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    other than mass vaccination programmes across the developing world, the WHO have been hopeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    China having demonstrated "a particularly good response to dealing with the virus" is going to keep me in lols for weeks.

    To still be maintaining that at this stage when it's manifestly clear that they started the fucking thing, lied about it, tried to cover it up and then silenced any brave whistleblowers, is unreal.
    In fairness they covered this up for less than a quarter of the time they did with SARS. Progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I have never paid much attention to them, but they always seem to do quite well with Ebola and other outbreaks. Weren't they also quite important for HIV awareness @phonics?

    I don't know... I just had them pegged as being quite good before this shit.
    They’re good at things that they’ve been doing for ages. They’re shit at adapting to new situations. They’re incredibly slow to decide anything (see the whole mask thing) to the point they’re still anti-vaping etc.

    The whole thing is a giant bureaucracy at this point so they’re good at distribution of vaccines etc., logistical stuff but not the rest of it.

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    The problem is that ninety-nine per cent of the time there isn't a pandemic on, so you get a load of whammers in a room with nothing to do and they end up defining their mission as complaining about the lack of effective tobacco control in Syria. Then when the actual public health crisis does come you find out far too late that you've been spending billions on a jumped-up bunch of nonces recruited for their lobbying and bullshitting capabilities.

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    That’ll go down well...



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    Half the country not accepting cash is fucking nuts.

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    That can't be good.

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    If the exert in the tweet is anything to go by, then the study doesn't say what the headline claims it does.

    An increased amount of virus in the nasopharynx might logically feel like it would increase transmission but that doesn't necessarily mean it actually does.
    Last edited by randomlegend; 04-08-2020 at 05:56 PM.

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    Keeping outdoor events at 200 is a pain in the hole. No chance of going to any matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    If the exert in the tweet is anything to go by, then the study doesn't say what the headline claims it does.

    An increased amount of virus in the nasopharynx might logically feel like it would increase transmission but that doesn't necessarily mean it actually does.
    I think this is the study:
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2768952

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Yeah it basically says:

    Under 5s have a lot of viral nucleic acid in their nasopharynx, which might mean they have a lot of transmissible virus in their nasopharynx which might mean they are important transmitters. Under 5s is barely touching the school age bracket as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Yeah it basically says:

    Under 5s have a lot of viral nucleic acid in their nasopharynx, which might mean they have a lot of transmissible virus in their nasopharynx which might mean they are important transmitters. Under 5s is barely touching the school age bracket as well.
    Fair enough.

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    lol at getting medical advice off the transfer dweeb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Yeah it basically says:

    Under 5s have a lot of viral nucleic acid in their nasopharynx, which might mean they have a lot of transmissible virus in their nasopharynx which might mean they are important transmitters. Under 5s is barely touching the school age bracket as well.
    You're very impressive.

    At what stage can these so called studies give a more definitive prognosis.

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    I don't think I've said anything that warrants being taken the piss out of by Quincy but I also can't imagine anyone ever calling someone 'impressive' seriously.

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    Bold of you to be throwing out s without dealing with that devastation Spikey dealt you

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    He did deal with. He's been crying for hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    I don't think I've said anything that warrants being taken the piss out of by Quincy but I also can't imagine anyone ever calling someone 'impressive' seriously.
    It was a compliment.

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    We are going backwards.

    ⛔ QUEENSLAND BORDERS CLOSING AGAIN ⛔

    #BREAKING: Queensland borders will CLOSE to NSW and the ACT from 1am this Saturday, Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk just announced.

    "The Premier has said all visitors will be denied entry unless they have an exemption, and returning Queenslanders will be required to quarantine for 14 days in a hotel, at their own expense."


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    Woke up feeling like shit. RIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Woke up feeling like shit. RIP
    How is your little one doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    How is your little one doing?
    Mostly sleeping when not exploding out of one end or another.

    I look forward to it...

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    There’s going to be some carnage when the schools reopen.

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    I honestly can't see how it's meant to work. They're germ factories at the best of times and the symptoms are so generic to start with.

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    The thought of all the older champagne socialist parents dying after their long haired freakishly clever children give them it.

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    The thought of you losing out on your day because the ex's household all has it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Mostly sleeping when not exploding out of one end or another.

    I look forward to it...
    Poor little thing. Never nice when the kids are like that. And you also feel like shit as you're looking after them 24/7.

    But hopefully 'just' a gastro bug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I honestly can't see how it's meant to work. They're germ factories at the best of times and the symptoms are so generic to start with.
    Works fine here. They never shut them, and as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to have had any larger effect on the spread of the virus. But then again who knows, cause also it's possible between up to 40% of the people in Stockholm have had it now, they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Works fine here. They never shut them, and as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to have had any larger effect on the spread of the virus. But then again who knows, cause also it's possible between up to 40% of the people in Stockholm have had it now, they say.
    I mean the constant isolation and testing it will need. Kids always have a cough.

