I'll have hopefully 3 job offers doing very different things by the end of the week. Got one already. Getting out of this place it's a fucking joke.
p.s I lied about my basic and each offer is at least 10k more basic.
I'll have hopefully 3 job offers doing very different things by the end of the week. Got one already. Getting out of this place it's a fucking joke.
p.s I lied about my basic and each offer is at least 10k more basic.
Doesn't everybody do that?
I bloody hate referencing. What's the point in writing something if I've got to then go and quote some other bugger who once thought something vaguely similar? I just don't get it.
I'm a twit
Currently hiring for 4 roles at the moment and it's hell. I can see why people use recruiters now. I'm ready to throw in the towel and join them.
I’m starting some in a couple of weeks but it’s such a shit time to be doing it.
I'm looking for work lads. Happy to pretend I have whatever experience you're looking for.
Why's it so bad? Just tons of shit candidates?Originally Posted by SvN
After the last couple of broken sticks that the bossman hired I’m going to guess you’d be fine.
I'll give you an example. I posted one job on Friday and there's been 170 applications so far.
It's a hybrid role, so 2 days in the office. Clearly stated in the job type (which people can filter by on LinkedIn) and in bold letters at the beginning of the job description. Yet 70% of the candidates are overseas. And most of those in the UK are either the other side of the country and (too far to commute) or have zero qualifications or experience. One guy applied for a Senior Full Stack Developer role having worked on the checkouts at Sainsbury's for the last 12 years since leaving school. And has no reference to any technical skills in his CV or LinkedIn profile.
So I've got to manually review each of these cunts and dismiss any that aren't suitable. The remaining pool of viable candidates may contain 1 or 2 that are worth an interview. From 170.
Multiply the admin involved in that by four and you'll get an idea of why I'm nearly suicidal.
In your industry you must just get spammed with people in Bangalore and Karachi?
From my experience they aren't great readers of ads in that part of the world.
I've started my new job today. Totally different setup and vibe is the first impression plus feeling like it's going to be a hard challenge to figure out what I'm doing. Still, at least my manager isn't a knob (yet).
Could you not set up some sort of keyword screening at least to filter out people like the Sainsbury's guy?
And are you sure the ones on the other side of the country wouldn't be willing to relocate?
We just advertise as all hours on-site now, even if remote is possible in some roles, for that very reason. Telling people after the fact they can do a bit from home is never a deal breaker, and if they're a worthy candidate and you're an attractive employer then they'll probably apply anyway.
To be fair he's got 12 years' experience of developing full stacks (of Pringles etc).
I worked at Tesco for a bit about 10 years ago SVN. Last chance or I'm off to be Giggles Drivers Mate.
LinkedIn do try and autofilter out the retards, but it's very hit and miss. It actually filtered out the person we ended up hiring last time (I just happened to check out of interest) so I've turned it off now, because it's not reliable.
And the people that look good, but are in the UK are still getting a message about the commute. So far I've messaged 7 - 4 didn't reply, 2 of them said "they didn't realise it wasn't a remote position" and the 1 said they're moving to the area, and has an interview scheduled with us later this week.
But having to do that for every candidate just takes forever.
The devil works hard but the gammon trying to keep the brown man out of his company works harder.
My pal has created an AI platform that plumbs in to CV libraries and you can filter on keywords, job type, experience, but most importantly skills. Then it returns 'matches' based on your criteria and you can choose to view their CV and reach out to them.
It's pretty cool but I'm reticent to tell you what it is.
You can rest assured he already knows what it is.
Repurpose the BazBot to sack and employ people instead. You may end up 2000 employees in the red at times but you know it'll always come good.
I get emails every so often from people wanting to join my research team as PhD students. I work in a university that does not grant PhDs. Bastards follow up on their emails too, after I ignore them.
I am ***, a teaching and research professional, has been working as Research head in Engineering at Whilebooks LLP, Cochin, India. I am writing this email to explore an opportunity of working under your guidance as PhD research scholar for the next intake.
...
I consider it is a great honour for me to work under you in this university since your guidance, research experience, knowledge, professional approach is really quite resourceful for my research.
Please find my CV, Statement of purpose, Research proposal, and Education certificates for your perusal. Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to hearing from you about my candidacy.
He looks to be about 40 years old in his picture too.
Tries to curry favour, gets naan at all.
There are actually jobs going in my team at present but you need to be a rail nonce. We have had to readvertise as there were no suitable candidates out of the latest round of interviewees
We're also hiring but I don't like the idea of being back on the phones forever. Or negotiating with claimants to stop calling our HP's racial slurs.
I was on the way to saving my boss from a prison sentence for accounting fraud and he called me up saying ‘just saw you walking through town, walk of shame is it’
Was so close to just telling on him.
