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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    What are we supposed to actually do to win ya over?
    What do you mean by win me over? Think we can (have a decent chance to) win it?

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    I'd give anything for an England-Uruguay final. Uruguay, aside from the US Ryder Cup team, are to me sport's purest manifestation of evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino View Post
    Big after time, but I've never been as sure of anything as I was that Henderson was missing. Apart from that, it was all gravy.
    When he stepped up, the entire pub groaned. Everyone knew he was going to miss.

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    I thought Trashford was going to miss as well (especially with his retarded run-up/approach) but he nailed it.

    Didn't think any Colombian was going to miss, but was rock solid confident on Trippier, who has actually been our best player with an enormous gulf down to Kane in second place.

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    I thought Ashley Young had a good game tonight.

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    I thought Bacca was going to miss. But then again I also thought Cuadrado was going to miss.

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    I'm gonna be drunk off my ass from Friday lunch. If this WC wants to break this yellow and blue wall, it better throw something tougher at it than it has so far. The German game doesn't count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I thought Trashford was going to miss as well (especially with his retarded run-up/approach) but he nailed it.

    Didn't think any Colombian was going to miss, but was rock solid confident on Trippier, who has actually been our best player with an enormous gulf down to Kane in second place.
    You are better than that Jim

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    Just realized that I will miss the semifinal from the strong side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    You are better than that Jim
    I thought it was excellent.

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    Which just proves my alternate edit “that’s magic level Jim”

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor_balis View Post
    Yev you miserable cunt. It's funny when we're shit and you do the postmortem but preempting it when we're doing alright makes you an ambulance chasing hate-to-say-i-told-you-so bet-hedging PRICK. If it is coming home you're not allowed to take any joy in it. Arsehole. At least the scouse Baz family victim-complex refusal to fully embrace English identity comes from somewhere, you have no excuse.
    The scouse Baz family.
    I'm a twit

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    We were comfortably superior last night while barely creating a chance and not playing great, handily illustrating how guff this side of the draw is and what we might do if we actually put a performance in.

    Also Southgate is not good at subs.

    I don't think I enjoyed a second of last night outside celebrating the Kane goal and then the shootout... about an hour after I'd come down from utter disbelief.

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    In many ways (other than actually playing well) it was the perfect tournament performance. Calm on the ball, dominated possession, didn't try to force it (played at a snail's pace throughout) and gave them (almost) nothing. Also, not subbing off all of our decent penalty takers as the game progressed is a new, and awesome thing. Henderson missing must have been one of the most nailed on things in sporting history, and he's not even left-footed. Never in doubt with Dier, although in my mind I had him either full Julian Dicksing it or rolling it in with unnecessary nonchalance.

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    To be fair to Hendershit (lol) - it was a pretty good penalty matched with a good save. I thought we were good for large parts and it took a sensational shot to open the door for the corner. Rashford or Vardy should have come on earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Sweden is more like against like. Both honest, Protestant nations. We have by far the superior individuals so we have to be favourites.
    This is absolutely wrong.

    But, your players are better at football.

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    We have better individuals but I'm not sure about the better unit. We passed it well last night but completely lost focus when Columbia leveled. And I keep thinking Marcus Olsson could profit from us messing a corner up.

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    This is quite funny, The Independent have published the match reports they had to chuck out.

    1-0 England and England losing on penalties.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-a8430366.html

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    Having followed him since he was just some nerd blogger, Daniel Storeys rise to seemingly massive part of English Football Media Landscape is just weird.

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    It's laughable how the vast majority of Colombians piping up across various outlets on the internet seem to think they were cheated out of last night's game by the referee.

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    They literally didn't have a single decision go against them. They are just used to compliant local refs who buy into the mentality that 'gamesmanship' or whatever is fine.

    Carlos Sanchez, perhaps the tournament's worst player, should have gone for dissent. What were they even complaining about? I hope they go years without qualifying again.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 04-07-2018 at 10:46 AM.

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    I thought Ashley Young could easily have been sent off for going in studs up in extra time, but he won the foul instead. That's all I can think of.

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    A proper sport would be handing out retrospective bans for Colombia’s shenanigans after the penalty decision. Their dickhead midfielder following Kane around, scuffing the spot, and half their team surrounding the ref for several minutes protesting. Pathetic team.

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    I don't know how most of the England team kept their cool throughout all the provocation. Henderson's little head flick aside, I can't think of any retaliation to their antics.

    The ref just completely lost control in that second half.

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    The Ashley Young challenge is the only questionable call I can remember too.

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    I don't know what makes them do it. With Panama they are non league level so you can kind of understand it, but Colombia are all good footballers.

