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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    It's 1 or 2 kids out of hundreds.

    Hundreds of kids that aren't adhering to any bullshit guidelines, distancing, masks or sanitising.

    The fucking cold has a higher hit rate than this.
    He said it was three.
    They are.
    It probably doesn't.

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    They aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    They aren't.
    Indeed.

    It’s IMPOSSIBLE to socially distance in a school, or stick to the guidelines.
    I'm a twit

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    They won't be behaving entirely as they used to though, which is the point.

    All of these things help to mitigate spread from the fuck all we were doing in Spring.

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    The School pick up and drop off is different, but so far as I can see the kids are conducting themselves entirely as normal once inside.

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    I'm led to believe that under 11s are entirely as normal but secondary schools are all masked up and standing a mile apart from each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    The School pick up and drop off is different, but so far as I can see the kids are conducting themselves entirely as normal once inside.
    Aren't there bubbles within year groups and stuff like that? No Assembly? Etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I'm led to believe that under 11s are entirely as normal but secondary schools are all masked up and standing a mile apart from each other.
    Based on what nephews/nieces tell me they are meant to wear masks when they're in corridors etc.

    They're not allowed to socialise with people outside of their "bubbles", staggered end times (although schools will adjust those if you have a sibling in a different year so they can finish together) and each year group are only allowed in certain buildings/sections of the schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Aren't there bubbles within year groups and stuff like that? No Assembly? Etc?
    Sort of, but the bubbles are just the year groups. Or they are at my daughters age anyway, and I don't think they ever did assemblies for the really little ones. She is free to play with anyone from within the 2 reception classes.

    On that front, the kid of the person that tested positive has now tested negative so they all went back this morning. Although I believe the kid that needed a test still has to stay off for the 14 days.

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    There's a fine balance to strike, and yes, there's definitely contact between students. But things are definitely not normal, despite what Airport Trouserwetter claims.

    As far as I know, there's:

    • Staggered arrival/leaving times
    • Reduced class sizes
    • "Bubbles" per year group
    • Masks in corridors
    • Hand sanitizing in and out of classes


    There's probably stuff I've missed. Is it enough? Who knows, but it's definitely a lot more than it was back in March.

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    Not in all schools.

    Sure some are nailing it, but some have carried on as normal.
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    Speaking exclusively about the school my wife works at.

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    Is it a high school? Primary schools are absolutely as normal.

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    My nephew and niece are in primary school and they're definitely not operating as normal at the one they go to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    My nephew and niece are in primary school and they're definitely not operating as normal at the one they go to.
    Can you go in to further detail on this? My wean's school has tried to put some stuff in but it's completely pointless and not enforced (because it literally can't be).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Can you go in to further detail on this? My wean's school has tried to put some stuff in but it's completely pointless and not enforced (because it literally can't be).
    Probs more difficult in a special needs school, innit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Probs more difficult in a special needs school, innit.
    Presumptuous but I suppose Yev is mighty auti so it's not a bad shout his niece and nephew will be too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Can you go in to further detail on this? My wean's school has tried to put some stuff in but it's completely pointless and not enforced (because it literally can't be).
    I'm with them over the weekend and I'll get the full lowdown from them then.

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    What will swing a lockdown is the hospital rates. At the peak, we had 20,000 in hospital beds. Ventilators peaked at 3,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    • Staggered arrival/leaving times
    • Reduced class sizes
    • "Bubbles" per year group
    • Masks in corridors
    • Hand sanitizing in and out of classes
    This is what my school has done, and I get the impression that the vast majority of secondaries have adopted these policies as part of the guidelines given by PHE and the DfE. However, the 'they are adhering/they aren't argument' isn't as binary as Yev and Magic tried to argue above. Some kids are anxious to the point of running away from home to protect their family (genuinely went from Wiltshire to Dover), the majority do their best, wear their masks and follow the one way system in place and then a minority that are either too dense/spiteful to follow the guidance unless they have it repeated over and over.

    We haven't closed a year group yet but numerous schools around us have. Mostly seems to be Year 9, for some reason.

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    Restrictions coming in for the North-East tomorrow, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Restrictions coming in for the North-East tomorrow, apparently.
    Northumberland, Newcastle, Sunderland, North and South Tyneside, Gateshead and County Durham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Restrictions coming in for the North-East tomorrow, apparently.
    Settle yourself down.

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    I am settled. I'm just mildly miffed I can't do owt over my week off.

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    Neil Warnock's got it.

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    Oof. He could actually be in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    That graph is going to be the yard stick re lockdown. Surely it's all about beds being taken up in hospitals, especially as we go into the winter months and flu season.

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    Yep, if hospital admissions continue up then it's game over.

    Have the turkey now.

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    But it's counting people who go in with something else and either catch it in hospital or happen to have it at the same time. Once again numbers alone don't show the full picture...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    But it's counting people who go in with something else and either catch it in hospital or happen to have it at the same time. Once again numbers alone don't show the full picture...
    What?

