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  • It's coming home!

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  • Round of 16

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    Phil Foden is basically Messi.
    He's so good. Is he doomed to a lifetime of being underappreciated because he doesn't play for one of the media-friendly red teams?

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    Kiko posted 'This Mbappe has potential' at HT and deleted it for fear of being controversial. Pass it on.

    Neymar losing his head is still so damn satisfying to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    He's so good. Is he doomed to a lifetime of being underappreciated because he doesn't play for one of the media-friendly red teams?
    The opposite. He's an English player who 'Pep' rates, and he's liable to be the only homegrown player worth a wank at City for the foreseeable future and therefore proof of all the Great Things the slave state is doing in Manchester ('on and off the pitch[!]'), like when Jack Wilshere was briefly the poster boy for everything Arsene Wenger had brought to the game.

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    Sorry, Jack 'Jack' Wilshere.

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    Does Phil like a cheeky smoke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    The opposite. He's an English player who 'Pep' rates, and he's liable to be the only homegrown player worth a wank at City for the foreseeable future and therefore proof of all the Great Things the slave state is doing in Manchester ('on and off the pitch[!]'), like when Jack Wilshere was briefly the poster boy for everything Arsene Wenger had brought to the game.
    If he played for United he would already be England captain and have national Gazza status; as it is he feels very under the radar.

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    If he played for United he would be crap.

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    Next England captain from United is still going to be FEC, Foden can do one.

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    The Luke Shaw redemption NARRATIVE gets him it in a friendly, and then two goals come down his side in a 3-1 defeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    He's so good. Is he doomed to a lifetime of being underappreciated because he doesn't play for one of the media-friendly red teams?
    Rather because he has possibly the least likeable face of all time.

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    That is true, if he wasn't good at football he would be thieving all the nice cars in Wilmslow.

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    He one of the lads. He still stands on street corners in shorts and a tennents super with a hand full of sovereign rings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Kiko posted 'This Mbappe has potential' at HT and deleted it for fear of being controversial. Pass it on.

    Neymar losing his head is still so damn satisfying to watch.
    I'm only joking Tazmania.

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    For all the talk of the death of football surrounding the Super League, the actual death of football is the near total domination of the oil clubs which is now manifesting itself in the european cup (hitherto the final frontier for said domination). Over the last 10 seasons City, PSG and Chelsea have basically accounted for something like 60% of all domestic competitions won, and it's only the national cups that pull that average down from nearer 80%.

    7(8) Premier League titles
    7 League Cups
    3 FA Cups (although also 4 of the 5 previous to the 10 year cut off)
    7 (8) Ligue 1 titles
    5 Coupes de France

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    Yeah the super clubs have already largely killed the competitive edge.
    City / Liverpool / Chelsea in England
    PSG in France
    Bayern in Germany
    Juve in Italy
    Madrid/ Barcelona in Spain.

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    Having not paid that much attention to Foden this season - someone tell me what his main strenghts actually are? I see him as your average english "10" - good at linking play, decent technique, excellent at making runs into the box and a mean shot. But perhaps not super rapid or one of those Neymar-style dribblers, and while the passing is good it's not De Bruyne either.

    aul Scholes or Frank Lampard reimagined, basically.

    Is that image wrong?

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    He's not a Scholes. I can't think England has had a player of his type in the last 25 years. The best comp I can think of at the moment is Pavel Nedved.

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    A small group of financially dominant sides is manageable as long as it's otherwise a level playing field during the game and competition. A couple of them will be hitting the rocks soon too

    Foden is actually becoming the Iniesta regen. With a better shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    He's not a Scholes. I can't think England has had a player of his type in the last 25 years. The best comp I can think of at the moment is Pavel Nedved.

    Alright fair enough. I looked at some videos now. Kaka also seems like a fair comparison to me.
    Saw him being compared to Gazza, but that seems true for every english talent basically.

    But then he's more of a central midfield player right? I have the impression Pep keeps playing him as a winger.

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    The best players are always more 'central' when they come through the age groups, I've no idea what his actual position is (probably an anachronism in itself).

    I've been quite surprised at how good he is at dribbling/going past people in confined spaces.

