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    I thought it was quite good. Although I'm not sure if I can deal with another series of thinking I know what's going on for 55 minutes, only for them to whip the rug away before the closing credits. Every. Fucking. Week.

    I will though, mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Ah ok, cheers. I only knew about the Netflix seasons. It’s new to me.
    The world building in it is absolutely brilliant. I think I realised it was going to be pretty intelligent fare early on, when the 'torture' for the terrorist lad from the asteroid belt was just being made to stand up under his own strength with actual gravity. The sort of little detail that really makes you buy into a world.

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    My favourite thing about it is the UI design of stuff like the phones/tablets they all use.

    Also some scene I remember in the first season when they’re in this city with Miller and there’s loads of drone delivery things flying around. So cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    My favourite thing about it is the UI design of stuff like the phones/tablets they all use.


    You nerd.

    I might have to start watching this with the glowing praise in here. It sounds like it'd be right up my street anyway. And John's never usually wrong about TV shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    The world building in it is absolutely brilliant. I think I realised it was going to be pretty intelligent fare early on, when the 'torture' for the terrorist lad from the asteroid belt was just being made to stand up under his own strength with actual gravity. The sort of little detail that really makes you buy into a world.
    The "flip and burn" to turn the Canterbury around in the very first episode was the same sort of lightbulb moment for me. Really a very good show.

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    Stating the obvious but I watched a bunch of compilations of clips from The Wire on youtube the other night, first time I've seen it for years, and I was reminded of how brilliant it was.

    Having watched more polished shows since I sort of do notice that the acting isn't always perfect but, and I know this makes me sound like a wanker, I feel it doesn't matter that much cus it almost adds to the GRITTY REALISM of the thing.

    It was the first time I've seen the scene where
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    since I watched the show originally. Amazing stuff. "you look good, girl"

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    Every time I've watched it back, I've thought Idris Elba was rubbish in it (although Stringer was great, if that makes sense).

    I have often wondered why they bothered getting him and Dominic West over as I'm pretty sure there are fairly stringent visa rules there regarding actors for TV.

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    It took me about three tries to get past Sonja Sohn's 'Aight, tell me what I'm seeing girl' in the car stop scene coming so quickly on the back of 'Snot Boogie' in the opening.

    I'd disagree that Idris Elba is crap, but he probably isn't in the top ten in terms of performances even though his character is top three.

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    Watched the first season of The Umbrella Academy over the last few days and I absolutely loved it. I've heard some people moan about the pacing but I love a bit of a slow burn.

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    I've gone through all the The Magicians seasons to date. It's... I dunno. I read one of the books and both enjoyed and hated it for being cringeworthy at the same time. The series is the same. First season really is pretty cringeworthy at times, and the whole premise is just so damn odd. Still, I'm hooked now.

    There's this one character, Eliot, who proper carries the show.

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    Brooklyn Nine Nine is done. Down the tubes.

    I thought it couldn't get any worse than the Gina episode but the whole 'THIS EPISODE HAS A MESSAGE' was a new low. Holt has been made into a cartoon character too.


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    I've watched You over the last week. It was actually quite good.

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    Got into Archer at the third time of asking (pilot never blew me away and struggled with Archer and Bob from Bob's Burgers sounding the same) and am now into season 8. Presuming the best is behind us now.
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    Vice and the last two were shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Vice and the last two were shit.
    I didn’t mind Vice, but it wasn’t a patch on the rest. Not sure why creators feel compelled to keep looking for zany alternative universes for the ISIS crew to inhabit.

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    I stopped watching during the first episode of the noir season. It just wasn't the same anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Brooklyn Nine Nine is done. Down the tubes.

    I thought it couldn't get any worse than the Gina episode but the whole 'THIS EPISODE HAS A MESSAGE' was a new low. Holt has been made into a cartoon character too.


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    Yup. Last 3 episodes have been garbage. Which is a real shame.

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    What have they done to it?

    I've not seen any of the latest season yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    What have they done to it?

    I've not seen any of the latest season yet.
    This latest one was all about
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    to the extent that they just rammed it down your throat and loosely built a storyline about it.

    They also had some rubbish pointless sub story that was basically Holt but multiplied by 10. They've made him ridiculous.

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    The one with the Gina replacement being Indian Holt was joyous. I haven't watched the latest episode yet, but they generally do the issue episodes pretty well, although the combination of issue episode and directed by a cast member doesn't fill me with optimism.

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    I liked the last 'spy' episode too, Indian Holt was excellent. Holt is the bigger crime than the issue episode thing in this latest one.

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    Four episodes into the latest True Detective season and while it's back to great, it's still far off from the first season. The dynamic between the Detectives that Harrelson and Mcconnaughey had isn't there (and won't every be in television again, I suspect).

