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    Trent's fine where he is now. He's just a casualty of the injury crisis and I'm not talking about the defensive one, though that hasn't helped either.

    If you imagine Liverpools strongest XI, you have Henderson in there, who is his biggest miss. The usual style is to keep both full backs high up the pitch, with Gini and Henderson tucking into the channels between the CB and advancing full back. Fabinho then usually sweeps up the middle. This is where Liverpool used to dominate teams into submission. The ball would almost always be won back on the press and even if you did get through all that, there was the small matter of Alisson and Van Dijk to still navigate.
    It would be standard to not only see Liverpool with near 70% of the ball most games, but very few chances would be given up with that other 30%.

    Now what is happening is that he's being left to kind of do it all himself. The midfielder on his side has tended to be Thiago who can't tackle and doesn't provide anything near the help Henderson would. This could be seen as a criticism of Klopp that he hasn't another guy who can play this role. Milner/Jones could be seen as the most similar but both tend to be the left side of the team when they play.

    It also hasn't helped that while Aerially dominant, Nat Phillips doesn't get about the pitch greatly well.

    I think you'll see Liverpool invest heavily in the summer, with or without a top 4 finish(I don't think we get it). Looks like Konate from Liepzig will be coming in, but a few new faces in the midfield/forwards department are surely a lock.

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    What's happened to Keita? Is he injured or what?

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    Keita has a cycle he goes through.

    Gets fit > Breaks into the first team > Game 1 and 2 is meh > Game 4/5 he starts to play well > Gets injured. Repeat.

    Current state is the 2nd stage. Klopp put him for his return game against Madrid and he was that bad he was hooked in the first half.

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    Too busy thinking about his rape victims.
    I'm a twit

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    Alberto Aquilani syndrome.

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    I’m pretty sure VAR just ruled that West Brom goal out wrongly by measuring their stupid lines against the wrong player

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    Everton game should be good. Just the 7 centre halves on the pitch and 9 defenders

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    Yep, weirdly defensive lineup from them.

    Still the Gross/Moder - wing backs but not wing backs and nobody behind them - system for us.

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    Sane is horseshit now.

    Also, in the last 25 minutes or so every Bayern player looked scared to shoot, they were constantly looking for knockdowns to other players.

    Flick taking off Chupo Mouting who had scored earlier for Javi fucking Martinez is criminal too.

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    That Porto goal was as good as Rooney’s shin

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    Glorious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Sane is horseshit now.
    He was their best player.

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    That was the worst Quarter final performance I've ever seen, the cunt benched Taremi for over an hour too. Fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    He was their best player.
    Hernandez was.

    Sane was probably their next best player although he made a lot of mistakes. Mainly that chance near the end of the game in which he passed it right to Navas instead of finding someone else with a pass/chip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Flick taking off Chupo Mouting who had scored earlier for Javi fucking Martinez is criminal too.
    Very odd substitution. You’d pick him to score out of anyone.

    I think they left it too late to really go for it. Then again... Mbappe on the break.

    Gnabry available and it would’ve been theirs I think. Lewandowski and it’s probably 7-3.

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    I’m not sure how PSG contrived not to score in that game. They had an entire half free for the fastest striker in the world to run into. Although there was one grossly incompetent offside call against Mbappe in the first half. What happened to letting the play run?

    Bayern’s problem is they have little creativity. It’s all angled passes and crosses. They didn’t really create a lot of decent chances.

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    What?

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    I came in to post that. I’ve watched it about 50 times and still don’t understand it.

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    But she's winning the race to the ball

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    What's the consternation here? The decision by the ref or the decision by the player?

    Defender's been completely sold out by her 'keeper (women's football eh?) not being in the right place to sweep that up. She could probably have 'eased up' in front of the attacker in a less overtly stupid way, mind, as opposed to putting an NFL block in.

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    Following our centerback getting an 8 month ban a few weeks back, last night out goalkeeper headbutted the assistant ref (after he gave a soft 96th min free kick from which the oppo scored). Another loooong ban incoming.

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    Christ, the highlights of that women's match are horrific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    What's the consternation here? The decision by the ref or the decision by the player?

    Defender's been completely sold out by her 'keeper (women's football eh?) not being in the right place to sweep that up. She could probably have 'eased up' in front of the attacker in a less overtly stupid way, mind, as opposed to putting an NFL block in.
    The player. She just needs to take the ball, she's well ahead of the other one and has a number of options which isn't running into the striker. Option 1, take it, turn play it out. Option 2, pass back to the keeper (the distance is there). Option 3, clear out of play if she's not confident to take it.

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    The more I watched it I wondered if there was some kind of optical illusion going on and the NI player was actually going to get to the ball first, but it doesn't look that way from the behind-the-goal angle. I think it's just a misjudgement of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    What's the consternation here? The decision by the ref or the decision by the player?

    Defender's been completely sold out by her 'keeper (women's football eh?) not being in the right place to sweep that up. She could probably have 'eased up' in front of the attacker in a less overtly stupid way, mind, as opposed to putting an NFL block in.
    She could have easily just calmly knocked it back to the keeper (which is why she doesn't come out, I'd assume)

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    I've just learned that Fulham have a yoof called "Delano Splatt", which I find rather pleasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    She could have easily just calmly knocked it back to the keeper (which is why she doesn't come out, I'd assume)
    Yeah, I dunno, she does sort of look like she's running in treacle.

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    Women and spatial awareness amirite?

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    Jude Bellingham actually has a goal and not a yellow card this time.

    City on the ropes.

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    That Casemiro tackle

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    Feels like Barcelona except they can't finish today.

    I'd love City to go out here too.

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    Jota for Firmino and Liverpool can tie this up.

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    Aye, Firmino has been dross.

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    Should have finished one of those chances but we’re still in the game. Hopefully get a goal early in the second half.

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    We're raping them as hard as one expected really, imagine 1 goal will really make them shit themselves, hopefullyget it before we have to sacrific the balance and take Milly and Gini off.

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    Never a penalty. Mourinho was right.

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    UEFA needs more money.

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    Typical Liverpool this. So wasteful up front.

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    Fuck City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    Typical Liverpool this. So wasteful up front.

    138 goals from 130 xG over the last couple of seasons. Computer says no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    138 goals from 130 xG over the last couple of seasons. Computer says no.
    This season?

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    Pretty disappointed in the lack of a real strategy in this half. Just lobbing it in from deep to nobody in particular.

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    Shaqiri & OLC from the bench.

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    What a fraud Thiago is btw. Even when games are made for him he can't pick out a pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    What a fraud Thiago is btw. Even when games are made for him he can't pick out a pass.
    I thought he did well. :shrug:

    Not sure how that game was made for him to pick passes - Real had a 9 man low block for the last 15 minutes.

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    Sickening. Left to support Real Madrid as the only stomacheable winner

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    Abysmal subs by Klopp at the end there.

    Ultimately just needed to score one of the first half chances.

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    We. Are. Fucking Shit. Yeah, we are fucking shit.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    We're raping them as hard as one expected really, imagine 1 goal will really make them shit themselves, hopefullyget it before we have to sacrific the balance and take Milly and Gini off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonsky View Post
    Abysmal subs by Klopp at the end there.

    Ultimately just needed to score one of the first half chances.
    What else was there? Fresh legs and something different was the order of the day. Mané can do nothing right at the minute, and Firmino is a wasteman, so we weren’t any worse off with the replacements.

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