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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Oh yeah you're right. Actually ineos coming in with a focus on the football side rather than commercial and investing £300m is a net negative for all involved.
    Yeah with 300 million you could get *checks notes* 2 Antonys and a year of Bruno.


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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Unless you're talking about his ability to install undetectable steroid regimes I'd ask why you think the guy who's guided a team who finished 4th,17th,11th,4th,3rd prior to them taking over and converted that into a finish of 9th,5th,9th will be any better. They haven't sold a single player for over 10 million euros in their entire time owning the club so I'm not sure you can rely on Jim's eye for the transfer market.
    They are currently second in the league, no?

    I won't pretend to follow Nice religiously, but by all accounts it took Ineos a while to get their head around football but their fans are very pleased with them nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Yeah with 300 million you could get *checks notes* 2 Antonys and a year of Bruno.

    We wouldn't have signed Antony for £85m with competent people in charge of the footballing side. That's the whole point.

    They plan to put actual FOOTBALL PEOPLE (TM) in the positions previously occupied by the likes of Woodward and Arnold.

    United on the footballing side is a MESS. The whole infrastructure is a disaster, from the people to the stadium to the training facilities. It has been completely neglected by the Glazers. It will take years to get them back to being a competitive club and (given the likes of City, PSG and Newcastle) it may never happen, but they have a much better chance with Ineos having control over the footballing side than the fucking Glazers.

    Non-United fans just see us spaffing loads in the transfer market and can't understand why we complain, but the Glazers have instilled incompetence and dereliction throughout the entire club. They are appalling owners whose leveraged buyout should never have been allowed in the first place.

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    I believe it. You're talking to an Arsenal fan. Our Director of Football resigned out of the blue and no-one in the media can say why without getting sued. I know farce. I'm just not sure that different = good.

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    Except there are clear signs of Ratcliffe at least trying to do better. Like employing people with football experience into football roles. Like bunging £300m at making a start on fixing the stadium, training facilities, etc. It's no guarantee of success, but there's no way it'll be as bad as the Glazers.

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    I don't even need to do a quick check of things United have won between 2004 and now to know I'd win the 'it can't be as bad as the glazers' bet.

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    You're comparing us to Arsenal there? The difference is United are a commercial behemoth which makes insane amounts of money. The Glazers have taken more than £1bn out of the club and we've still managed to spend the amount we have. Throwing endless money at a problem is (clearly) not a guaranteed recipe for success, but it certainly helps. Arsenal have not had close to the same spending power across the same period.

    You'd have to be actively and deliberately sabotaging the club to do worse than the Glazers.

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    United are on the old Liverpool cycle now and this is just another iteration.

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    We'll see. I'm happy to be quietly optimistic at Ratcliffe and ineos and a change from the status quo. The huge commercial advantage we had when the glazers took over is gone now so we'll need to be smarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    The huge commercial advantage we had when the glazers took over is gone now so we'll need to be smarter.
    Another thing pissed away by the Glazers. Who'd have thought being satisfied with mediocrity on the pitch at a football club would lead to them being less commercially successful?

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    That equaliser is all due to Almiron being toilet.

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    MGW is such an elite fucking talent, the touches, the weight of pass, the vision, he needs to be playing CL.

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    Fucking hell. Howe's gone.

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    Alex Scott, you filthy sexual being.

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    Not sure how any of the Newcastle situation is Howe's fault, squad + injuries = where they are or worse. He'd be back in work within weeks if they sacked him.

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    Jim, I don't want to hear your head coming up from Bill Foley's crotch for so much as a breath until 2024.

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    Is he gone or not?

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    Another example of Nunez not having to think leading to good things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Not sure how any of the Newcastle situation is Howe's fault, squad + injuries = where they are or worse. He'd be back in work within weeks if they sacked him.
    I think the way we play is causing a couple of problems. When the squad's knackered, it's just going to make them even more knackered.

