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Thread: Merry Christmas...it's December Football 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    It's VAR. If it hadn't happened we wouldn't be getting this crap and if you don't adjust the rules to compensate for these all too obvious outcomes then the implementation of the system is shit.

    EDIT: Maybe a bit of both, but you get the idea.
    It’s sucking any immediate excitement out of the sport and is only going to get worse. After a good portion of goals now you’re straight to looking at the referee and waiting for the stupid review, no immediate celebration.
    Once that’s completely gone, the game at the top level is gone.

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    It’s been fine in other leagues, the Premier League has just made a mess of it so far. It has been getting a bit better though.

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    Ali being a cunt as usual.

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    What should the offside rule look like, according to those that think that the rule is the issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    What should the offside rule look like, according to those that think that the rule is the issue?
    How about: both of the attacker’s feet have to be ahead of the furthest defender’s trailing foot for the attacker to be offside

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    How will that change having to review every call to make sure that there is not one micrometer of overlap?

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    I feel like wherever you draw the line, people are always going to complain about the offside decisions where the player is only a hair's breadth over said line.

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    Yes, as long as there is a line, the problem remains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    How will that change having to review every call to make sure that there is not one micrometer of overlap?
    It won’t. VAR does that no matter what. But that’s not the problem

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    What's the problem then?

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    I've only just seen the one from this match, it isn't even that close. He's obviously offside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    What's the problem then?
    It’s a game of inches. Giving the attacker an extra few inches, maybe feet, makes a huge difference in terms of the passing, attacking that can take place. You could also put a 15 cm buffer around the last defender that the attacker can be in, would have the same effect

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    That was a fantastic goal.

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    I did always say that offside would be the thing that kills it and it looks like it is.

    You either accept that some decisions will be wrong and you get the benefit of being able to celebrate a goal almost immediately as a result, or you use VAR and have to deal with all the tedium that follows thereafter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    It’s a game of inches. Giving the attacker an extra few inches, maybe feet, makes a huge difference in terms of the passing, attacking that can take place. You could also put a 15 cm buffer around the last defender that the attacker can be in, would have the same effect
    You're still just moving the line and people will still have the same complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    You're still just moving the line and people will still have the same complaints.
    I know. I’m more concerned about VAR ruling out goals that would otherwise have been given through benefit of the doubt, and in doing so making the sport less dynamic and direct. People will always complain once you give them the tools to do so.

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    VAR is supposed to remove doubt from the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    It’s a game of inches. Giving the attacker an extra few inches, maybe feet, makes a huge difference in terms of the passing, attacking that can take place. You could also put a 15 cm buffer around the last defender that the attacker can be in, would have the same effect
    If the idea is to give attackers an advantage over defenders in an attempt to create more chances, maybe I could get on board with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I did always say that offside would be the thing that kills it and it looks like it is.
    Everyone always said that, it was obvious. At least VAR was implemented in a time when offsides per match are way down. Imagine having VAR at the turn of the century, when the most common tactic was hoofing long balls to your pacey striker who was constantly trying to get behind the defensive line. Some matches would still be ongoing to this day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Everyone always said that, it was obvious. .
    Seemingly not so much as the authorities went ahead and did it anyway.

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    The authorities care for very different things than we do.

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    This Amazon coverage is alright. Sided with Chelsea v Southampton as it might be the better watch and influences our end of the table (that we're nowhere near).

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    I was right about Pepe. 3 managers and none of them think he’s worth a start. 70 million quid down the drain with that one.

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    How long are we giving Arteta until the stress of arsenal attacks his hair?

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    Unstoppable force vs immovable object that one.

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    Chelsea are horribleeeee at home. Nice finish from Obafemi Martins

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    How come Obafemi was playing? I thought the manager had took a big disliking to him.

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    Eoin Doyle gets 11 in a row. Town 3 up by half time. Best not Chuck this one away as well.

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    Hudson Odoi has come back from his injury looking like a non league player.

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    Achilles injuries are absolute killers. You can barely walk let alone play.

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    A piss poor day like this will hardly entice Amazon/Premier Sports back for much more.

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    I'm getting frustrated that almost every team I back these days, the opponent wins. I'm not talking one or two on a coupon, I'm talking every fucking team for at least 3/4 weeks.

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    PS. The quality on show in all these Premier League goals is abysmal. I thought Boxing Day usually meant goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smjffy View Post
    I'm getting frustrated that almost every team I back these days, the opponent wins. I'm not talking one or two on a coupon, I'm talking every fucking team for at least 3/4 weeks.
    Maybe don't gamble then?

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    Chelsea

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    Chelsea becoming an Arsenal 08-12 tribute act. It’s fun to watch but fuck me is it infuriating chucking easy games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    Maybe don't gamble then?
    Funny. A fool and his money are easily parted.

    The turn around is currently on. If of course Arsenal pull their finger out.

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    The AFTV lot have scarpered after one of them got arrested. Thank fuck this lot are finally being chucked out.

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    A bit like United, we haven't yet worked out how to play on the front foot. Unlike United, we will get there.

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    This must be the 4th place that no one wants.

    Concern for todays game. If there is a weakness in this team it's when we have the ball for extended periods and then get countered, something which Leicester can do to deadly effect.
    There's a tough run of fixtures from now until the "winter break." Though being 13 points clear at this point even I'd see it as difficult for us to throw away.

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    Get onside and start believing, Fox. We'll win today but spanner it against Wolves more likely.

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    First time I'm watching or listening to us all season. Also, Owen Hargreaves has three accents fighting at once.

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    Liverpool fans still pretending there is some kind of jeopardy. If you lose it from here the city should be nuked and Klopp hanged.

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    That Jordan Ayew goal was utter filth.

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    Best case scenario here is a 4-3 Newcastle win with Greenwood grabbing a hattrick.

    Or you know, a repeat of the previous match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Liverpool fans still pretending there is some kind of jeopardy. If you lose it from here the city should be nuked and Klopp hanged.
    Nah, I've noticed most the noise comes from rival fans as opposed to ours getting too giddy. Focus on each game as it comes then we'll be fine but the reaction to when we inevitably lose a league game is going to be telling. We've come too close to often to think its ours to lose, it's never boded well. It's hardly a pretence either as if you saw the Watford match you could literally feel the nerves in the stadium come across on TV.

    If we're still in this position by the end of January then yeah, probably have it tied up by March but we're Liverpool, we don't do things the easy way so the scepticism is fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Though being 13 points clear with a game in hand at this point even I'd see it as difficult for us to throw away.
    Fixed that for you.

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    Realistically it would need a spectacular injury crisis alongside Man City peeling off 10+ wins in a row. We can start the slide tonight. Liverpool third by March.

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    Weren’t city just 3 points better off last time Liverpool cocked it up?

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    Maybe if our results are bad enough for long enough, the weaker teams will start attacking us and then we can counter-attack them and win.


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    We were seven points clear going into the game against City who had a game in hand, they beat us cutting it down to 4, then they won their game in hand and our two draws against Leicester and Everton fucked it. That goal line clearance by Stones...FML.




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