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    A Life on Our Planet

    Watched this and thought it was brilliant.

    Nothing new in there perhaps, but so succinctly and well put it deserves its own thread.

    So, are we going to sort our shit out or welcome in a new dawn of arse and wipe ourselves out in the decades to come?

    Also, if the earth did become uninhabitable for the most successful species ever (eh Ital?), what would survive as we perish? Dickie, while rightly admitting that nature would continue, didn't go into specifics.

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    Crocodiles have survived just about everything going, haven't they? My money's on them.

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    I watched this today actually. Its powerful (as was his BBC Extinction documentary a few weeks back) but I still can't help but watch it as anything but a prediction of our future. There's no way we make the changes required until it's too late. It's unbelievable how little attention climate change and our destruction of, well, pretty much everything, gets amongst the people that could do something about it.

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    They are awesome, so I'd be on that.

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    Oh, and Fungi. Fungi will inherit the world. They have after each of the earths previous mass-extinctions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I watched this today actually. Its powerful (as was his BBC Extinction documentary a few weeks back) but I still can't help but watch it as anything but a prediction of our future. There's no way we make the changes required until it's too late. It's unbelievable how little attention climate change and our destruction of, well, pretty much everything gets amongst the people that could do something about it.
    What hit me was that we started by killing things (this was the issue when I was a kid) and then not satisfied with that moved on to fucking up the environment. We're horrible creatures, don't deserve to survive and I don't think there's any chance we will if this is terminal without drastic action, which, as you say, we simply won't take. The structure of our society doesn't allow it.

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    It’ll be after my time.

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    On the other hand, we've done everything in the means of self-preservation. Saving the environment is in our own interests to do.

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    Single cell bacteria will continue to live and probably loads of things in the sea like coral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Single cell bacteria will continue to live and probably loads of things in the sea like coral.
    Coral is a fucking pussy'ole.

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    'The Earth' would largely be fine, a few less animals and complex ecosystems for a spell but it would come back in some form. All the benzene and plastic might take a while to break down but from a planetary perspective it's just moving molecules around a bit.

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    We're no more horrible than any other species, we're just exponentially more able to manipulate our environment to suit our ends than they are.

    We also have shortish lifespans which disincentivises keeping the planet ticking over. If someone works out how to live to a thousand years old, then things will get moving.

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    Earth is destined to forever be the battle ground between Trump and the Lizards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Coral is a fucking pussy'ole.
    Coral would batter funghi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Watched this and thought it was brilliant.

    Nothing new in there perhaps, but so succinctly and well put it deserves its own thread.

    So, are we going to sort our shit out or welcome in a new dawn of arse and wipe ourselves out in the decades to come?

    Also, if the earth did become uninhabitable for the most successful species ever (eh Ital?), what would survive as we perish? Dickie, while rightly admitting that nature would continue, didn't go into specifics.
    Are you going to become a vegan to help your mother earth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Coral would batter funghi.
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0628120432.htm

    Mate, your infected toenail is more of a don than you will ever be.

    Your uninfected toenails would also make you look a right cunt but this is no time for unnecessary insults.

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    Not for shit. I will stay part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0628120432.htm

    Mate, your infected toenail is more of a don than you will ever be.

    Your uninfected toenails would also make you look a right cunt but this is no time for unnecessary insults.

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    You make me sound like the shittest Ric Flair

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    We'll be fine. We'll either comprehensively don it with technology, or, much more likely, the rich countries will just insulate themselves and watch billions of suckers die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    You make me sound like the shittest Ric Flair
    Then I have spectacular underdone my insult and I apologise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    You make me sound like the shittest Ric Flair
    Present day Ric Flair is pretty shit.

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    There is a fundamental requirement to move away from carbon intensive production and rapidly before we completely destroy eco systems. We've already got extreme weather events, rising waters and mass extension of species and higher temperatures. It will need organisations to transition and be able to transition rapidly so from a financial services perspective, the right type of products need to be in place to allow companies to do it (and incentivise accordingly). The EU are trying to be bold with their Green Deal and China in recent times have talked about reducing their carbon footprint by 2030 (and neutral by 2060) but their actions don't marry up.

    Technology is not the silver bullet to save the world. Collapsing eco-systems, food sources and habitable land will mean mass starvation and migration which will cause war and a probable collapse to the precious economy. It's definitely possible to adjust the way we live, the obsession with consumption is only relatively modern so we can easily change behaviour. It just needs people to realise it is for the benefit of them and their children.

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    And net zero isn't really what we need. It's creative accounting.

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    It's mad that we're still digging stuff up and burning it for power, we should have fucked off the fossil fuel industry decades ago and gone Nuclear.