    Either way, those people have Coronavirus. This isn't good.

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    And have they been increasing that way of recording figures throughout September? It's going up whichever way you cut it.

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    Brought up the fact that local cases have rocketed since schools opened in a meeting. Silence as the experts seemed to ponder it for the first time in their lives.

    Apparently they’re blaming it on 18-24 year olds catching it in pubs and then giving it to their 49-54 year old parents, presumably with a view to trying to get pubs to close again, which is pointless.

    Pubs seem to be following guidelines better than schools from what I’ve heard, for a start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Brought up the fact that local cases have rocketed since schools opened in a meeting. Silence as the experts seemed to ponder it for the first time in their lives.

    Apparently they’re blaming it on 18-24 year olds catching it in pubs and then giving it to their 49-54 year old parents, presumably with a view to trying to get pubs to close again, which is pointless.

    Pubs seem to be following guidelines better than schools from what I’ve heard, for a start.
    In my experience supermarkets and small shops are the worst. Restaurants and pubs seem to be absolutely following guidelines and it just seems incredibly harsh they are copping for it.

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    Nicola Bludgeon is considering a full country wide lockdown like the one we saw before on the basis of:


    • 52 people are in hospital with the virus
    • 5 people in intensive care


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    At this stage, it seems fairly clear the second wave is on course to happen along the same lines as the first so to take measures before we get to the Thursday group pot-banging stage makes sense.

    That's not me doing an Odemwingie parked outside Team Panic's stadium btw, I'm just saying let's let go of the 'second wave isn't even a thing' line and all get behind the 'you're all a bunch of melts' line.

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    Here's some things I don't get:

    1) 'new cases' were in the thousands when testing wasn't even in existence, double negatives, false positives, hardly any capacity etc
    2) this is the same figure as back then, when we are testing the tits off everyone
    3) on the back of that, why are we seeing thousands of new cases a day yet hardly any deaths?
    4) remember when we didn't wear masks? Why wasn't everyone dying then?
    5) 5G

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    Google "estimate how of how many people had Coronavirus in Spring" and you'll get part of the answer.

    If the death rate is 1% then 40,000 deaths = four million people had it, not the sub 400,000 that's been recorded.

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    "If".

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    If I could be fucked to get the spreadsheet out I'd be able to see where we actually are vs. where we were and therefore how much wiggle room we have (it's still loads compared to Spring), but I really can't be arsed.

    Ultimately, there will be more measures, there will be a second wave, but it won't be as bad as the first as that would be more or less impossible. Come Spring 2021, we can then all finally move on with our lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    "If".
    It might well be lower, if it's half a percent then it's 8 million people that had it, which given we were doing nothing for months, doesn't sound that unlikely.

    Not a chance in hell even a million people have it again yet.

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    Think we need to lose the notion that lockdown meant everyone stayed inside and didn't even open their curtains, maybe for 2 months movements were "severely" restricted, however cunts were still piling in to fucking massive shops, takeaways, queueing for shit etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    If I could be fucked to get the spreadsheet out I'd be able to see where we actually are vs. where we were and therefore how much wiggle room we have (it's still loads compared to Spring), but I really can't be arsed.

    Ultimately, there will be more measures, there will be a second wave, but it won't be as bad as the first as that would be more or less impossible. Come Spring 2021, we can then all finally move on with our lives.
    But you can't, because both of those are guesses. There will be more measures, based on nobody wanting to look like cunts like last time but it'll have much further reaching repercussions. Fuck it and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    But you can't, because both of those are guesses. There will be more measures, based on nobody wanting to look like cunts like last time but it'll have much further reaching repercussions. Fuck it and move on.
    There are assumptions, sure, but it'd be in the right area.

    Ultimately I don't understand why you (or anyone else) is struggling to understand why we're not seeing significant numbers of deaths again yet.

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    I do understand, from what I can see on my Facebook, Twitter, and MSM it seems like they don't. That was my point, it's blindingly obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Think we need to lose the notion that lockdown meant everyone stayed inside and didn't even open their curtains, maybe for 2 months movements were "severely" restricted, however cunts were still piling in to fucking massive shops, takeaways, queueing for shit etc.
    Yes, but we did nothing in the run up to lockdown. Nothing. Filthy bastards weren't even washing their hands. We let the virus run rampant for at least three months, perhaps longer and that's why we got to where we did. While it's not perfect still, we've basically done the complete opposite since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Yes, but we did nothing in the run up to lockdown. Nothing. Filthy bastards weren't even washing their hands. We let the virus run rampant for at least three months, perhaps longer and that's why we got to where we did. While it's not perfect still, we've basically done the complete opposite since.
    Mate, filthy bastards gonna filthy bastard. They still aren't washing their hands, kids still aren't social distancing, older kids are still having house parties, sloots still slooting. Open the clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    I do understand
    Why are you posting things like this then?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Here's some things I don't get:


    3) on the back of that, why are we seeing thousands of new cases a day yet hardly any deaths?

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    It was more of a sarcastic Twitter type response.

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