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    Everyone is lying about their numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    How have Japan, a proper country, with fewer than 10,000 recorded cases and 200 deaths ended up in that position?
    Arrogance seems to be the short answer.

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    I bet the Japanese health system folded like one of their paper houses the minute somebody somewhere was expected to improvise and make a decision nominally above their grade.

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    Ah, they took the Swedish approach. Clever.

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    We seem to be sorted apparently.

    The media shouldn’t be allowed put out stories like this as it just makes people relax and break rules.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/...virus-ireland/

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    A lot of countries do seem to be getting to the "what do we do next" phase.

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    The press are turning on Bojo. You love to see it. They’re reporting he missed 5 Cobra meetings for ‘personal reasons’.

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    Were those personal reasons 'nearly dying'?

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    What the fuck is Cobra?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Were those personal reasons 'nearly dying'?
    Before it all kicked off. Says the first meeting he attended wasn’t until the start of March

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    I've not looked it up but COBRA is like an emergency meeting where all the various branches meet to discuss a joint plan.

    It's a long shot but I'm going to go with it being 'Co-Bra'nches of Government or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    What the fuck is Cobra?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabi...Briefing_Rooms

    Americanised bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    What the fuck is Cobra?
    Cabinet Office Briefing Room A. It's where they meet for all their emergency planning and shit and it's become known as 'COBRA'.

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    At least it’s (almost) an acronym and not like something from Austin Powers.

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    My reasoning for it being called Cobra is way better.

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    Semi-related, 'The Situation Room' is a fucking fantastic piece of branding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    My reasoning for it being called Cobra is way better.
    It is to be fair

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    The SAGE acronym is not any better either.

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    No prizes for guessing which PM pointlessly introduced COBRA in order to try and sound more cool, presidential and American.

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    I have no idea, but I assume that it's Blair based on your sneer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Anything that isn't a liberal democracy will have completely fictional numbers. Liberal democracies will have roughly representative numbers but far from exactly right.

    There's absolutely no reason to think any nation's approach to these statistics will be any different to their approach to any other statistics. It's long been known that Chinese GDP is just a big number they invent for the sake of it.
    I'd argue that the bodies will have to turn up somewhere at some point if there is mass manipulation. Social media is too prevalent for it not to out.

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    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...463v1.full.pdf

    A group studied antibody prevalence in a California county and found that it corresponded to a 50-85 times increased rate of Covid infection that the official numbers. If we take that high estimate as true and apply it to the UK what is that, 10 million infections? We’re also testing less than the US per million people so it could be an even higher figure for us.

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    California has less per capita tests than the UK, keep in mind.

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    They need to be LIBERATED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adramelch View Post
    California has less per capita tests than the UK, keep in mind.
    Ah okay, I didn't know that. I pulled the numbers for the UK out my arse, it's just interesting to see how far off confirmed cases and true cases are.

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    Given the focus of the cases on large cities, following this study I wouldn't be surprised if say 25-30% of the population of London, Paris, New York etc have gotten infected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    No prizes for guessing which PM pointlessly introduced COBRA in order to try and sound more cool, presidential and American.
    The biggest fan of American ideology was Thatcher, so her?

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    He’ll be going full Lewis chimp out mode with that comment.

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    That was more Austrian than American. Tony Blair wishes he was American, the televangelist freak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellberg View Post
    The biggest fan of American ideology was Thatcher, so her?
    American economy, her. American political culture, big Tone. His whole team grew up on or watching the Clinton '92 campaign and fell dizzily in love with it.

    Before they were all trying to be in The Thick of It, they were all trying to be in The West Wing.
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    Fuck Blair. Thatcher's knickers were positively soaking at the thought of being more American and you both know it. She'd have been calling COBRA meetings every other day, the slag.

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    I think you misunderstand her very much. Can be forgiven as these days she is just popularly used as a convenient Hitler-devil figure for lazy lefties rather than the nuanced historical leader she (and Blair, and all the others) was.

    You have to remember in those days the Cold War was on and the Americans were the good guys. It's not like when we grew up and they spent enough time in sole command for the backlash to develop. But good old Tony stuck with his stars and stripes boys in 2003, to much popular acclaim, and the rest is history.

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    The local Coronavirus group has had quite a lot of photos/videos dobbing people in. Somebody that got caught in a video thought it would be a good idea to inbox the uploader with:


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    The Americans have never been the good guys in their entire history.

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    Just reading the Sunday Times article (here)and it's a horror show alright, gonna join Waff in using it as wanking material for the next week because there's a lot to at but the most damning bit of it all and the clear marker that Boris ain't cut out for any of this has to be this:

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    Come on down, Mr. Starmer, you don.

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    Jealous?


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    I’ve those jars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    The press are turning on Bojo. You love to see it. They’re reporting he missed 5 Cobra meetings for ‘personal reasons’.
    This was common knowledge. He took a holiday for like 2 months didn't he?

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    Vietnam

    Late 90's early 00's Brisbane high schools were chokkas full of 1st Generation Vietnamese Australian.
    Last edited by Queenslander; 19-04-2020 at 07:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    The international community largely ignoring Vietnam's success is bizarre. The perception seems to be... Vietnam is like China, therefore it's figures are completely made up. The reality is whilst they may be a few cases not being recorded, it's impossible to hide hundreds or thousands of deaths in a country that is so online and eager to screw over its own government.
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    That's what having a one-party state does for you. Soz la.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    The Americans have never been the good guys in their entire history.
    Maybe when they were kicking the Brits out.

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    I was going to say that earlier (with a Mel photo obvs) but it was too predictable

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    It's hard to say if it was the right move though. Kicking us out makes you America, letting us stay makes you Hong Kong.

    Then there's India...

    Anyway, the rule of thumb seems to be that as long as you weren't colonised by the Belgians, you'll probably be alright in the long run.

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    The one small problem with the idea that Boris Johnson not chairing some meetings has caused thousands of people to die is that it assumes that Boris Johnson's chairing of meetings is perhaps the most powerful force for good in all of global public health.

    Still, any chance for twitter blue ticks to tell us all how ANGRY they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I think you misunderstand her very much. Can be forgiven as these days she is just popularly used as a convenient Hitler-devil figure for lazy lefties rather than the nuanced historical leader she (and Blair, and all the others) was.

    You have to remember in those days the Cold War was on and the Americans were the good guys. It's not like when we grew up and they spent enough time in sole command for the backlash to develop. But good old Tony stuck with his stars and stripes boys in 2003, to much popular acclaim, and the rest is history.
    I misunderstand zero, and Hitler who you've mentioned was also a nuanced historical figure, it just so happens that his range went from walks in the park to having a small thirst racism, murder and trying to take over the world. Thatcher is judged by her actions, and whilst yes she did no doubt also enjoyed walks in the park, you don't get to throw Blair under the bus for touching up Bush in a golf cart, whilst defending Thatcher for giving Reagan the reach around, in the same post, no matter how much nuance (read: Tory defending gymnastics) you apply.

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    I would rather they waited until it was all over before finding out what should have been done earlier or whatever but then a tiny part of me is still sympathetic to the fact that no one really had a clue early doors but then it still seems to be the case now which is where the sympathy kind of runs out.

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    She didn't blindly follow Reagan into an illegal war (not my words, the words of Jeremy Corbyn).

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