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    The problem as I see it with reducing consumption is that our entire economy is built upon people being greedy, "I want it now" bastards. People have also got very rich off the back of that and how do you stop that? McDonalds, for example (and I'd love to know what % of worldwide animal weight they're responsible for) are not just going to cut their cloth accordingly and decimate profit as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    It's mad that we're still digging stuff up and burning it for power, we should have fucked off the fossil fuel industry decades ago and gone Nuclear.
    What actually stopped us? I get there were some notable disasters, but they came later, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    It's mad that we're still digging stuff up and burning it for power, we should have fucked off the fossil fuel industry decades ago and gone Nuclear.
    To this end, there's a great documentary from early 00's about the fact that electric cars should have been ubiquitous by now, having first appeared in the mid 1800's, and something like 40% of US road vehicles were electric by WW1.

    EDIT: Who Killed the Electric Car?
    Last edited by John Arne; 08-10-2020 at 08:56 AM.

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    Unfortunetly Labor and the Coalition are still for sale down here so Australia will still be mining even when the world has moved on.

    Hopefully the Greens pick up the balance of power in QLD and try to slow it all down. State Election is the 31st and there is a real chance the Greens will win 3-7 seats forcing Labor to the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    The problem as I see it with reducing consumption is that our entire economy is built upon people being greedy, "I want it now" bastards. People have also got very rich off the back of that and how do you stop that? McDonalds, for example (and I'd love to know what % of worldwide animal weight they're responsible for) are not just going to cut their cloth accordingly and decimate profit as a result.
    But mass consumption is only a thing really since the 60s so it's not an innate behaviour that we want everything now. Consumerism and growth is just a modern fad that apparently makes for a better place but it can easily be changed if we change the way we measure our economy and what we find valuable.

    It's extremely possible for us to not cut down rain forests for soy farms and there's a strong argument to be made that sustainable jobs are more profitable for the economy than rebuilding every few years because a hurricane destroys your infrasructure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    What actually stopped us? I get there were some notable disasters, but they came later, right?
    I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it really does seem like it was big corporations (GM & the Oil industry) through lobbying - certainly in the case of electric vehicles. /Icke

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    Surely with regards to electric vehicles the problem was the same then as it is now. Batteries and distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it really does seem like it was big corporations (GM & the Oil industry) through lobbying - certainly in the case of electric vehicles. /Icke
    If that is the case, it's fuel to my argument that these bodies are so powerful they simply won't let it happen, which goes for anything against their interest.

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    In short it was scaremongering (or lobbying), general inertia, and the relative expense of rebuilding most of your power stations.

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    Nuclear is expensive to get going and expensive to clean up (not unsafe, just expensive because you have to protect the waste forever), but that is in large part down to choosing to have a few massive plants rather than smaller ones all over, which is down to people being absolute mongs about it and not wanting to live near one. There is a wheeze at the minute to look at setting up loads of little ones. You could power a small city on a couple of submarine-style reactors, and they are obviously safe and reliable.

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    A rare case of the French having the right approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    We'll be fine. We'll either comprehensively don it with technology, or, much more likely, the rich countries will just insulate themselves and watch billions of suckers die.
    I would say the first one is much more likely, at least for the next 3-5 generations. Hard to predict much further than that.

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    To team "we should be less greedy," when should we have stopped from being so greedy? A few figures to help you out:




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    We should stop right after 'Daws' has been everywhere he wants to visit.

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    Yeah should be over at your mums house soon so we can close up after that.

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    *mothers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    We should stop right after 'Daws' has been everywhere he wants to visit.
    Or pretend to be from at least.

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    As a mate, Kiko, the Portuguese stuff is ridiculous. It happened to my mate's dad when he remarried, so I know how the brainwashing works and I feel for you. Just know it's not too late to move in with manc sean and end this hell.

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    At least he's not completely John Arne'd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    As a mate, Kiko, the Portuguese stuff is ridiculous. It happened to my mate's dad when he remarried, so I know how the brainwashing works and I feel for you. Just know it's not too late to move in with manc sean and end this hell.
    I'm alright with it - summer holidays in Portugal aren't too bad. The foods quality as well.

    Still the outside chance I'll get a Portuguese passport as well.

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    A sweaty passport surely? From our brief meeting wherever that nightclub was I remember her being more William Wallace than cabral. Psychologically at least.

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    Happy birthday Sean.

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    That’s a bit sad really.

    Wonder how long it took him to remember his password after you harassed him on here? Must have stung.

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    Don't really understand any of your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Don't really understand any of your post.
    To be honest, I don’t expect you would.

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