    The first season had a way of making the slow passages seem interesting that is sort of lacking a bit here. I find myself just wanting to get to the resolution to figure out what the fuck is up (cause 4 episodes in I still really have no inkling).

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    I thought it was worth sticking with. Still no patch on season 1 but pretty good TV.

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    The latest Brooklyn Nine Nine was absolutely fine. Far from the best episode they've done but declaring the show finished because of it, particularly when it's coming on the back of an episode as good as the one before it, is just stupid. Holt becoming a cartoon is a much bigger problem, and one which Ital and I identified years ago to lots of moaning from the resident nuggets.

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    Some geezer winning half a million like it's no bother.

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    Fleabag is phenomenal.

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    Anyone like Simon Reeve? I know he's basically just a charming baby-faced posho doing travelogues (I don't think you could make up a job more inherently nepotistic aside from maybe newspaper think piece writer), but I just think his shows are just...I dunno, really watchable.

    Places That Don't Exist (disputed territories like nagorno-karabakh) and Meet The Stans (duh) are really great mindless tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    Some geezer winning half a million like it's no bother.
    Right easy question for a million as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Right easy question for a million as well.
    what were 500k and 1m questions?

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    Season 3 of True Detective is worth sticking with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Right easy question for a million as well.
    Ingram's million question was a piece of piss (a number one followed by 100 0's is called...) and he needed someone to cough for him the useless twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor_balis View Post
    Anyone like Simon Reeve?
    Top bloke.

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    Anyone watch this Formula 1 thing on Netflix? Came up there when I opened it to play Discovery. Any good?

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    Is that the one where they have to pretend like Ferrari and Mercedes don't exist?

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    After Life is actually alright. You will have heard half the material in his stand-up before, but it isn't toilet like Derek.

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    I quite enjoyed it, yes.

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    Derek is fascinatingly bad. Significantly worse than when the whistle blows.

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    I thought the first season was watchable. The second season, including the reconciliation with his dad, was up there with the worst shit I've ever watched.

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    I watched the Extras Christmas episode the other week, and it was a lot crapper than I remembered it being (the ending being slightly ironic now given his own conduct these days), so I might re-watch the series at some point.

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    I watched After Life tonight. Really enjoyed it.

    The fat bloke slurping the breast milk really made me laugh. As did a five-legged slut. Actually, quite a lot of it did. I haven’t watched his standup since Science and Animals so all new to me.

    Heroin looks good, an’ all.
    I'm a twit

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    Derry Girls is brilliant. One of the funniest things I've watched in a while.

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    Yes!

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    Been trying to persuade my mate to watch the Wire for YEARS, and he's started it and got bored of it after an episode or two about 4 times, and I've never watched Games of Thrones except episode 1 with a girl I was trying to shag about 5 years ago. We drunkenly made a deal to watch 2 episodes of each show a week then compare notes. About to start GoT now, clearly leaving university hasn't changed my approach to handling deadlines.

    Trying to keep an open mind, but I fucking hate pixies and dragons and ye olde medieval cunts with swords and shit. At least hoping I hate it less than I hated LOTR.

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    For what it's worth, I don't like that shit either. GoT is mostly good for the politics. And yes, LoTR is bollocks.

    Has anyone seen OA? I'm watching the 2nd series. It's decent. It probably would have been bigger if Stranger Things didn't exist.
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    I don't normally like that shit either but Game of Thrones is quality.

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    Same-ish, but the acting in GoT is very wooden. Nowhere near as good as The Wire in that regard.

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    In fairness I didn't think the acting was the stronget point of the wire. Sopranos the pinnacle in that regard for me, with an honourable mention for six feet under which is always massively underrated in the "BEST TV SHOWS EVER" discussions IMHO.

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    Gandolfini was a 10/10 there but I think most of the other actors on that show were about on the same level as most of the actors on the Wire. Thing is the Wire had so many different characters to spread around the acting roles that some (michael b jordan) were bound to disappoint a little bit. That said, i don’t remember a single character in the Wire that was poorly acted

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    Gandolfini was a 10/10 there but I think most of the other actors on that show were about on the same level as most of the actors on the Wire. Thing is the Wire had so many different characters to spread around the acting roles that some (michael b jordan) were bound to disappoint a little bit. That said, i don’t remember a single character in the Wire that was poorly acted
    I think both shows were really good at getting the best out of their actors. I've seen a lot of criticism of Steven Van Zandt (Silvio Dante), and even though he's not even an actor (mostly known as one of Springsteen's guitarists), I thought he was absolutely fine in the the Sopranos. I've also seen loads of people roast Dominic West for his shit American accent but I didn't even realise he was an English posho until afterwards. The fact I was a 16 year old div when I first watched it might be a mitigating factor, though.

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