters 65 and older. And, though Mrs. Clinton lost nearly every income group, she did carry voters in families earning over $200,000 per year.
Ouch
Has he won more convincingly than expected?
FiveThirtyEight had him as >99% on to win, so I'm unclear on whether there's actually been an upset at all.
It's not an upset within the context of the past month or so, in a wider context it's a definite upset. But the more notable thing is the margin of victory and over the past fortnight that was always how it was going to be.
Kasich in second is very interesting. He's by far the most decent Republican. Toss-up for third at the moment and if Rubio goes to fifth, especially with Bush in third, it would be a pretty yuge blow for him.
Kasich skipped parading in Iowa and went balls deep into New Hampshire instead. Seems to have paid off.
I also saw an article a few days ago claiming Bush still had a pretty solid chance. Maybe the writer was unto something.
Kasich just had a really nice speech there. Rubio takes responsibility for finishing fifth(!); that Christie moment at the debate will go down in history as the death of his campaign I think.
What a disgusting weasel he is.
I've been trying to find out the same thing this morning, but no-one I've checked is reporting on it, which is disappointing.
It really is a key question, because to date the situation seems to be that while Sanders has some momentum and may win among young white voters, his national performance won't be as strong as Clinton. If the NH performance amongst the groups he has struggled with is improving then he could be a real contender.
When's sooper toosday? If it ends up looking Clintony and Trumpy after that, she can basically start appointing her White House top team.
I've read a few things about 'Bernie' failing to win over the ethnics. Other than the Black Folks and Catholics being wary of his gay-loving Godlessness, wouldn't he be far better for them than the rest of the stiffs?
'We are not a monolith!'
Also, is there any system of anything in the entire universe more complicated than the allocation of delegates from the results of Republican primaries? I literally have a degree in this stuff, but I can't make head nor tail of it.
Yes but they are stupid. When I was at my mum's during Christmas I told both her and my sister that they will vote Bernie. My mother didn't even know who he is (she only knew Clinton, Trump, Bush and Rubio, who she thought is a democrat) and when my missus mentioned that he is a socialist she immediately chimped out (in her mind socialist = Chavez and Castro.) This is a woman earning minimum wage and that has never had medical insurance in the 10+ years she's been living here.
Patriarchy!
I only do what's best for them.
The African-American community is not a monolith either. Currently, there is a political power struggle between the old churches / activists and the new BLM / Tenahasi Coates crowd. The former derive their power from the Democratic Party's patronage and funding. Bernie, not being a Democrat can't and will never have access to it. They are going for Clinton.
The BLM crowd define the issues they face as simple as white supremacy (not the KKK but just that people normally play with their own kind). For the first time in their lives they have seen their own voices have an impact in places like Missouri while anyone working in the system just gets shut down like Obama or is a leech like Sharpton. We are back to the 60's. Bernie walks in whitesplaining that they don't even understand the problems or causes in their community. It doesn't play well. No clue if they will even take part.
http://www.npr.org/2016/02/10/466252...ntent=20160210
The Clinton campaign was trying to stop the hemorrhage of female voters — especially young women — from its camp in the closing days. Campaigning with Clinton on Saturday, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright thundered, "There's a special place in hell for women who don't help each other!" — a phrase she's used before, but one that was specifically targeted at younger female voters who were wooed by Sanders. Feminist leader Gloria Steinem also stirred controversy when she suggested last week that younger women were supporting Sanders just so they could meet boys.
It turns out the Clinton campaign's fears were right. According to exit polls, women made up 55 percent of the New Hampshire electorate — and they favored Sanders by 11 points.
Women voters always hate women candidates.
To that Kings thread!
There we go again. Why is the only option that they hate Hillary? Why can't anyone accept that. maybe, they actually like Bernie's ideas more?
I don't make the rules.
That twat (I think misspelling his name makes you a racist, mate) and his reparations can fuck off.
I blame my phone's auto-correct feature, but I'm hiding behind the fact it is black.
If you read him he does not even want reparations or think they would change anything, so what is the point?
He's said he's voting Bernie if it makes you feel better. Here's an interesting piece on the Clintons history with Black voters.
http://www.thenation.com/article/hil...peoples-votes/
edit: Toby, DemocracyNow has a good interview with him on this today. I don't agree with him but I think he gets his point across.
Phonics, are you talking about Coates? Was not aware that he had declared. I like that he brings up issues and he writes well but he is so pessimistic that you can't go anywhere.
And don't get me wrong - the Clinton's are great for the old black power structure and terrible for the people.
I read he is. Doesn't make me feel any better but I was already feeling pretty good. Also, I exaggerate when I call him a twat, but I do disagree with his overall stance.
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/2/1..._is_voting_for
Ah thanks. Had not seen that.
And I really could not agree more with the content of it. Reparations for things like redlining where you have specific people injured and specific injuring parties should really be a no-brainer.
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