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    Aberdeen back in lockdown

    Apparently a French oil worker went to a pub whilst awaiting a test and it’s stemmed from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    The thought of you losing out on your day because the ex's household all has it.
    Won't stop me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Aberdeen back in lockdown

    Apparently a French oil worker went to a pub whilst awaiting a test and it’s stemmed from there
    Lol everywhere I am going seems to be getting locked down.

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    I bailed out of there as soon as she started announcing it.

    The highlands is pure.

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    I'll start shitting myself it tears through the Borders.

    EDIT: So the BBC ticker the other day mentioned we'd tested 2.6m people in the last 8 weeks. That equates to 46,428 people a day, on average. Means the positive rate is around 2% at the moment.
    Last edited by Shindig; 06-08-2020 at 08:04 AM.

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    It takes 1 hour and 45 minutes to cross the NSW/QLD border...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    I'll start shitting myself it tears through the Borders.

    EDIT: So the BBC ticker the other day mentioned we'd tested 2.6m people in the last 8 weeks. That equates to 46,428 people a day, on average. Means the positive rate is around 2% at the moment.
    Of people that are getting tested that think they've got it... hardly anything to worry. Could even be duplicated tests, same person etc. Bullshit.

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    I never thought I'd long for Shinners to go back to his work story posts but here we are.

    https://www.ft.com/content/cb56dd74-...c-0680435ad3bf

    Hope it all burns down, if only because of pure jealousy.

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    Rubbish link

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    Ah balls. FT article on "could coronavirus spell the end for trendy East London?"

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    Thank you

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    Antonia Cundy YESTERDAY

    Last weekend, streets in some of the fashionable parts of east London seemed as busy as ever. But back in March, when the UK went into lockdown to combat the
    spread of coronavirus, locals say there was something of an exodus.

    “Everyone who lives here and goes on about how great it is, as soon as it locked down and as soon as they could, they got out,” says Hannah, while queueing for
    falafel on Broadway Market, a street just south of London Fields in Hackney.

    Hannah, who did not want to give her last name, was among them. She decamped from her flat in Whitechapel to go and stay with her boyfriend Alex in Bristol,
    where there was more space to work from home and Clifton Down’s vast greenery on the doorstep. Now she is back in London, with Alex in tow. “If people could get
    back to their parents’ house, they did,” he says.

    At the peak of the outbreak, demand for properties in Hackney dwindled. During the first 10 weeks of lockdown, searches on Zoopla for homes in the suburbs
    increased sharply, while Hackney Wick, Haggerston and Hoxton were all among the 10 least-searched-for locations in London.

    Local rents have also slumped. New data from Hamptons International shows that across Hackney, the average rental price is now Ł1,740 a month, nearly 10 per cent
    lower than what it was last year.

    Hamptons says this is due to renters leaving when the pandemic hit, and to a flood of properties that would normally be let through holiday rental sites such as Airbnb
    going on to the long-term rental market when lockdown brought tourism to a sudden halt.

    So what does the future hold for Hackney’s gentrified neighbourhoods? Will normality return as restrictions ease — or will the pandemic spell the end for
    trendy east London?

    Unrecognisable places, unrecognisable prices
    Haema Sundram, a family lawyer who lives on the border of Clapton and Stoke Newington in north-east Hackney, first bought a property in the borough in the
    1990s. She has bought and sold a few times since and, she says, the change in the market has been striking.

    “It was sort of a no-go area 30 years ago, but now it’s lots of media types and their families that tend to live here.”

    Wedged between two parks and close to Stoke Newington’s villagey Church Street — an area it is hard to picture as once being “no-go” — a neat Victorian fourbedroom family home is on sale with Hunters for Ł1.17m.

    The price tag reflects how much demand has leapt in recent years: at Ł1,092 per square foot, it is more expensive than a similar home in the long-established,
    affluent south-west suburb of Putney. There, buyers could also live close to a common and quaint high street, but for Ł780 per square foot. According to
    Hamptons International, average house prices in Hackney have risen by 97 per cent in the past decade.

    The area’s popularity has also been fuelled by young professionals, many of whom work in the technology sector that has clustered since 2008 around Old Street
    roundabout — also known as east London Tech City or Silicon Roundabout.

    Just north-east of there, towards Hoxton Overground Station, a two-bedroom penthouse with double-height ceilings and exposed steel supports is on sale
    through The Modern House for Ł1.3m.

