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Thread: Do we live in a golden age of television?

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    Mrs Maisel is wonderful. Really top quality television.

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    Uncle is really surprisingly good.

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    I don't know about this Frasier revival with only Frasier in it. Especially if it goes down the Frasier in 2021 fish-out-of-water routine like a load of shit middle aged comedy. Frasier says 'niggardly' on the radio. Frasier accidentally dates a tranny.

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    Reviving a show that had already stumbled through at least a couple of ropey series before it finished the first time? Can't see what could go wrong.

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    I can't envisage a world where it's going to be anything but a massive disappointment.

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    On the subject of inevitable massive disappointments, I see someone is making a Wheel of Time series. The odds of that doing it justice are as slim as the novels were not.

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    It shouldn't be much harder to do right than Game of Thrones was, and it turns out those guys were just some fucking idiots with decent source material.

    Plus Wheel of Time is actually finished.

    They might need to tweak the writing of the women a bit though.

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    I really need to finish those books.

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    The wife put Saturday Night Takeaway on whilst I was out of the room, I was about to turn it off on my return but instead witnessed some absolute car crash TV where Gordon Ramsay had to guess foods people were saying by lip reading. In two minutes he said 'pissed', coated off some woman for having gap teeth and told the asian bloke to speak English

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    That's Can't Get You Out of My Head finished. I almost wish I hadn't been tipped off about a mate's appearance in that. Also, they cut the Kursk town hall footage before the wifey got sedated. Poor form, BBC. Still, I can handle one of these every couple of years.

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    Wandavision finalé was a bit meh.

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    Yeah I'd go with that. I was expecting a lot more from it tbh.

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    I've only given it an episode and a half to be fair but I've struggled to get into Wandavision so far.
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    I thought I’d give it a shot but I was told that I’d have to watch four 3 hour long Marvel movies to understand what’s going on. Fuck that.

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    I think as a whole it was a good series with an interesting premise and I appreciated the ideas behind it. There was a lot shoehorned in a bit clunkily too though:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    I think as a whole it was a good series with an interesting premise and I appreciated the ideas behind it. There was a lot shoehorned in a bit clunkily too though:

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    I watched that Biggie documentary on Netflix. I liked that it was like 95% about his actual life, and not yet another conspiracy theory documentary about how Puffy got Tupac shot and Suge got Biggie shot. Nothing new, really, but I'll always grin like an idiot at that clip where he buries Supreme in a rap battle in the street.
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    WandaVision:
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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I thought I’d give it a shot but I was told that I’d have to watch four 3 hour long Marvel movies to understand what’s going on. Fuck that.
    I have seen all the films and I'd disagree. But I'm also not sure whether WandaVision is indicative of the MCU. It's only 30-odd minute episodes. I'd say try two or three and you'll know if you care or not.

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    I walked into Wandavision with zero movies behind me and found it easy to follow.

    I watch one of those channels that do the breakdowns if I need a catch up.

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    The Circle is back tonight.

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    Has anyone else bothered with The Terror? About as AMC as a TV show could get. Cracking cast, but it's a proper slog. I'm hoping for a big pay off come series end.

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    It's excellent.

    Haven't seen the second season though.

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    Second season wasn't really in the same league, but I did still enjoy it. First season is top TV though.

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    Jared Harris is one hell of an actor.

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    This Taskmaster lineup is shite.

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    Flavourless.

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    Does Wandavision get better after the first couple of episodes? The first two have been total bollocks

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    It does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Does Wandavision get better after the first couple of episodes? The first two have been total bollocks
    If you don't like episodes 3/4 you can give up. First two are really quite different but three is where it starts to change a bit.

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    That Football's Darkest Secrets is something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    The Circle is back tonight.
    Not sure what I think of this series so far, feels like they are throwing more spanners in the works early doors. Also think contestants are more savvy this time round with the sob story angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Not sure what I think of this series so far, feels like they are throwing more spanners in the works early doors. Also think contestants are more savvy this time round with the sob story angles.
    Yeah it's been pretty poor so far. Most of the contestants are basically the same young Youtuber type person and all of the catfishers are dire.

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    I've revisited This Country and S3, E6 is absolute magic.

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    Anyone watch Line of Duty on Monday? Same old shit, but worth a watch.

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    Have started Succession recently (about 4 and a half eps in, I need two bites at some of them). Really is very good, without having a single likeable character in it. A mark of Jesse Armstrong's stuff I think, The Thick of It and Peep Show were the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    Yeah it's been pretty poor so far. Most of the contestants are basically the same young Youtuber type person and all of the catfishers are dire.
    'Kate' was the best catfish of course, though Freddie was comedy even though his catfishing was lazy, just the contrast between his persona and his actual personality was amusing.

    Series 2 had a good one in James, he played it well and really went for the jugular with a profile no-one thought would have been faked. Paddy winning it was a farce I think, especially irritating as he did the now standard 'I'm disabled but I will hide it... for 12 hours' tactic.

    Very unlikeable bunch this year and everyone has a tale of woe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    Anyone watch Line of Duty on Monday? Same old shit, but worth a watch.
    It was a solid opener though not as explosive as previous openers which threw me a little, kept waiting for the other shoe to drop (thought there was a bomb in the flat after the delayed arrival, the way that part was filmed was odd).

