The NFL Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Okay, I like this a lot.

Still need an interior OL but I like big WRs.

[Dan]

Nah, N'Keal is good but his ceiling is highest because he's on the Patriots. He's not got great separation ability, but as you say he's a good runner with the ball in his hands & he can bring in some stupid catches. It'll all come down to whether he can actually separate at the next level, but I can see him having a Corey Davis-esque start to his career if things don't go his way. Then again, he's on the Patriots so of course things will go his way.

Miles Boykin is a nice upside pick for Baltimore, and Oshane Ximines could be okay for the Giants I guess. Jamel Dean to Tampa is fine by me.

[Dan]

Bills pick:

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Dawson Knox

Bills are another team high up the 'good draft' list

[Dan]

Bobby Evans is a nice pick for the Rams. Could be the guy who ends up taking over from Andrew Whitworth.

Okay, we've had the first player drafted I've literally never heard of. Well done Jacksonville & Quincy Williams. Both DJ & Matt Miller haven't even bothered to grade him, and I don't think any of the internet guys have either He's Quinnen's brother though, apparently.

Mike Edwards to the Bucs is solid.

[Dan]

Not confirmed yet, but potentially huge news on the Carolina pick...

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It is that & I have no idea what to think.

[Dan]

Figured the Patriots would take at least one lineman after all those DTs joining the AFC East yesterday. It'll be interesting to see whether he stays at tackle or moves inside to guard.

Vikings have their replacement for Latavius now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bobby Evans is a nice pick for the Rams. Could be the guy who ends up taking over from Andrew Whitworth.

Okay, we've had the first player drafted I've literally never heard of. Well done Jacksonville & Quincy Williams. Both DJ & Matt Miller haven't even bothered to grade him, and I don't think any of the internet guys have either He's Quinnen's brother though, apparently.

Mike Edwards to the Bucs is solid.

Walterfootball doesn't have him in his top 500 prospects and Draftscout have him listed at safety with no rankings or anything.

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Sounds like they could have picked him up as a UDFA.

[Dan]

You have to assume they had some intel that suggested at least 1-2 other teams had r3/4 grades on him, otherwise what the fuck are they doing taking a known UDFA candidate on day two?

[Dan]

In terms of players left on the board who are likely to be in play tonight, we have:

QB:

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- Drew Lock, Missouri
- Will Grier, West Virginia
- Ryan Finley, NC State
- Tyree Jackson, Buffalo

RB:

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- Miles Sanders, Penn State
- David Montgomery, Iowa State
- Darrell Henderson, Memphis
- Damien Harris, Alabama

WR:

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- DK Metcalf, Ole Miss (injury history & poor combine agilities)
- Kelvin Harmon, NC State
- Hakeem Butler, Iowa State
- AJ Brown, Ole Miss
- Parris Campbell, Ohio State
- Deebo Samuel, South Carolina
- JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Stanford
- Riley Ridley, Georgia
- Terry McLaurin, Ohio State

TE:

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- Irv Smith Jr, Alabama
- Jace Sternberger, Texas A&M
- Dawson Knox, Ole Miss
- Kahale Warring, San Diego State
- Foster Moreau, LSU

OL

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- RT Jawaan Taylor, Florida (apparently he has a knee injury that scared teams off him in R1)
- RT/G Cody Ford, Oklahoma
- OL Dalton Risner, Kansas State
- C/G Erik McCoy, Texas A&M
- C/G Elgton Jenkins, Mississippi State
- OL Michael Deiter, Wisconsin
- G Nate Davis, Charlotte
- OT Greg Little, Ole Miss

DL

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- Khalen Saunders, Western Illinois
- Dre'Mont Jones, Ohio State
- Renell Wren, Arizona State
- DL/EDGE Zach Allen, Boston College
- DL/EDGE Charles Omenihu, Texas
- DL/EDGE Jaylon Ferguson, Louisiana Tech

EDGE

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- Jachai Polite, Florida (bombed the combine & pro day, some attitude concerns)
- Chase Winovich, Michigan
- Christian Miller, Alabama (lots of injuries)
- Ben Banogu, TCU

LB:

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- Mack Wilson, Alabama
- Blake Cashman, Minnesota
- Drue Tranquill, Notre Dame
- Vosean Joseph, Florida

DB:

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- CB Greedy Williams, LSU (attitude concerns)
- CB Byron Murphy, Washington (small & not super fast)
- DB Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Florida
- DB Nasir Adderley, Delaware
- CB Julian Love, Notre Dame
- S Taylor Rapp, Washington
- CB Rock Ya-Sin, Temple
- CB Amani Oruwariye, Penn State
- DB Juan Thornhill, Virginia
- S Deionte Thompson, Alabama
- CB Sean Bunting, Central Michigan
- CB Justin Layne, Michigan State
- S Amani Hooker, Iowa
- CB Joejuan Williams, Vanderbilt
- CB Lonnie Johnson, Kentucky
- CB Trevon Mullen, Clemson

Ones in bold are still there. Plenty of bargains to be had. I knew LBs would be a mess, but I thought at least Mack Wilson would have been off the board.