    Gonna be great when England get trolled out of the Euros with Rice, Dier and Lingard in front of 5 defenders with the likes of Foden and Grealish on the bench/not in the squad.

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    Granada staging a late sinking of the good ship Koeman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Nothing since Villa. Back to back binmen with him and Sherwood. What a time to be alive.
    A light needs shining on how shit Sherwood really was. The year we went down (with about 17 points) we actually had a fucking excellent window.

    Gueye - Champions League semi last night despite GBH
    Veretout - Europa League semi tonight
    Amavi - Europa League final (winner?) a couple of years back
    Traore - Inconsistent don
    J Ayew - Decent centre forward

    Instead he threw his toys out the pram, ostracised the lot of them as he didn't get Andros Townsend, played Kieran Richardson, Gabby Agbonlahor and a load of shit in centre midfield, created a toxic split dressing room and blew the club to pieces. Proper, proper shit cunt.

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    Man Utd aren’t going to bottle another semi final, are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    The Luke Shaw redemption NARRATIVE gets him it in a friendly, and then two goals come down his side in a 3-1 defeat.

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    The standard of football in this Utd game

    It's literally like your local powerleague.

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    I do rate Arteta but the continued existence of Ceballos does give me doubts. He looks like a League One player.

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    I'd sack Ole if he doesn't win the tournament.

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    Cavani is amazing. Give him whatever he wants for another season.

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    I think the foul system is fundamentally broken at this point.

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    Emery

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I do rate Arteta but the continued existence of Ceballos does give me doubts. He looks like a League One player.
    Serious question: what has Arteta done this season that has made you rate him? With the Europa League now up in flames and a bottom half finish as likely as a top half finish (in a poor league) you have to question him surely.

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    I'm not even sure he even really qualifies for binman status given that he only had a few shitty years at Arsenal, and that just leaves you with some no mark novice manager.

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    Lovely to see what a shambles of a hairline that chancer has got these days.

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    He's a student of Pep.

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    I’ve done a Taz.

    Smalling repaying Man Utd by standing two yards deeper than everyone else

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    That's not a pen for me.

    Cavani should take it for the hattrick though.

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    How is that a penalty when the ball is five minutes past him?

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    All these goal contributions.

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    Stat-padding his way to the Ballon d'Or.

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    Very satisfactory second half so far. Roma sure also not very good.

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    Arsenal making a balls of Rule Britannia.

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    Mace is ace.

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    Cavani.

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    It’s going to be another all English final in both competitions. What a league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    It’s going to be another all English final in both competitions. What a league.
    What a bore.

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    There's absolutely no chance Arteta's Arsenal turn it around.

    I still don't believe that City will make it to the Champions League final.

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    Just watched the Utd highlights. Shaw is actually so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJay View Post
    Serious question: what has Arteta done this season that has made you rate him? With the Europa League now up in flames and a bottom half finish as likely as a top half finish (in a poor league) you have to question him surely.
    Tonight was the first time that I've seen us been actually passed through in several years. For a good few years the way to beat Arsenal was simply to just pass the ball forwards and you would get a decent attack in the final third. That doesn't happen anymore. We no longer get completely bypassed in midfield.

    However, whatever structure fixes that seems to completely inhibit the team in possession and attacking. Meaning we have to score the few chances we do create because the goals we concede now are mostly creations of our own making (we lost 3 games in a row by 1 goal because a player gave the ball to the opposition for a free goal).

    Pretty much this same team drew 15 games last season. Most of the players really aren't very good. Mohamed Elneny, binned off 3 years ago to Turkey, was the inform midfielder for a time. And those that are good don't fit together whatsoever.

    I back him because there's a sense of something there and he's a decent bloke.

    I'm in two minds because I always backed the Wenger way of just destroying the dross and getting battered by the top whereas Arteta is the reverse@

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    They definitely don't have the x-factor in the squad that can bail them out. And I don't think Arteta's the kind of manager who can bring those kinds of players in.

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    There’s no such thing as X-factor. It’s paying them. Our wage bill is 100 million less than United, Liverpool and City.

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