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    Shame that Salah one that hit the bar didn't go in, so VAR could have ruled it out for brushing his elbow.

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    That's a farcical decision. Keeper completely wrong footed, but no room for nuance in the land of the all seeing eye.

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    Feels like a night where we'll create about 50 chances and draw 1-1.

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    Salah being pushed into an offside position is pretty funny, is there even anything in the rules to account for that?

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    Is Quansah good or is he just better than the recent shite that were in the pecking order behind Matip and Konate?
    I'm a twit

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    Liverpool have been well boring every time I've watched them this season

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    This guy's finishing, man.

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    For the love of god more Jota, less Diaz.

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    Onana

    He's absolute toilet.

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    This is turning into racial bullying

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    Seeing as Dan the man Ashworth is still at the other United is there not a risk Potter might end up there rather than taking over this ongoing car crash?

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    Ipswich do indeed look turd again. Shocking at the back.

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    Oh boy, we're in for some proper toxic scenes here

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    Ten Hag has to be gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Ten Hag has to be gone.
    Naaa he stays for entertainment purposes.

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    Villa pipping Arsenal to the title is the best possible although also least likely outcome for this season. Even moreso if they play each other towards the end, even moreso if such a game were at Arsenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Villa pipping Arsenal to the title is the best possible although also least likely outcome for this season. Even moreso if they play each other towards the end, even moreso if such a game were at Arsenal.
    13th April (game 33) at Arsenal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Ten Hag has to be gone.
    Hard to argue with that and there are tell tale signs that he's lost the dressing room.

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    He’s not been in the betting thread either recently stalking Taz, the massive weapon

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    Hopefully they can hold out long enough to appoint waistcoat in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    He’s not been in the betting thread either recently stalking Taz, the massive weapon
    Too busy sacking pensioners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Villa pipping Arsenal to the title is the best possible although also least likely outcome for this season. Even moreso if they play each other towards the end, even moreso if such a game were at Arsenal.
    As if Liverpool aren't winning it. Surely that's your best outcome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Hard to argue with that and there are tell tale signs that he's lost the dressing room.

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    No idea what this is referencing. Some sort of e-victory presumably?

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    That was a lovely goal though.

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    Why do none of our attackers know the offside rule?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    No idea what this is referencing. Some sort of e-victory presumably?
    Not referencing an e-victory, I don't think there's one to be had. I knew you'd be reading, so thought I'd say hi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    As if Liverpool aren't winning it. Surely that's your best outcome?
    I was thinking more in terms of the general narrative. Whilst you are probably right I'm struggling to sustain much interest in this iteration of football. 6 draws already looking concerning for Liverpool.

    Every goal being accompanied by 5 minutes of confused shrugging whilst the vid bods desperately scramble around to find a reason to rule it out has gone beyond boring.

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    Villa have been absolutely horrendous this half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post

    Every goal being accompanied by 5 minutes of confused shrugging whilst the vid bods desperately scramble around to find a reason to rule it out has gone beyond boring.
    It desperately needs someone to take it by the scruff of the neck and put entertainment at the forefront of how it should work going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I was thinking more in terms of the general narrative. Whilst you are probably right I'm struggling to sustain much interest in this iteration of football. 6 draws already looking concerning for Liverpool.

    Every goal being accompanied by 5 minutes of confused shrugging whilst the vid bods desperately scramble around to find a reason to rule it out has gone beyond boring.
    Yeah it is gone a load of bollocks really in fairness. Up there with how defensive pass interference has me at about the end of the NFL too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    It desperately needs someone to take it by the scruff of the neck and put entertainment at the forefront of how it should work going forward.
    Entertainment requires that armpit offsides on the hallway line aren't a reason for given goals to be ruled out.

    Much like Salah hitting the bar earlier. I'm sure VAR would have chalked that one off for it having touched his elbow in a completely inconsequential way. There is no way to make a super strict pursuit of objective truth in a subjective world entertaining.

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