We've got the opposite issue to @SvN - advertised for a Geography teacher (mat cover). 1 applicant, and they pulled out the day before due to getting a permanent job elsewhere. So it's gone back out - thankfully not needed until October, but you do worry about what dregs you'll get around that time (mostly anyone half decent will have a gig by that point). The recruitment/retention crisis in teaching is rearing it's head.
I looked into teaching once and it's just nowhere near enough money for the amount of grief. Especially Senior School Teachers who must be clinically insane.
I could teach Junior School kids probably, but £25 grand a year? Lol.
The pay does get better as you get more experience - especially if you take on extra responsibilities (which typically results in less teaching, so win-win). My wife's on around £48k and she's one of a team of 5 that head up a year group.
Also big savings on childcare during school holidays
The Tory propaganda has finally toppled the Oxbridge Communist.
But lost on the “school holiday tax” on holidays abroad.
I'm a twit
Yeah and you move through the main pay scale quite quickly, you either have to be incompetent or at a toxic school to not progress every year. Plus they’re talking about bumping the starting salary to £30k now.
Apparently there are only 40 physics teachers training this year in the entire country (after all, if you have a physics degree, wtf would you go into teaching?) and assume 20 of those will drop out between now and 2027, paints a pretty bleak picture for our children’s futures. Schools will be chosen because they have an ‘actual’ physics teacher, as opposed to a PE teacher winging it.
Well there's the problem then. Anyone who is committed and intelligent enough to put themselves through a physics degree and qualify is not the type of person who'll be looking at £25k jobs.
Excuse my ignorance, but does a newly-qualified physics teacher have the same starting basic as a newly-qualified history teacher / whatever type is in least demand?
If so, that's insane.
The humanities profs here still bitch because they earn less than engineering/management profs. What else are they going to do?
Physics teachers earning the same as history teachers is obviously insane, but good luck having 'market-based' salaries on the public sector.
Isn't there a golden handshake type deal for certain High School subjects? Or you get a load of money whilst training or something? I can't remember exactly but I'm sure I remember there being *something*.
You do progress pretty quickly through the payscales as a teacher but it's not long until you hit the cap unless you want to go into being a head.
You also become stuck in a particular school because nobody wants to hire you once you become expensive.
Teaching is honestly brutal and there's a crisis coming. It's not the actual teaching that's the problem either, it's the fact the teaching unavoidably takes up 6-7 hours of your day but only constitutes about a third of the work load. They just bring in the new ones, burn through them for 5-6 years and they leave to be replaced by the next bunch.
Everyone starts on the same. The training is where the difference is - there’s no longer any financial incentive to train to teach history (I got £4k back in 2014), but Physics is at least £20k (might be 30 now).
This is where I’m at now. The only way out is a step up - luckily I’m not desperate to leave and can wait for the right opportunity, but many aren’t as fortunate.
Are they taking non-graduates as teachers now?
Not yet, but it's hard to see how we don't go down that path in the next 10-15 years, purely out of necessity.
Wouldn't it be better to do away with the teaching qualification bit rather than the graduate bit and/or doesn't the 'academy model' boil the role down to 'content provider' status where the teachers are essentially delivering scripted lessons [I have no view as to whether that is a good thing or not]. If you want to see an education system in proper collapse you should looks at ours in Guernsey, and I think we spend double per pupil that they do in the UK.
I would have become a teacher (modern languages or maybe English) if it made even any sense to do so. I looked into it quite seriously at one point. There just isn't anything about it that is going to drag the average person away from a likely better-paying, lower stress nine to five. Full respect to those who do, they must just love it.
A lot of them definitely do. My missus blew my mind the other day when she said no matter how much money she had - or won through a lottery win etc - would stop her from teaching because she’s not in it for the money. Weirdo, definitely gets it from her Maw.
The pay isn’t bad though. Well, for cost of living in Scotland anyway. £33k in 1st year and over £40k in year 5 (think that’s the cap). I’m sure that’ll go up when they start striking again. She’ll be a Deputy Head/higher up within 10 years anyway. Mon
There's a fun hypothetical: would you quit your job immediately if you won the lottery (as in enough to comfortably live on)? I'm not sure I would.
Without a doubt, and I enjoy my job a lot, I just enjoy not being at work a lot more.
The place would never see or hear from me again.
I wouldn't even tell them I was leaving.
I'd be off. As long as I don't piss it up the wall or die of boredom.
Why would you stay? I can understand perhaps wanting to work (in the loosest sense) but surely then you're not needing the cash, you could just go and do something you want like saving leopards or buying a football team.
I might stay on while I worked out what I wanted to do, but escaping wage slave status is basically the ultimate dream in a modern human society.
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