    As the offices sprang up, others followed: in 2018, Hackney had 55 per cent more businesses than it did in 2014, according to official statistics. In the five years up to
    2017, nearly 250 cafés and restaurants opened in Shoreditch, in the southern tip of the borough next to the City of London.

    A quieter future?
    While workers still avoid the office and social-distancing guidelines limit the number of customers, many of the cafés, restaurants and bars that have become
    one of Hackney’s main selling points are under threat. Hackney’s club and performance venues, meanwhile, still do not know when they might reopen.

    “We really needed to open when we did,” says Anne, who works at a café near London Fields. “We’ve been busy since it’s opened but it’s really weather
    dependent.”

    If the night-time economy were to shrink, it would not have much effect on demand, says Tommaso Gabrieli, a professor in real estate at University College
    London. “Even if the next two years are described as a very negative scenario, I’m pretty sure that there will be other renters and buyers interested in that area,” he
    says.

    But where the interest comes from might change.

    Hackney’s population is already predicted to become proportionately older by 2050, partly because of its increasing expense. That, coupled with the fact that
    young people are likely to be disproportionately affected by the economic fallout of the crisis at the end of the furlough scheme in October, means Hackney’s afterhours scene could become quieter, attracting an older crowd to the neighbourhood.

    “It may not be the young start-up person, it could be a banker,” says Gabrieli. “It wouldn’t be the story of a collapse of those areas but a story maybe of change in the
    type of buyer or renter.”

    Youthful resilience
    For now, the liveliest areas in the borough will be pinning their hopes on the young population wanting to restart their social lives in bars and restaurants. If Broadway
    Market last Saturday is anything to go by, the desire is there.

    “Hackney Wick last [Friday] was chaos, it was absolutely mobbed,” says Alex of the buzzy but less-developed area near the site of the 2012 London Olympics, where
    there are numerous canal-side bars.

    There, in a modern high-rise development overlooking the water, a two-bedroom unfurnished flat is being let for Ł1,733 a month through Hurford Salvi Carr. Across
    the canal, a four-storey Victorian house with a home cinema and Koi carp pond overlooking Victoria Park — an 86-hectare space bordering the boroughs of
    Hackney and Tower Hamlets — can be rented through Dexters for Ł5,499 a month.

    As people like Hannah and Alex flock back to the Hackney heartlands, the areas are back on homebuyers’ minds as well. The number of searches on Zoopla for
    Haggerston, London Fields and Dalston has been more than 30 per cent higher in the past 10 weeks compared with the 10 weeks before lockdown. Searches for Stoke
    Newington and Hackney in general have risen by about 50 per cent.

    And for some young people, certain hotspots in Hackney never lost their appeal. While Hannah says the pain of lockdown was evident in Whitechapel, which was
    quiet throughout the period, and Sundram describes Stoke Newington as having been “ghostly”, Kieran, a graphic designer who has lived in the area for seven years, says
    that in Broadway Market he noticed little change.

    “This street was pretty much the same, it was always rammed,” he says. “A lot of the places did takeaway as soon as you could get takeaway beers.” At the top of the
    road in London Fields, multiple illegal raves took place until alcohol was banned temporarily at the beginning of July.

    “People don’t care around here, they were just thinking it was the holidays,” says Ali Asad, who works at Bradbury’s Ironmongers, a small hardware store on
    Broadway Market. “It was crazy. I think there was no lockdown, that’s what I say.”
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    Hmmm that wasnt for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I mean the constant isolation and testing it will need. Kids always have a cough.
    Hmm well they don't test kids here really. The idea being that they aren't very contagious (no idea if that's true or not). But pre-schools and schools do have strict routines about staying home even with the smallest symptoms, which s a pain for the parents mostly (have some friends who have had to stay home for weeks with the kids during spring, but I mean most people are home during the days working from home anyway).

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    Are Sweden still lolling this off?

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    and 503k total cases in the state.

    i'm gonna be real i think it's only a matter of time tbh. maybe United will win the Europa league or some shit before i go tho.


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    You'll have herd immunity, fuck all cases and be celebrating majestic displaced mortality figures about 6 months before the erratic useless cunts elsewhere. Drink it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Of people that are getting tested that think they've got it... hardly anything to worry. Could even be duplicated tests, same person etc. Bullshit.
    Oh, aye. We're testing more in general and in the local hotspots as well. It was more figuring out just how many people we usually test which is a thing twitter cried about whenever DHSC put the figures out.

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    Everything is on the up here again and we still have a load of cunts moaning about the pub not being open.

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    Preston lockdown but I'm in South Ribble, lording it over those plebs.

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