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    Please explain the concept of The Circle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Have started Succession recently (about 4 and a half eps in, I need two bites at some of them). Really is very good, without having a single likeable character in it. A mark of Jesse Armstrong's stuff I think, The Thick of It and Peep Show were the same.
    Characters become more relatable/likeable the further you dive into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Please explain the concept of The Circle.
    8 players are housed in a block of flats isolated from the world with only a basic social media platform called 'The Circle' to communicate with via text chat. When players enter the game they create a profile, they don't have to be themselves. They regularly rate each other anonymously, the top 2 players in the ratings become influencers and decide who to block from the game. The winner scoops Ł100,000.

    It has definite 'werewolf'/'mafia' elements with regards to catfish gameplay. Series One was the best in my opinion, available on All 4.

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    I've recently rediscovered my love for binging and have hammered the following:

    Murder at the Mormons - After a slow start this turned into a fascinating documentary, would recommend.
    White House Farm - Very good true crime drama with an outstanding performance from Mark Addy.
    Wild Wild Country - Just a brilliant documentary, I have no idea how I wasn't previously aware that any of this had happened. Utterly batshit.
    Unbelievable - A little bit annoying (from a male privilege perspective perhaps) but otherwise a solid drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Characters become more relatable/likeable the further you dive into it.
    Thus far I'm probably closest to liking Kendall, purely because he is probably in the most sympathetic plight of them all, but christ they all make it difficult. McFadyen's character is a fucking cunt. Shiv is awful too.

    I get so many vibes of my real life boss from Logan Roy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    'Kate' was the best catfish of course, though Freddie was comedy even though his catfishing was lazy, just the contrast between his persona and his actual personality was amusing.

    Series 2 had a good one in James, he played it well and really went for the jugular with a profile no-one thought would have been faked. Paddy winning it was a farce I think, especially irritating as he did the now standard 'I'm disabled but I will hide it... for 12 hours' tactic.

    Very unlikeable bunch this year and everyone has a tale of woe.

    I quite enjoyed the random chaos of Paddy winning last year, he went from absolutely no hope to basically winning by accident because of the factions that were formed in the last couple of episodes.

    I think everyone has just watched last year, where the success stories were friendly oddball old person, sympathetic woman, and sob stories, and gone for one of them, but are playing them abysmally. Shout out to Penny for being the worst ever contestant on a reality TV show.

    I'm hoping they have a few more players to chuck in this season, because Gemma, Dot and Syed are already dead in the water, and the rest are mostly terrible TV.
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    Kiko is right in that you do get more invested in the characters as it goes along. Kendall is absolutely the "good guy" of the piece, if you could call him that. I'm not sure if he has or not but Jeremy Strong should be winning all of the awards he is eligible for for his portrayal of him.

    They're all fucking awful on some level though. I suppose that is sort of the point. They're all fucked up and twisted by wealth and/or power. I guess it's a bit like The Sopranos in that they're all bad people but it doesn't stop you forming attachments to them. Well, apart from Cousin Greg. He's not a bad person.

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    I've started watching House recently, I've never seen any of it before. I quite like it. It's incredibly formulaic (loads of medical science-babble, they get the diagnosis wrong a few times until House solves it in the last five minutes) but I just wanted an "easy" watch and it is sort of infinitely watchable. I'm only closing in on the end of season one though, I can't guarantee I will still feel that way a hundred episodes down the line!

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    It's clearly lupus.

    I'd like to go back to it at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Kiko is right in that you do get more invested in the characters as it goes along. Kendall is absolutely the "good guy" of the piece, if you could call him that. I'm not sure if he has or not but Jeremy Strong should be winning all of the awards he is eligible for for his portrayal of him.

    They're all fucking awful on some level though. I suppose that is sort of the point. They're all fucked up and twisted by wealth and/or power. I guess it's a bit like The Sopranos in that they're all bad people but it doesn't stop you forming attachments to them. Well, apart from Cousin Greg. He's not a bad person.
    Cousin Greg may not be 'bad' but he acts in literally the opposite way to how I would act in every conceivable situation, so for that reason I find him massively irritating. So far. It's early-ish days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    It's clearly lupus.

    I'd like to go back to it at some point.


    My only real complaint so far as they shoe-horn things in out of the blue to try and make it more than just "House solves cases" week after week. For example, the stereotypical story arc with an evil new boss who doesn't understand House's methods just got thrown in out of nowhere for a few episodes.

    And now one of his co-workers/underlings seems to have developed a totally out of character crush on him that they're intent on pushing to the forefront.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Cousin Greg may not be 'bad' but he acts in literally the opposite way to how I would act in every conceivable situation, so for that reason I find him massively irritating. So far. It's early-ish days.
    Yeah, it's weird with Greg isn't it. Because it's almost like they were going for a "what if you put an every-man type into this family situation, how would he fare?" thing, but it's really more "what if you put an absolute idiot into this situation" that we end up with. They go a bit too far with him in the opposite direction at times.

    I will say this, it becomes much less of a comedy as it goes on. I seem to remember there being quite a noticeable shift mid-way through the first season. At first I almost thought of it as a flat-out comedy-drama but it moves away from that. It definitely retains elements of it, but grows a lot a darker and more serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    It was a solid opener though not as explosive as previous openers which threw me a little, kept waiting for the other shoe to drop (thought there was a bomb in the flat after the delayed arrival, the way that part was filmed was odd).
    Yes, the flat scene did suggest something like that was going to happen.

    I find that I'm just trying to guess who's the dodgy cop in each episode rather than following the storyline. I also think they've built up this 'H' thing so much that it could be a bit of a let down once finally revealed. Hope not.

    The potential for some lesbo is always good, however.

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