[Ian]

Talk to me about Drew Lock, college nerds.

I like the sound of this DT we've taken.

[Dan]

Talk to me about Drew Lock, college nerds.

I like the sound of this DT we've taken.

He's the usual Elway QB - white, tall, mobile & has a big arm - but he's actually got a shot to be a legit starter. Really likeable guy, and it sounds like he idolises Elway, so it should be a good fit, and there was talk they'd take him at 10 so it's great value as well.

I really like Dre'Mont Jones too - he's not the greatest run defender, but he's a great option as a gap shooter & pass rusher. You should be VERY happy with the last two drafts.

[Ian]

Drafts or picks?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The analysts said that Drew Lock's NFL comparison is Jay Cutler.

So good luck with that.

[Dan]

I've updated the watch lists.

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QB:

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- Ryan Finley, NC State
- Tyree Jackson, Buffalo
- Jarrett Stidham, Auburn
- Brett Rypien, Boise State
- Jordan Ta'amu, Ole Miss
- Kyle Shurmur, Vanderbilt (Giants is the obvious destination here, so I kinda expect someone to take him in R6 if they have any interest in him)

RB:

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- Karan Higdon, Michigan
- Justice Hill, Oklahoma State
- Elijah Holyfield, Georgia
- Darrin Hall, Pittsburgh
- Trayveon Williams, Texas A&M
- Devine Ozigbo, Nebraska
- Myles Gaskin, Washington
- Benny Snell, Kentucky
- James Williams, Washington State
- Bryce Love, Stanford
- Rodney Anderson, Oklahoma (another guy who's hurt all the time, but one of the best in the class when he's actually able to play)
- Mike Weber, Ohio State

WR:

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- Kelvin Harmon, NC State
- Hakeem Butler, Iowa State
- Riley Ridley, Georgia
- Stanley Morgan, Nebraska
- Hunter Renfrow, Clemson
- David Sills V, West Virginia
- Jakobi Meyers, NC State
- Emanuel Hall, Missouri
- Antoine Wesley, Texas Tech (Arizona to reunite with Kliff?)
- Dillon Mitchell, Oregon
- Penny Hart, Georgia Tech
- Preston Williams, Colorado State (another guy with off field/violence against women issues)

TE:

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- Foster Moreau, LSU
- Dax Raymond, Utah State
- Trevon Wesco, West Virginia
- Donald Parham, Stetson (6ft 8in & build like a WR)
- Alize Mack, Notre Dame

OL

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- C/G Lamont Gaillard, Georgia (my guy)
- G Beau Benzschawel, Wisconsin (like him too)
- RT David Edwards, Wisconsin (converted TE, but I think he'll end up a guard)
- G Dru Samia, Oklahoma (mean dude)
- G Ben Powers, Oklahoma
- C Sam Mustipher, Notre Dame (might go undrafted but I like him)
- C/G Ross Pierschbacher, Alabama
- C/G Hjalte Froholdt, Arkansas
- OT Oli Udo, Elon
- OT Mitch Hyatt, Clemson (widely regarded as trash, but could get drafted early today as he's a big name from a big school)

DL

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- Renell Wren, Arizona State
- DL/EDGE Charles Omenihu, Texas
- Daylon Mack, Texas A&M
- Greg Gaines, Washington (likely a late pick as he's a pure nose tackle, but I like him)
- Terry Beckner, Missouri
- Ronald Ollie, Nicholls State (the guy from Last Chance U season 1, had a seriously good pro day so he's got a shot at getting drafted late)
- Michael Dogbe, Temple
- Daniel Wise, Kansas
- Kingsley Keke, Texas A&M
- Isaiah Buggs, Alabama

EDGE

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- Christian Miller, Alabama (lots of injuries)
- Anthony Nelson, Iowa (massive for an EDGE at 6ft 7in)
- Wyatt Ray, Boston College
- Austin Bryant, Clemson (see Mitch Hyatt)

LB:

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- Mack Wilson, Alabama
- Blake Cashman, Minnesota
- Drue Tranquill, Notre Dame
- Vosean Joseph, Florida
- Dakota Allen, Texas Tech (another Last Chance U alum - the guy who did the robbery)
- Deshaun Davis, Auburn
- Cameron Smith, USC
- David Long, West Virginia (yes, there are two David Long's in this class)

DB:

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- DB Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Florida (apparently his interview were bad, but they must have been all time awful considering Jachai Polite has gone)
- CB Julian Love, Notre Dame
- CB Amani Oruwariye, Penn State
- S Deionte Thompson, Alabama
- S Amani Hooker, Iowa
- CB Mark Fields, Clemson (small & some attitude concerns, but he can play)
- S Ugochukwu Amadi, Oregon
- S Evan Worthington, Colorado
- S Jaquan Johnson, Miami
- CB Michael Jackson, Miami (shamone!)
- S Zedrick Woods, Ole Miss (ran a stupidly fast 40 at the combine that nobody saw coming)
- CB Isaiah Johnson, Houston (all time combine performance but not that good as a corner)
- CB Saivion Smith, Alabama
- S D'Cota Dixon, Wisconsin (possible UDFA but a guy to root for)
- CB Kris Boyd, Texas (the single grabbiest defender I've ever seen - remember that Brandon Browner season a few years back? He's like that)
- S Sheldrick Redwine, Miami
- CB Clifton Duck, Appalachian State (draftable just for his name)
- CB Stephen Denmark, Valdosta State (6ft 4in converted WR with great testing)
- S Marvell Tell, USC

[Dan]

Drafts or picks?

Drafts. 2018 was a great draft & this one has been one of the better ones too so far. Houston is the only one I can think of that's legitimately questionable off the top of my head though.

QB - Lock
RB - Lindsay & Freeman
WR - Sanders, Sutton & Hamilton
TE - Fant

That's a tasty offence, and Risner should be great for the line too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We have 5 picks left (three in the 4th, 1 in the 5th and 1 in the 6th).

Got to imagine we'll target an interior OL (probably two), a MLB, a DB and then either another WR, DL or RB.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and you can never rule out a TE ofc.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Day 3 is starting now.

[Dan]

Starting strong

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Hakeem Butler

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This draft selection host

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bengals surely going QB.

[Dan]

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Bengals trade up for Ryan Finley. Meh.

[Dan]

We've traded up again...

Fucking LOL He's my 20th best player in the entire class. We've crushed our first two picks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And got the guy you love.

[Giggles]

Why are picks being spoilered? Nobody would watch this back.

[Dan]

He might be the long term nickel guy for us after Patrick Robinson.

Marcus Williams
Vonn Bell
Marshon Lattimore
Eli Apple
Chauncey Gardner-Johnson

That's a quality set of DBs

[Dan]

Why are picks being spoilered? Nobody would watch this back.

I'm watching a stream that's tipping the picks ahead of them being announced, so playing it safe. If Mahow's happy to have them early I'll post them unspoilered.

[Giggles]

I'm watching a stream that's tipping the picks ahead of them being announced, so playing it safe. If Mahow's happy to have them early I'll post them unspoilered.

Ah,

[Dan]

Tampa just full on setting up a new defence this draft.


Giants pick:

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Julian Love. Really nice pick for once

To be honest the picks will be coming so fast today there probably won't be much difference by the time I've managed to type the pick out.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Julian Love is a great pick there.

And I don't care Dan, I usually only refresh/post when I see the latest pick.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

PUNTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Let's go bitches.

[Dan]

PUNTER TIME

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rich Eisen's reaction was great.

[Dan]

They're people too you know.

Kendall Sheffield is all kinds of fast, but also bad.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I like that the Redskins got their two first round picks to announce a pick.

[Dan]

Bryce Love, huh?

Love, Guice, AP & Chris Thompson all on the roster, plus Fat Rob & Samaje Perine still there (I think?).

I'm not getting these picks any quicker at this point.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hmm, would have thought we'd target an interior OL first but I guess we really liked Justice Hill.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We did need some sort of home run guy though.

[Dan]

Yo, that's a great pick 'how. He's your very own Kamara.

[Dan]

Vikings take Dru Samia. That O-line is looking much better now with Elflein-Bradbury-Samia in the middle.

[Dan]

OH SHIT, Carolina have Brian Burns & Christian Miller

Speed & bend FOR DAYS.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yo, that's a great pick 'how. He's your very own Kamara.

Perfect for us really.

Gus, Ingram and Dixon are all more physical runners so it's nice to add someone who can go out there now and then and try to get some big yards.

[Dan]

Justice Hill, Hollywood & Loomar running a jet motion/triple option offence

[Dan]

Sheldrick Redwine to the Browns

[Dan]

Seahawks building a WR group of terminators with DK & Gary Jennings. Tyler Lockett is going to look like a child next to them.

[Dan]

Trevon Wesco

Benny Snell is a proper Steelers pick. He likes to refer to himself in the third person too

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Trevon Wesco

Benny Snell is a proper Steelers pick. He likes to refer to himself in the third person too

He would have got on well with Mr Big Chest.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mo announcing with braille

Hero.

And we get a fucking guard \0/.

[Dan]

There's your lineman. Not as mean as Samia, but he's solid.

[Dan]

Chuck in another big, mean dude with Phil Haynes.

Yeah, R4 is the round of big, physical dudes. This is Renell Wren:

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Anthony Miller & Riley Ridley on the same team suggests Chicago are going full technician squad at WR.