It doesn't interfere with YouTube highlights or Twitter clips, so nobody running the game will give a toss about changing things.Originally Posted by Yevrah
It doesn't interfere with YouTube highlights or Twitter clips, so nobody running the game will give a toss about changing things.
Indeed, and all because of pissing and moaning after a MAJOR ERROR that one time. At least NFL has breaks to make it work somewhat, but I still think it is weird that some things are reviewable and some aren't. Same as it was in rugby when forward passes were never considered.
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Oh it's absolutely here to stay, Pandora's Box has been well and truly opened.
I do wish VAR was introduced more gradually. Have it just deal with offsides whilst they streamline the err.... process. Unfortunately, once you have the technology, they'll want to double-check everything.
Fuck Villa.
WE ARE BACK.
4 more years!
In fairness, this is a classic Villa at OT tale as old as time stuff. Fucking Macheda.
That was a really good finish.
Is that his first league goal?
Maybe Erik just needs to play the youngsters.
Yep.
Had gone just over 1000 minutes without one.
Villa, like Chelsea, have played precisely into the one thing United can actually do. Even if it took them 73 offsides to it right.
So cheers lads, I guess.
Cord 👀
Yeah, villa have played a high line which is the one thing we have some tools against.
Aye that Salah one would have been chalked off because he’s the player who has benefited from it. Which would have been even funnier if it has gone in and been disallowed but then look at the logic as to why that penalty wasn’t given at the weekend.
The offside one is weird in some ways because you could clearly see the keeper going the other way before Elliot hit the ball and thus was never getting anywhere near it but yet on a subjective call the referee calls it offside? Bizarre.
Look at the screen = change your decision/do what the eye in the sky says.
Tierney also a dreadful ref so good to get away with 3 points.
Another thing I don't get is that if any outfield player makes the challenge on Rashford that Martinez did then they probably get sent off for being wildly out of control, regardless of getting the ball first. Keepers still seem free to maim at will as long as they get even a glancing touch on the ball.
Can we all agree that Endo is the signing of the season?
I'm a twit
Forest Law isnt good enough for a team like Liverpool
Agree with you on that last paragraph. I thought the same, I'm ok generally with those tackles being allowed but it seems like it's only allowed by the goalie.
Which is sort of ironic as the goalie is invariably the biggest/heaviest player on the pitch and so probably the most dangerous person to be getting carte blanche.
Unai Simon casually smashing Robertson to bits earlier in the season another example.
Just seen Leno's push on the ball boy.
Completely missed that club world cup thing until a lad on Sky referenced it just there now.
Mitoma out for 6 weeks, Adingra out for 4.
Guess that taking them out of Afcon (is Adingra in the Ivory Coast squad) and the Asian Cup a small solace as they were going to be unavailable anyway.
Christ knows who plays tomorrow though.
Crystal Palace are the only team in the league who let Chelsea walkover them so will be interesting to see how Pochettino gives them their first win in nearly 2 months
Get an AFCON thread going @Jimmy Floyd.
Taz cried a full ocean's worth of tears about Afcon discussion during the last one and I don't think we even had a separate thread, its own thread would send him over the edge.
Hard to look past the trio of Senegal, Morocco and Egypt for potential winners. Nigeria are not as good as they are on paper, and Chris Hughton's Ghana are tragic.
The goal robot is still not repaired it seems. It sounds similar to what Curtis Jones was suffering with, but that took him a good half a year to properly shake off.
The most brain dread manager in the league by far. These subs and tactic changes are mental
No dark horse of the tournament?
Probably just about safe from relegation now. Probably much needed with Luton being on Saturday
Would say GNB but their draw isn't great.
AC and AFCON running concurrently this time. Neither can warrant much interest until about semis.
AFCON pisses all over the AC.
I'll be watching as much as I can of the AFCON.
Bro, please, you've probably watched less than 2 hours of AC in your entire life. AFCON has better atmosphere and off the field drama, the rest AC is clear.
I’ve only seen Obama’s as a screenshot. But you are telling me that’s a pen but Odergaard isn’t?
Iraq underdog run in 2007 was the only interesting thing that's happened in the Asian Cup. My one hope for it is that at some point Korea or Japan will assemble enough talent at the same time to sweep all before them and put in a statement performance, but there are so many nightmare Arab antics you have to fight your way past that it's a very difficult tournament to actually play well in. This one will be even worse as they are all fired up about Palestine.
Likely qfs:
Japan v UAE
Saudi v Aus
Iran v Korea
Qatar v Uzbek/Thailand
Based on that would guess Iran v Japan or Iran v Saudi final. Don't know if they had a transparent draw, but it's worked out extremely favourably for the hosts Qatar.
Asian Cup is pretty bad, it's all about the U23 Asian Cup.
Also, Leno is very lucky to get away with what he did. Granted, it was a very gentle push, but you really can't be putting your hands on young boys like that.
Yeah you should boot them like Eden Hazard.
I think the Odegaard one was just wrong and you have to move away from it being in anyway representative of the rule, despite PGMOL's bullshit to try to justify the decision.
Really what happened is the VAR got so bound up in natural position and all the other technical rulings that blight the field they've failed to step back and see he clearly scooped the ball away from an opponent with his hand, in a similar way to someone getting away with a cracking diving save maybe against Chelsea a while back where the need to consider natural arm position as one falls to the ground overrode the fact that the defender had made a belting save any keeper would have been proud of.
Onana's is always going to be given under the modern interpretation. Not least as it looked worse in real time, ie his arm looked very up and away from his body aven though it hit him in the armpit.
Thought the Chelsea one was dodgier having not been given but I can see why it was.
The real problem is the penalty rule is so arbitrary and punitive, and the VAR system only exacerbates the strange delineation of fouls 4 inches apart having super different outcomes. I don't think the original rule needs changing though.
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Penalty rule is one of the things (along with offside) that drives football being good. Make it any more favourable to defenders and they will get up to all kinds of cynical shit to stop attacks and prevent goals. The way it stands, if you have an attacker steaming in within 18 yards of goal the rules demand you do something quite skilful to stop them.
And are the areas that VAR has been most aimed at.
You could argue that the modern game has flipped the penalty situation with attackers getting up to all kinds of cynical shit to win penalties.
I started waving my Iran flag at Brentford's game during their warm-up yesterday. Immediately a few stewards started phoning it in in a panic to ask David Baddiel if it was permitted. The response must have come back negative because after a couple mins, one young one comes and politely comes across to ask if I can put it away, just as I agree an older lady comes and requests I give it to her and collect it at the end. I ask what is the rule as there's so many flags allowed around the stadium, she states this is because of 'the conflict', that it's not Brentford but an EPL directive and that only flags affiliated with Brentford are allowed. A lot of bullshit, made even better by the fact there was as many Iranians as Englishmen in their XI. Lolled at it all with another Muzzy steward and we agreed that their time will come.
Dunphy tried to get them here at one time too. Though I'd suspect Blair might have had better pull.
https://www.the42.ie/the-dublin-dons-5365181-Feb2021/
That's legitimately fucked up.
That's happening everywhere, clubs getting fined for it and all.
Has anyone in authority actually stopped to think about what we've done here? It's madness.
It's known as tying yourself in knots. They should just allow all the Israel and Palestine flags.
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