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    TOCA was such a good game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    I never watched all that DTM stuff but one of my first racing games I played on the PS1 involved cards with lots of logos. I have never watched a real race though from start to finish.

    Looking back at it, it has now evolved to Grid which ive never liked.

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    Yeah, if you want a proper sim from Codemasters, you've got Dirt Rally and that's it. They now own Project Cars 3 which appears to have abolished pitstops.

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    Mugello and Sochi confirmed for September.

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    Pretty sure the GTR lads also made a touring car game at some point. Not sure if I ever tried it.

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    RACE. And RACE 07. And the Xbox 360 only RACE PRO. I bloody loved that one. Race Room counts as well, I guess. They did some Swedish Touring Car game as well. Simbin used to be so good.

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    While we're on a nostalgia trip, how about some of the mad Group 5 cars.

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    Those games were great. Just smashing your way into the other cars using them as a cushion as you accelerate through corners.

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    I always found rally games to be the only ones in the driving genre that were any good, even though rally is shittest of the lot in real life.

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    Loved playing TOCA2 when I was a kid then it went to shit.

    I think the last racing game I've played was F12019 iirc.

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    Driving Games ranked:

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    1. Burnout Paradise
    2. Grand Prix Legends
    3. Gran Turismo 4

    I should get into Trackmania, though. It's dumb in all the right ways.

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    If I did top three, it would probably be GT Legends, rFactor, iRacing. I agree that Simbin was great.

    EDIT: Dirt Rally is also really good, as was Richard Burns Rally.

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    Shit, Burnout Paradise still unsurpassed? It was quality, mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Shit, Burnout Paradise still unsurpassed? It was quality, mind.
    Yeah they brought out a 4K version but it’s broken as shit.

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    It gives me a ChaseHQ I can actually go back to.

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    I was amazing at Gran Turismo three and four, to the point where I could probably make money these days streaming myself screeching over them.

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    I still to this day want a Subaru Impreza 2003 with the below paint job because of a stint playing one of the McRaes


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    I have Project Cars 2 and if you take out the rubbish AI and just drive on your own, it's a thing of incredible beauty. Things like Old Spa in a Lotus of the era, or endurance stints with the light changing, are gorgeous.

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    Back when I used to have more free time and a wheel I was in an F1 game league.

    It was great fun at times. Though the rising popularity of capture cards meant people could record every session so you couldn't escape a bloody stewards enquiry afterwards sometimes.

    There's certain limitations the AI has, no matter how high you turn them up. But you trade that for some human stupidity. Though the fact that you go through the trouble of finding the places that host the leagues out and inevitably get into your placement races does somewhat reduce the chances of a bell end not braking at turn 1.

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    It's nearly always under braking when you see the AI's shortcomings. That and wet weather. I'll say this about F1 2020, I'm finding it real easy to control without ABS and TCS. Turn 2 in Austria used to be spin city for me but the rear seems more planted.

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    I haven't done AI in forever. Back in the rFactor days I was in a pretty legit league with even a few pros or soon to be pros, before pros doing simulators was really a thing. It was a lot of fun but it required a huge time commitment for practice, which I had at that time but couldn't do now. iRacing definitely provides the best "casual" racing, although I mostly hotlap these days, since I rarely get enough time to do proper races.

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    Interesting day today, let's see who can run on the curbs again and if Ferrari decide to keep lying about how much drag is on their car (and all the other cars that use their engine).

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    If they're telling the truth then they should lap the field at the Hungaroring next up. Somehow I suspect they'll still be 8th.

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    Looks like their upgrades are actually downgrades.

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    Apparently season ending in Bahrain for October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Looks like their upgrades are actually downgrades.
    Odd that a new floor and front wing didn't add the required horsepower.

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    Maybe they're trying to hide fuel in the front wing. Worth a go.

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    Did you guys ever read up on the fuel injection thing that Ferrari did last year. Absolutely incredible feat of engineering. The internal camera was taking pictures every hundreth of a second and they were injecting fuel inbetween those camera shots. Like the old warplanes that shot bullets inbetween propellers.

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    Yes I think it's come up once or twice.

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    Actually, the FIA/Ferrari deal now looks more and more like a top troll from whoever does Jean Todts job when he's off painting zebra crossings or whatever. They must have known it was going to royally fuck them over for the next two seasons.

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    Why would need to be done between camera shots?

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    So the footage looked like they weren't injecting extra fuel. In the rules, the tank you get is the tank you use. You can't sneak extra fuel in.

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    Ah right, so had they a hidden tank? Any decent reading on it all?

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    The fuel flow sensor isn't really a camera, I think it uses ultrasound to measure flow rate but only at certain intervals. So if you pulse your fuel at the right frequency you get more fuel into the engine without tripping the sensor. It's an evolution of old ideas like flexible fuel lines to create reservoirs that you can use to increase power or simply mileage. Modern engines also use fuel as a coolant which is part of the issue Ferrari are having since they were caught. They can't run the engine at high power for very long because it was designed to work with illegal levels of fuel in it.

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    Where were they putting the fuel and getting if from though? You’d imagine that job 1 would be that it’s measured for all teams.

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    Back in the day it was as simple as running the fuel line around the inside of the car several times to increase capacity, later teams would use flexible hoses that expand under pressure to hold more fuel. Current regs mandate the rate that fuel is allowed to flow into the engine, the Ferrari system wouldn't necessarily use more fuel overall it just let them use more than they should at certain points, under acceleration for example. They did that either by pulsing the fuel to trick the sensor or creating areas in the engine where it could pool to be used when the engine needed it most (as well as for cooling bits of the engine etc).

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    FE suspended their race because the track is absolutely drenched. Can't wait for quali

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Where were they putting the fuel and getting if from though? You’d imagine that job 1 would be that it’s measured for all teams.
    Cars have a limit of 105kg, but most F1 cars don't fill to the max (except at Singapore), so Ferrari were legally able to put more fuel in (up to 105) - without going over the limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post
    FE suspended their race because the track is absolutely drenched. Can't wait for quali
    FIA will bottle it and cancel.

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    Styrian was throwing me off. I wasn't sure where the GP was being held but its a second weekend in Austria

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    FIA will bottle it and cancel.
    To be fair, some of the F3 drivers were spinning off on straights so it probably is unsafe.

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    Are full wets still crap or are the cars just too big and heavy to run in the wet conditions these days?

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    It's barely raining, get out there you fannies. Thunder/lightning is the only thing that should delay the sessions at this point.

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    The Styrian GP should implement Bernies best/worst idea and just have the same track with a hosepipe Spraying ‘rain’ on the track.

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    Was Germany last year worse? It's not exactly a monsoon so I'm not sure why they're being so cautious.

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    It will be the medical helicopter, they're in the arse end of Heidi-land so the nearest hospital will be too far away to run sessions without it being deemed safe for the helicopter to fly.

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    Shame for Latifi there. He had to back off on consecutive laps right at the end. Two Williams in Q2 would have been lovely.

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    Still, it least the rain brings Ferrari back into contention.


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    That Q3 session was quality.

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