    I think there's an all-pervading victim complex in that part of the world, as there is in most Catholic countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino View Post
    I thought Ashley Young could easily have been sent off for going in studs up in extra time, but he won the foul instead. That's all I can think of.
    I thought Sterling reacted to something that could've seen him off.

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    Bugger knows how Barrios stayed on the pitch last night. Played on a booking for about seventy five minutes and spent all of that time kicking anyone he could get close to.

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    There were a few occasions, mostly involving Maguire where the Colombians were "scolded" by the referee while Maguire played saint I thought, but on the whole there's 0 doubt that the Colombians got the better end of the deal.

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    Falcao's comments are awesome.

    What a pleb.

    Cuadrado picking the wrong fight with Maguire was a sight to behold as well.

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    They've got the most obviously set up 'animal prediction' I've ever seen on Sky Sports News now. Some penguins are to eat from a red bucket if it's England, a blue bucket for Sweden. The red bucket was placed about six inches from where the penguins exit the water, the blue bucket at the other side of the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    What do you mean by win me over? Think we can (have a decent chance to) win it?
    We’re in a quarter-final against Sweden. Do you think we can’t?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    We’re in a quarter-final against Sweden. Do you think we can’t?
    If we beat Sweden, then yes we can, until then I'd say no. That said, I'm veering on the side of thinking that we might beat them.

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    What team would everyone like to play in a hypothetical final?

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    Brazil or Uruguay, probably Brazil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    What team would everyone like to play in a hypothetical final?
    Whichever we're most likely to beat, so no-one on the other side of the draw for a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    If we beat Sweden, then yes we can, until then I'd say no. That said, I'm veering on the side of thinking that we might beat them.
    We’re in a World Cup that Italy and Netherlands failed to qualify for. Spain, Portugal, Argentina and Germany have all crumbled. We have a fucking good chance here. We SHOULD beat Sweden (I don’t expect to, but we should), we’re atleast as good as Croatia so we have every chance. Then, we (probably) meet a Brazil team that aren’t what they once were and are kind of plodding. We absolutely have a shot here.

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    Realistically I doubt we'd have a chance against Brazil, there's just too much history and heritage that we'd be in awe of there. Uruguay would be a dull spectacle, Martinez simply can't be allowed to get that close to winning a world cup, so I'm going for France.

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    Uruguay so Suarez can break England hearts.
    I'm a twit

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    Brazil and France tear our defence to bits every time, no way we beat either of them. We're a sucker for shit teams with one good player so Uruguay beat us too. That leaves Belgium and I don't even want to entertain the notion of getting to the final only to lose to fucking Belgium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    We’re in a World Cup that Italy and Netherlands failed to qualify for. Spain, Portugal, Argentina and Germany have all crumbled. We have a fucking good chance here. We SHOULD beat Sweden (I don’t expect to, but we should), we’re atleast as good as Croatia so we have every chance. Then, we (probably) meet a Brazil team that aren’t what they once were and are kind of plodding. We absolutely have a shot here.
    Yeah, but we're still only (I know) in a quarter-final and (while we've ticked off the penalty victory now) reaching a semi-final is still a huge thing for us psychologically. If we do that and I'd agree that we should (if we play well and create chances, which we haven't really yet), then it's possible, yeah.

    Penalty victory aside (which I admit is a MASSIVE thing and can't be discounted), I still haven't seen a huge amount that separates us from other tournaments where we got no further than the quarter-finals, but beating Sweden, if we do, will change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    Brazil and France tear our defence to bits every time, no way we beat either of them. We're a sucker for shit teams with one good player so Uruguay beat us too. That leaves Belgium and I don't even want to entertain the notion of getting to the final only to lose to fucking Belgium.
    Didn't we have a rather close game with France recently?

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    I don't think so, we haven't played them for years have we?

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    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Didn't we have a rather close game with France recently?
    France won 3-2 but had a man sent off the whole of the second half at 2-2.

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    France aren't that good tbh. I'd fancy us to TACTICS it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Penalty victory aside (which I admit is a MASSIVE thing and can't be discounted), I still haven't seen a huge amount that separates us from other tournaments where we got no further than the quarter-finals, but beating Sweden, if we do, will change that.
    I feel like we have more of an actual plan than we have for most of the last 20 years even if that plan is dour as all hell. Southgate isn't simply best-eleven-ing it but then he doesn't have the players for that anyway so maybe it balances out.

    I'll be interested to see how I feel if we end up in another shootout. I didn't fully accept that we'd won last night for about 40 minutes.

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    It took me a while for it to sink in too.

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