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  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

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  • 2 people's Greens

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    "Dead patients. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    "Dead patients. "
    Nope. The last one proved it's safe because the consultants and SAS doctors cover. It's just enormously expensive and disruptive.

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    If it's that safe then why don't we just lay a load of doctors off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    If it's that safe then why don't we just lay a load of doctors off?
    Because paying consultants locum rates to cover and cancel all their elective work to do so is not sustainable.

    As I said. Safe, but hugely expensive and disruptive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Because paying consultants locum rates to cover and cancel all their elective work to do so is not sustainable.

    As I said. Safe, but hugely expensive and disruptive.
    Is it unsustainable because cancelled appointments lead to deaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Is it unsustainable because cancelled appointments lead to deaths?
    The evidence from previous strikes showed they did not lead to an increased death rate in the subsequent period. So no, the evidence is they don't.

    It's unsustainable primarily because of cost.

    You can quibble over the numbers, but we have taken a huge real terms pay cut over the last few years. You would not accept it, why should we?

    The exodus of doctors to Australia/NZ/Canada etc. where pay and conditions are hugely better will - on the other hand - definitely lead to deaths.

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    I know, I'm on the wind up. There are doctors being paid less than me and that's mental to be honest.

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    I want to say our health professionals earn more than they do. Fancy writing up some reports and making some phone calls for £35k, randrew?

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    If we tried to copy what 'Australia/NZ/Canada etc.' do with their health spending doctors would be out bealing about privatisation. Quite happy with voluntary contributions when they're going in their back pockets though the jumped-up search engine cunts.

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    I don't really know anything about it, but banning laughing gas seems an odd direction to be taking 'drugs policy'.

    Is this some sort of bid to re-assert themselves as the party of law and order by the conservatives?

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    It’s just to be seen to be doing something because it’s still somehow a vote winner. I’ve never understood the archaic attitude to drugs that this country still has. Even some Republican states in the U.S. have legalised cannabis now.

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    Starmer was going on the other day about the smell of cannabis wafting in family's windows in neighbourhoods and ruining people's lives.

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    Wasn't he also praising Thatcher in a classic tanks on lawn manoeuvre the other day?

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    Govt has made an offer to teaching unions. They have to meet about it and then present to members tomorrow at 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Starmer was going on the other day about the smell of cannabis wafting in family's windows in neighbourhoods and ruining people's lives.
    This ought to be the main grounds for banning it. If somebody invents an odourless version then whatever, but until then hang the users.

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    In that case I want Egg Mayo Sandwiches and Pickled Onion Monster Munch made illegal immediately.

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    Firing squad for anyone who microwaves fish at work.

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    Good call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Firing squad for anyone who microwaves fish at work.
    All jokes aside I would vote for any Party that had this policy.

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    A few doctors have started releasing evidence of the appalling ways we get treated by management/admin staff on Reddit/Twitter.

    It's mainly just people who've already escaped to other countries at the moment who can't be bullied with threats about training places or vexatious GMC referrals, but fuck I hope it opens the floodgates.

    Burn the vicious, incompetent bastards down

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    Yousaf is the new SNP leader. He probably won't torpedo the party overnight like Forbes would have but he seems like a whole load of nothing so a fade into obscurity beckons. Labour and Tories are licking their lips no doubt.

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    Forbes would have been far better. Guy is an absolute gimp. Tried to sue the nursery my mates bairn is at. Tosser.

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    They're all just lightweights compared to Sturgeon. I'm still a bit mystified as to why she quit, has to be more to it than the gender row.

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    cheeky affair

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Forbes would have been far better. Guy is an absolute gimp. Tried to sue the nursery my mates bairn is at. Tosser.
    He lives near me, typical Tory.

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    Humza or my mate?

    The latter definitely is. Bought the old Stonelee guest house opposite Suzuki garage. Some gaff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    They're all just lightweights compared to Sturgeon. I'm still a bit mystified as to why she quit, has to be more to it than the gender row.
    Probably the financial irregularities and the closeness of her husband to it all.

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    Nicola Sturgeon is a lightweight. The devolved Scottish administration is the worst government in the country, and she got an easy ride off the media because she was a woman and opposed Brexit.

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    Northern Ireland, Shirley? They haven't had a functioning one for about half a decade now.

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    Nobody making things worse. Besides, Northern Ireland is part of the European Union now, so I didn't include it.

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    Scab bastards.

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    4.3% increase for teachers from September, 4% to come from existing budgets, plus £1k. Laughable offer, worse than Scotland and Wales. REJECT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo View Post
    4.3% increase for teachers from September, 4% to come from existing budgets, plus £1k. Laughable offer, worse than Scotland and Wales. REJECT.
    Joke offer. Government are absolute cunts, the lot of them.

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    Lucky the worst government in the UK ( ) aren't dealing with them.

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    I don't think even this set of Tory cunts would have the brass neck to say Corbyn would be offering less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Firing squad for anyone who microwaves fish at work.
    I genuinely used to do this semi regularly at Barclays, and thought my colleagues were overreacting. I was genuinely very embarrassed when I realised it was a #thing. guess I just love fish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I don't think even this set of Tory cunts would have the brass neck to say Corbyn would be offering less.
    This is Jeremy Corbyn's world and we're just living in it, that's why you have to vote Tory and stop his banana republic ways once and for all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor_balis View Post
    I genuinely used to do this semi regularly at Barclays, and thought my colleagues were overreacting. I was genuinely very embarrassed when I realised it was a #thing. guess I just love fish
    Oh God no. That smell spreads far and wide. If you've dated a woman with no hygiene or an infection in her nether regions, you're suddenly reminded of that.

    Fish is good but microwave fish is another level of nasal intrusion.

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    Ah, you've missed some of Igor's stories while you've been away, I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I don't think even this set of Tory cunts would have the brass neck to say Corbyn would be offering less.
    They would blame him for their offer being so shit though.

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    Replies to this give you an insight into what it's like being a doctor in this country. Every single doctor has personal stories like this.

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    We took our kids (5 & 3) to visit their 92 year old great-granda (they see him at home every week usually) who is currently in hospital following a minor stroke. We walked through the doors to be met by the nurse in charge telling us that kids aren’t allowed in due to the risk of infection. Is that actually a thing? @randomlegend might know I guess? No sign or anything up telling us.

    Of course my wife who teaches P1s and lives with our 2 children then spent the rest of the visiting time in with him.

    Edit: Saw RL was the most recent poster and it was about doctors, brain obviously didn’t clock this is the election thread.
    Last edited by CJay; 29-03-2023 at 09:53 PM.

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    IDK what the official rules are where I am, nurses tend to be the guardians of such things. I also haven't worked in an adult ward in ages. On paeds I think our rule is no more than two people by the bedside (one of which will be the parent/guardian who is staying with the child).

    My guess would be they just don't allow kids because it gets unmanageable and used "infection control mate" as an excuse they think people are less likely to argue with, but it could just as easily actually be an infection control policy as they almost never make any sense whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo View Post
    4.3% increase for teachers from September, 4% to come from existing budgets, plus £1k. Laughable offer, worse than Scotland and Wales. REJECT.
    Rejected.

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    Teachers

    RCN seems to be imploding in an undignified fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Probably the financial irregularities and the closeness of her husband to it all.
    Arrested. Well done.

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    Private eye have been banging on about it for a while so thanks to Ian Hislop.

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    Yeah it's been mentioned in quite a few issues this year.

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    I did think the trans thing was a bit of a weird hill to die on.

    RIP indyref.

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